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Title: H.M.S.Traveller
Post by: Smelly Kelly on Sunday 25 November 07 09:15 GMT (UK)
Has anyone any information on the T Class submarine  HMS Traveller. She was sunk in the Bay of Taranto off southern Italy on the 12th December 1941. I believe that all hands were lost, including my Uncle Eric Newbury P/SSX 19851 Leading Seaman.
I have found his name on the Naval Memorial on Portsmouth, and would like to find out more. :'(
Title: Re: H.M.S.Traveller
Post by: pete edwards on Sunday 25 November 07 09:37 GMT (UK)
Hi Smelly Kelly :)

Found this site that might intrest you

www.submariners.co.uk/Dits/OTD/index.php?m=1&d=27 - 12k

you can find the crew list on there

Pete :)
Title: Re: H.M.S.Traveller
Post by: IMBER on Sunday 25 November 07 09:50 GMT (UK)
Hi

I don't have any information I'm afraid, but just a couple of queries. Traveller was sunk in 1942, not 1941. You mention your uncle was on the Memorial at Plymouth.  I take this to be the CWGC's Plymouth Naval Memorial?  I cannot see his name listed there.
Title: Re: H.M.S.Traveller
Post by: Smelly Kelly on Sunday 25 November 07 09:55 GMT (UK)
Hi there, many thanks for your reply, and correcton of the demise of the Traveller.
My Uncle Eric is o the Portsmouth Naval Memorial Panel 63 Column 1.
Strange thing, have checked with the Submariners Association and seen the crew names whenshe was lost. His name is not mentioned there, how come I wonder?
Any clues? Smelly
Title: Re: H.M.S.Traveller
Post by: IMBER on Sunday 25 November 07 09:57 GMT (UK)
Hi

Sorry, I meant Portsmouth:

Name: NEWBERY, ERIC
Initials: E
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Leading Seaman
Regiment/Service: Royal Navy
Unit Text: H.M. Submarine Traveller
Date of Death: 12/12/1942
Service No: P/SSX 19851
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 63, Column 1.
Memorial: PORTSMOUTH NAVAL MEMORIAL
Title: Re: H.M.S.Traveller
Post by: Smelly Kelly on Sunday 25 November 07 10:05 GMT (UK)
many thanks for that info. Curious fact has just emerged. Have checked with the Submariners Association, Roll of Honour for the crew on the Traveller when she sank, My Uncle erics name does not appear though, very strange, any ideas why? Smelly
Title: Re: H.M.S.Traveller
Post by: IMBER on Sunday 25 November 07 10:53 GMT (UK)
I note that you give a different spelling of the surname than appears on the CWGC site.  Do you know which is correct? I wonder whether any confusion arose there? If CWGC have it wrongly then they will correct it if you can prove the correct spelling.  I would also try to have the name added to the database you mention.
Title: Re: H.M.S.Traveller
Post by: Smelly Kelly on Sunday 25 November 07 12:32 GMT (UK)
Hi again Imber, thanks for message. I had great difficulty tracing my Uncle Eric, because no one knew the correct spelling of his name. I have found his wedding certificate to my Aunt and the correct spelling is Newbery, again my mistake. This is the first time I have used this site, only joined this morning, bear with me!

I can't think of any reason why his name is on the Portsmouth memorial with the date correct etc, and his name is not on the Roll of Honour in the records. Very strange. Cheers Smelly
Title: Re: H.M.S.Traveller
Post by: ev on Sunday 25 November 07 12:49 GMT (UK)
hi

there is a plaque portsmouth dockyard
in the collonade outside the naval museum shop
"this plaque is presented to hms traveller to commemorate her
 adoption by the citizens of leyton during warship week
 21 to 28 may 1942"

ev
Title: Re: H.M.S.Traveller
Post by: Dave Francis on Sunday 25 November 07 12:49 GMT (UK)
The Times, Monday, Jan 25, 1943; pg. 4; Issue 49452; col D
"British Submarine Lost
The Board of Admiralty regrets to announce that H. M. submarine Traveller (Lieutenant-Commander D. St Clair-Ford, R.N.) is overdue and must be presumed lost. The next-of-kin have been informed."

The Times, Saturday, Aug 28, 1943; pg. 8; Issue 49636; col D
"The Roll of Honour
HMS Traveller
The Board of Admiralty regrets to announce the following casualties sustained in H. M. submarine Traveller, the loss of which has already been announced. Next-of-kin have been notified:'
[list of casualties including..]
Ratings
Missing Presumed Killed
...
Newbery E., Ldg. Smn."

The Times, Monday, Jan 03, 1944; pg. 15; Issue 49743; col C
"A Diary of the Year
...
January 24 Loss of H. M. submarine Traveller announced."

Title: Re: H.M.S.Traveller
Post by: Smelly Kelly on Sunday 25 November 07 12:57 GMT (UK)
Hi EV, thanks for that information. I never knew about such a plaque, sadly, not long before the ship's demise. Nice doggy picture, I like doggies too! Cheers Smelly

there is a plaque portsmouth dockyard
in the collonade outside the naval museum shop
"this plaque is presented to hms traveller to commemorate her
 adoption by the citizens of leyton during warship week
 21 to 28 may 1942"

ev
Title: Re: H.M.S.Traveller
Post by: Smelly Kelly on Sunday 25 November 07 12:59 GMT (UK)
Many thanks for the info on the plaque, never knew it existed. Nice picture of Tia, ike doggies too, cheers Smelly
Title: Re: H.M.S.Traveller
Post by: Smelly Kelly on Sunday 25 November 07 13:01 GMT (UK)
Thanks for that valuable snippet of information. Still strange why his name is not on the Roll of Honour,crew members when she was lost. Thanks again Smelly















The Times, Monday, Jan 25, 1943; pg. 4; Issue 49452; col D
"British Submarine Lost
The Board of Admiralty regrets to announce that H. M. submarine Traveller (Lieutenant-Commander D. St Clair-Ford, R.N.) is overdue and must be presumed lost. The next-of-kin have been informed."

The Times, Saturday, Aug 28, 1943; pg. 8; Issue 49636; col D
"The Roll of Honour
HMS Traveller
The Board of Admiralty regrets to announce the following casualties sustained in H. M. submarine Traveller, the loss of which has already been announced. Next-of-kin have been notified:'
[list of casualties including..]
Ratings
Missing Presumed Killed
...
Newbery E., Ldg. Smn."

The Times, Monday, Jan 03, 1944; pg. 15; Issue 49743; col C
"A Diary of the Year
...
January 24 Loss of H. M. submarine Traveller announced."