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				Hello,
I am looking for the death of Margaret Ann McGowan she was born 1868,Canada or the death of her husband James Cain he was b.abt 1857.
I have the 1910,1920 and the 1930 census for St Clair,Michigan.
or any information on their children
1/ Caroline Elizabeth Cain b.1888,Canada
2/ Robert James Cain b.1889,Canada.
3/Albert Dickson Cain b.1891 Canada
5/Charles Leonard Cain b.1893,Canada
6/ Catherine Maria Cain b.1896,Canada she married a Earle Conline
7/Margaret Ellen Cain b.1898,Canada 
8/Walter Lewis Cain b.1905.
Also Margaret Ann McGowan brother
his name is
John McGowan b.abt 1863 Canada I have him on the 1900 census for Wayne,Michigan and his wife Ida? that is all l have on him.
So any thing will do on this family.
Thank you to any one that helps.
			 
			
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				mccubbin,
1910 Detroit, Ward 9, Wayne Co.,  Michigan    Pollard Street
John M McGowen   [John M McBowen]  Age 49  b. abt 1861  Canada    Father's/Mother's Birth Place: Scotland   Married  19 Years  Year of Immigration: 1887   Naturalized  Occupation:  Moulder in Foundry
 
wife  Julia McGowen age 42   b. in Ireland  Parents:  Ireland   Married 19 years  1 child born/living  Immigration Year: 1883 
Dau   Isabelle McGowen 17  b. in Michigan
lissa
 
			 
			
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				1920 Detroit Ward 9 Wayne Michigan  Pollard Street
John McGowen  in census as John McGunn     Age: 54 years  
Estimated birth year: abt 1866    Birthplace: Canada   Father & Mother's Birth Place: Scotland    Home Rented   Year of Immigration: 1881  Naturalized: 1892    Able to read/write   Occupation:  Moulder in Foundry
Wife  Julia McGunn 53   No Occupation
Dau   Isabel McGunn 26   No Occupation
Elinor Frazer 17  Roomer  b. in Michigan  M/F: Michigan Stenographer in an Office
 
			 
			
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				1930 Detroit, Wayne Co., Michigan   Lilac Avenue
John B MacGowan     Age: 69   b.  abt 1861  Widower  Birthplace: Canada   Relation to Head of House: Father-in-law     Occupation: None   43 Yrs. in US  Immigration Year:  1871 Naturalized 
Head of House  Keith E Fraser 36  b. in Michigan  F:  Canada/English   M:  Ohio  Age when Married:  26  Value of Home:  $20,000  Occupation:  Sales Mgr. Graphite Co. 
Wife  Belle M Fraser  36  b. Michigan  F:  Canada/English  M:  Irish Free State   Age when Married:  26   
Son Keith E Fraser 8  MI
Dau Mary L Fraser 7   MI
Son John G Fraser 5   MI
Son William R Fraser 3 4/12   MI
Servant  Hattie A Cramer 19   b. MI  F/M:  Poland   Housekeeper
 
 
			 
			
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				Went back to 1900 Detroit Wayne, Michigan  
John McGowen age 40 b. 1858 in Canada with occupation of "Moulder" and immigration date of 1900 is shown w/ wife Ida  age 39  b. 1861 and 3 daughters,  
Louisa 16  
May  12
Jennie 10  
All b. in Canada.    
Indicates Ida was the mother of 4 children  and all are living.   
Ida & John married since age of 20.   
Ida was b. in Canada  and both parents from "York State"
 
So not sure if above John & Julia are your correct people at all ?? 
If Ida and Julia are the same person ??    
Isabelle would be about 7 in 1900 and could be the 4th child ??
IF Julia and Isabelle were a second family for John ??  
lissa
			 
			
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				Just in case you did not  already have this,  
Two Ontario Marriage records found 
Name: James Cain 
Spouse Name: Maggie Ann McGowan 
Marriage Date: 19 Oct 1886   
Strathroy, Ontario
and 
Name: James Cain 
Birth Place: Oxford Ont  
Age: 29  
Estimated birth year: abt 1857  
Father Name: John Cain 
Mother Name: Catherine Cain 
Spouse Name: Maggie Ann McGowan 
Spouse's Age: 19  
Spouse Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867  
Spouse Birth Place: Nf  
Spouse Father Name: Robert S McGowan 
Spouse Mother Name: Cauline Kennedy McGowan 
Marriage Date: 19 Oct 1886  Marriage Place: Middlesex  
Marriage County: Middlesex  
			 
			
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				U.S. SSDI     a long shot for one of James and Margaret's sons....unless birthdate was May 1st fits in ??
Name: Albert Cain 
SSN: 383-03-8879  
Last Residence: 48205  Detroit, Wayne, Michigan, United States of America 
Born: 1 May 1891  
Died: Dec 1969 
State (Year) SSN issued: Michigan 
Added:
Name: Albert Dickson Cain 
Date of Birth: 1 May 1891  Gender: Female  ????
Birth County: Oxford  
Father's name: James Cain 
Mother's name: Margaret Ann Mc Gawn 
I found most of the children's births in Oxford, Ontario  --   won't bother to repeat unless you don't have those records already......
			 
