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Title: William Walter Roberts Fursman 1864
Post by: TreeOfNames on Friday 23 November 07 10:22 GMT (UK)
FURSMAN also known as FURZMAN AND FIRSMAN

William Walter Roberts Fursman im looking for his parents

Birth September 1863 FURSMAN William Walter Roberts Bridport Vol 5a Page 404

died 1958 was married to annie hussey 1885 bridport district

William i have on census 1881 Registration district: Bridport  Sub-registration district: Whitchurch Canonicorum  at his uncle Walters farm yard dairy along with sarah fursman his aunt  and edith pady ( not sure who she is yet)
Title: Re: William Walter Roberts Fursman 1864
Post by: suzard on Friday 23 November 07 10:37 GMT (UK)
Not sure what information you are requesting
but this looks like him in 1871
Morcombe
Whitchurch Canonicorum
William Roberts head W 77 Former gardener
Elizabeth Fursman neice U 40 Shopkeeper
William R Fursman Boarder 7 Scholar
Flora Fursman Boarder U 27(or37?) Domestic Servant
Joseph Fursman Boarder W 66 Ag lab

all b. Whitchurch Ca

RG10 2030 75 6

Looks like you will need to purchase the birth cert to find who his parents are???

Suz
Title: Re: William Walter Roberts Fursman 1864
Post by: TreeOfNames on Friday 23 November 07 10:45 GMT (UK)
gosh that was quick! i did not expect a reply so soon, thank you for the information.

regards Lisa ;D

Title: Re: William Walter Roberts Fursman 1864
Post by: suzard on Friday 23 November 07 11:04 GMT (UK)
Do you need any other census information??

Suz
Title: Re: William Walter Roberts Fursman 1864
Post by: suzard on Friday 23 November 07 11:17 GMT (UK)
looks like Elizabeth and Flora (from 1871 census) are the daughters of Joseph Fursman-maybe one of them is William's mother???

1861
Morcombe lake
Whitchurch Canonicorum
Joseph Furzman head M 56 land drainer
Roseniar wife 61 ag lab
Flora daughter 17 Ag lab
all b Whitchurch can.
RG9 1369 79 7

1841
Ruall
Whitchurch canonicorum
Joseph Fursman 35 ag lab
Rose 40
Walter 13
Elizabeth 12
Isabella 8
Fanny 5
hannah 1
HO107 282 16 6

Suz
Title: Re: William Walter Roberts Fursman 1864
Post by: TreeOfNames on Friday 23 November 07 11:25 GMT (UK)
maybe elizabeth as that name is still in the family and i noticed the same names keep popping up, thank you for all your help  ;D
Title: Re: William Walter Roberts Fursman 1864
Post by: allibaker on Friday 23 November 07 18:47 GMT (UK)
william walter roberts furzman bapt 30th aug 1863 whitchurch canconicorum dorset.mothers name elizabeth furzman no father listed
regards
alli
Title: Re: William Walter Roberts Fursman 1864
Post by: allibaker on Friday 23 November 07 18:51 GMT (UK)
these children all baptised whitchurch canconicorum dorset to parents joseph furzman and rose-
walter bapt 28th sept 1828
elizabeth bapt 31st july 1829
elizabeth bapt 27th sept 1835
john roberts bapt 27th sept 1835
frances bapt 25th jan 1837
hope these help?
regards
alli
Title: Re: William Walter Roberts Fursman 1864
Post by: allibaker on Friday 23 November 07 19:14 GMT (UK)
i see this marriage also-
joseph furzman maried susannah dix roberts 22nd nov 1827
regards
alli
Title: Re: William Walter Roberts Fursman 1864
Post by: allibaker on Friday 23 November 07 19:19 GMT (UK)
i see this burial also -
john furzman aged 1yr buried 6th dec 1835 whitchurch canconicorum st canida and holy cross
regards
alli
Title: Re: William Walter Roberts Fursman 1864
Post by: TreeOfNames on Saturday 24 November 07 11:14 GMT (UK)
Hi
Thankyou for all the information, im now trying to go through everything ive received in the last couple of days so i can add it to my tree.

Is there a way of finding out via further details on the marriage of William Walter Roberts Fursmans to Annie Hussey final quarter of 1885 in the district of BRIDPORT  GRO VOL 5a Page 805

Would that possible give signatures of his parent or parents? As you listed elizabeth fursman as mother father unknown?

 Is there anywhere online i could find this information, even though ive been looking into the tree for a long time im still learning bit by bit and muddling along with it all.

regards Lisa
Title: Re: William Walter Roberts Fursman 1864
Post by: blacklamb on Thursday 17 February 11 02:20 GMT (UK)
Have just joined this web page and see that you have been researching a family member of mine - Joseph and Rose Fursman and their family. I looked at the last date and it was 2007. Wonder if you are still looking for the Fursman family?
Title: Re: William Walter Roberts Fursman 1864
Post by: dcal on Saturday 07 January 12 23:27 GMT (UK)
I also have William Walter Roberts Fursman on my tree.  I see that Lisa has not logged in here since 2009 so she may have answered the questions she posted, but I may be able to help on one of them.

I am also looking for who was the father of William Walter Roberts Fursman.

Blacklamb - it is not that long since you logged in, are you still researching the Fursman family?
Title: Re: William Walter Roberts Fursman 1864
Post by: blacklamb on Sunday 08 January 12 09:20 GMT (UK)
I am still researching the Fursman family tree and would be very interested to hear if you can help. Thanks for replying to my post and look forward to hearing from you.
Title: Re: William Walter Roberts Fursman 1864
Post by: Richard Knott on Sunday 08 January 12 10:15 GMT (UK)
I am also looking for who was the father of William Walter Roberts Fursman.

Previous posts make it almost certain that William was illegitimate, so your best hope is to find a bastardy order naming the father.

Mother's often include the father's surname when baptising their child so, unless you know other reasons, 'Roberts' must be a possibility. In your case there are two middle names, so I might start my search looking fior a Walter Roberts, although I can't see any obvious candidiates in the 1861 census.

Richard
Title: Re: William Walter Roberts Fursman 1864
Post by: dcal on Sunday 08 January 12 10:31 GMT (UK)
Richard

Unfortunately not, Roberts is a surname on his mother's side of the family.
Title: Re: William Walter Roberts Fursman 1864
Post by: dcal on Sunday 08 January 12 10:35 GMT (UK)
Blacklamb

I'd like to private message you, but I can't seem to find out how to.  Suspect you have to make a number of posts before you can.
Title: Re: William Walter Roberts Fursman 1864
Post by: Richard Knott on Sunday 08 January 12 13:14 GMT (UK)
Sorry about the Roberts.

You only need to make three posts before you can send PMs, so you should be fine now.

Richard
Title: Re: William Walter Roberts Fursman 1864
Post by: TreeOfNames on Tuesday 14 February 12 17:48 GMT (UK)
Hi

Just to let everyone know i am still researching the tree a bit at a time...

Other names i have an interest in

Cary - hawkins - hussey/hussy - chadderblank or chaddarblank - morgan - hill - foxworthy - honeybun - sturmey

All from the Dorset and Devon areas
Title: Re: William Walter Roberts Fursman 1864
Post by: londonworker on Friday 11 May 12 01:15 BST (UK)
William Walter Roberts Fursman was my great grandfather dob 11/8/1863 son of Elizabeth born 1829 daughter of Joseph Fursman and Susannah Roberts (Rosina). Joseph was born in 1805 and died in 1871 and was married on 22/11/1827. Joseph was the son of Joseph Fursman and Sarah Moss who were married on 7/10/1802

My Aunt lives in Bridport and I think much of this information was gleaned from either tombstones or church or county records.

My sister has done much more research on our family and I have heard a story about one of our ancestors who went to live with an uncle(?) and got some girl pregnant but never married her and then later married someone else and gave the son of that marriage the same first name as the illegitimate son. Don't know if it is the same one as this William but might be.
Title: Re: William Walter Roberts Fursman 1864
Post by: Fursmanfamily on Tuesday 04 August 15 17:31 BST (UK)
Rosina had a brother William, I think your find he was the father to Elizabeths child William.