			
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				Name: Walter L Cain 
Birth Date: 3 Apr 1905 
Death Date: 6 Aug 1983 
Gender: Male  
Residence: Mount Clemens, Macomb, Michigan 
Place of Death: Mount Clemens, Macomb, Michigan 
			 
			
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				Hi LissaM,
Thank You for your help with the Cain/McGowan.
John McGowan that could be John's second wife Ida and Julia his first,but I really don't know,It is funny both the John's marriage with his parents being Scottish and coming from Wayne,Michigan.
James and Margaret son Albert Cain was born 1st May so that was him,then their other son Walter Cain that was his death as well,when he joined the army that was the address.
A big thank you for your help.
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				Just love these genealogy mysteries!!!!   
To possibly add some more uncertainties, found in Ontario marriage records 
Name: Thomas McGowen Junior  
Birth Place: Thornbury  
Age: 30    Estimated birth year: abt 1856  
Father Name: Thomas McGown 
Mother Name: Ellen McGown 
Spouse Name: Ida Little  
Spouse's Age: 21    Spouse Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865  
Spouse Birth Place: Leslie Quebec  
Spouse Father Name: Henry Little 
Spouse Mother Name: Mary Little 
Marriage Date: 5 May 1886 
Marriage Place: Parry Sound District  
Marriage County: Parry Sound  
                                                                     
Everything a little "off"  but thought I would put it out there anyway in case it somehow fits.
Looked for Louisa, May & Jennie  McGowen b. in Canada did not find them nor any children registered to either a Thomas or John McGowen in Ontario Births 1869-1909. 
sidebar, 
1910 Detroit Ward 11 Wayne Co., Michigan 
Isabel (Belle) McGowen Fraser husband Keith's family 
Keith E Fraser  Age: 16  Est birth year: abt 1894  Birthplace: Michigan  Single  Occ:  Clerk @ RR Co.
Father's name:  Earnest W   Age 36   Birth Place: Canada English  Occ:  Clerk @ Motor Co.
Mother's name: Augusta A    Age 36   Birth Place: Ohio  
son/bro Joseph B Fraser 9  
dau/sis  Rose S Fraser 7  
Frank Barnet {Bennett}  46  Boarder from England
 
Was looking to see if Elinor Frazer,  Roomer in 1920 w/ the McGowen's  was related to Isabel's future husband, Keith .   Not finding  connection.
AND if there were any naming patterns with  Belle/Isabela & Keith's children which might connect  Belle/Isabela's mother as either Julia or Ida.  
Curiously,  in 1900,  Keith's father Earnest Fraser seems to be called "Garnet"  and the family is found in Milwaukee, WI
Garnet W Fraser  Age: 26   Est birth year: abt 1874  Birthplace: Canada English  Head-of-House
Spouse's name: Augusta   Married for 7 years
Mother's name: Margaret 
Occupation:  Clerk for Railroad Freight
Immigration Year: 1890  
wife Augusta Fraser 27  b. Ohio  has had 4 children/2 are living
son  Keith Fraser 6  
dau  Adelaide Fraser 3  
Mother Margaret Fraser 70  b. in Scotland  Married for 50 years   13 children/8 living  Immigration Year:  1884  in US for 15 Years
Not finding Keith and family in 1920.
lissa
 
			 
			
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				Back to your original queries,  don't know if you have been to this site already
http://www.rootsweb.com/~mistclai/
Seems to be quite alot of transcribed, indexed information for St. Claire Co..  You will need the "Search" function on your browser to cull through !!!
As I was searching cemeteries, there is a Margaret A and James Cain  buried in Lakeside Cemetery, Section H.  The birth dates seem off but often the children or whoever reports the information are not sure of their parent's exact birth years  or could be a transcription error, but might be worth further investigation.
http://www.rootsweb.com/~mistclai/cemeteries/aallcems/ccems.txt
lissa
			 
			
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				http://resources.rootsweb.com/USA/MI/StClair/
Go to the line w/   "All Registered Michigan Deaths 1868-1974"   Enter "Cain"  
James Cain              1927 St. Clair Co.        Was your James in the 1930 census???
Margaret Ann Cain  1944 St. Clair Co.
No ages given however --  darn!
			 
			
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				Name: McGowen, Louisa
Vol. or Book/Page: 5 / 19 - St. Clair Co. MI
Source: Index of Deaths 1890-1932
Death Date: 1913
Place of Death: St. Clair Co. MI
Possibly dau of  John & Ida McGowen ???
Again, no age given to help verify.  
In case you have not had the opportunity to check a county map for Michigan,  Wayne Co. (Detroit) and St. Clair Co.  do not touch but they are a very short distance apart so would have been a short distance for the families to travel.
lissa
			 
			
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				Hi Lissa,
Thank you this is really great information that you are sending me.
The 1930 Census.
Margret Cain/McGowan age 61 W
Robert Cain son W age 40 W
Robert McGowan brother 72 S
Port Huron, St Clair Michigan.
I have had a look on the Web Sites,a lot of Cain's in St Clair.
 Thank You once again.
    McCubbin
			 
			
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				Hi mccubbin,
So the James Cain who dies in 1927 St Clair is a possible for Margaret Ann's husband.
Someone locally in St. Clair Co. maybe able to make the verifications or check the Lakeside cemetery records for you.
If any of the pieces fit and you need more info,  let us know --  will try to fill any blanks.
Glad to have been helpful  ;D
			 
			
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				Greetings;
I am a great grandson of Margaret Anne McGowan. I live in Ontario Canada.
If anyone wishes information about her or any other Cains that I can provide, feel free to contact me at...
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				Hello
my name is Karen and I have Cains in my family tree, I have Hugh Cain who apparently is Irish and his wife Mary Callaghan, there dau Ann Cain married Wilfred Hutchins and resided in Loring Ontario Parry Sound District. Now I have no idea on Hugh's parentage or siblings. Hugh was born 1840 Ontairo. any connection to any of your Cains.
			 
			
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Hello
my name is Karen and I have Cains in my family tree, I have Hugh Cain who apparently is Irish and his wife Mary Callaghan, there dau Ann Cain married Wilfred Hutchins and resided in Loring Ontario Parry Sound District. Now I have no idea on Hugh's parentage or siblings. Hugh was born 1840 Ontairo. any connection to any of your Cains.
As far as I can tell there is no close connection between us that I can find.