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Title: Where have they put Mottesbury Essex?
Post by: valentine on Friday 31 December 04 02:25 GMT (UK)
On the 1871 census I have a possible relative from Mottesbury Essex. Has anyone seen or heard of this place and where it is located? If it is a poor transcription is there a second best guess.
Happy New Year.
Valentine
Title: Re: Where have they put Mottesbury Essex?
Post by: Geoff of Devon on Friday 31 December 04 13:43 GMT (UK)
Hi Valentine,

I have looked at the Essex 1841, 1851 and 1861 regions of Essex and can find no reference to Mottesbury. Maybe it's a tiny village or parish, or it was the name of a house, or, as you suggested a mistranscription.

Good luck,

Geoff.
Title: Re: Where have they put Mottesbury Essex?
Post by: PaulineJ on Friday 31 December 04 15:00 GMT (UK)
Sincethe place does not seem to exist, put up the name, age, piece and folio refs and we can have a look at the original.

Pauline
Title: Re: Where have they put Mottesbury Essex?
Post by: Frances on Friday 31 December 04 20:20 GMT (UK)
Hi Valentine,

Although I was born and have always lived in Essex I have never heard of Mottesbury either. I have looked in an older book on Essex and the only place which would be a very long shot but starts with an 'M' and ends in 'bury' is Mashbury. Discribed as a little very lonely place with a small Norman church. It looks to be inear Chignall.

Good Luck, Frances
Title: Re: Where have they put Mottesbury Essex?
Post by: Linda on Friday 31 December 04 23:51 GMT (UK)
Could it be Buttsbury? (Chelmsford Reg.District)

Linda
Title: Re: Mottesbury Sleuths+1871 Census
Post by: valentine on Saturday 01 January 05 20:45 GMT (UK)
Many thanks to everyone for your hints and checks re. Mottesbury. I have no reference numbers but there was a WILLIAM FARROW on the 1871 census. He was listed as a Single Mariner lodging with the family LAYZELL of Kings Head, High Street, New Shoreham. If someone could kindly verify the birthplace I would be grateful. I am 'hoping' it is BUTTSBURY not MOTTESBURY as that would tie in with William's 1891 census birthplace of INGATESTONE. Have I got my geography correct guys? or am I trying to make things too neat.
The full name is William Richard TAYLOR FARROW.
Thanks and good luck.
Valentine
Title: Re: Where have they put Mottesbury Essex?
Post by: PaulineJ on Saturday 01 January 05 21:07 GMT (UK)
Well I found the Image, and I think it should read Stokesbury (another Place I haven't heard of)

It certainly isn't a 'M' to start , neither is it a 'B'

RG10/1089 Folio 58  Page 17



Pauline



Title: Re: Where have they put Mottesbury Essex?
Post by: hlbradd on Monday 24 January 05 13:39 GMT (UK)
Thought it might be Tollesbury (which is Essex, near Maldon).  But then I saw image - so not so sure now.
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H x
Title: Re: Where have they put Mottesbury Essex?
Post by: Arquebus on Tuesday 25 January 05 13:51 GMT (UK)
Well, I'm an Essex boy and I reckon it is a badly spelled Tollesbury...which makes sense due to the badly spelled 'Brightlandsea' which should of course be Brightlingsea just along the water from Tollesbury.

Alan
Title: Re: Where have they put Mottesbury Essex?
Post by: Bryant on Tuesday 25 January 05 19:19 GMT (UK)
I thought it might be a bad spelling of Shoebury....

but the more I look.....

it definitely starts Sto....and does appear to end...... bury

STO???BURY......it is probably S Tolesbury as in South Tollesbury
he just said Essex in 1881 ...is that correct ?

Bryant
Title: Re: Where have they put Mottesbury Essex?
Post by: Arquebus on Tuesday 25 January 05 20:28 GMT (UK)
Having lived fairly near Tollesbury for years I have never heard of it having a 'South' area......I just think it is a 'T' formed in the common way it was in those days (a bit like a 'J' with a top bar) which has degenerated with lazy handwriting.

Al.
Title: Re: Where have they put Mottesbury Essex?
Post by: Bryant on Tuesday 25 January 05 20:41 GMT (UK)
William was a mariner Al...everywhere has a nth & sth!

I think we all agree that Tollesbury hasn't a south...just trying to make sense of a place that definitely starts with S  as the place immediately above which is Southwick
Title: Re: Where have they put Mottesbury Essex?
Post by: Arquebus on Tuesday 25 January 05 23:58 GMT (UK)
Yes, Pardon me, I see what you mean....trouble is the place at the bottom must have moved from Wiltshire to Essex.....Salisbury?

Is Southwick in Essex?
Title: Re: Where have they put Mottesbury Essex?
Post by: hlbradd on Wednesday 26 January 05 07:56 GMT (UK)
But if he's lodging with them in Shoreham - surely that says Sussex ?  So isn't this a census return from Sussex? 
Wouldn't that be where Southwick is - don't know of one in Essex (although we do have a Wickford)

Actually I think the third Mariner looks like he could be Tolisbury (Tollesbury)  or Salisbury - maybe enumerator wasn't too hot on his counties !

Do you have his age on the 1871 to work out his birth year?  Maybe we could try other options?

H
Title: Re: Where have they put Mottesbury Essex?
Post by: Harcus on Sunday 30 January 05 03:02 GMT (UK)
You might want to write to the following link, with a copy of the image, to see if they can help you.

http://www.essex.ac.uk/history/esah/essexplacenames

Good luck.

Harcus.
Title: Re: Where have they put Mottesbury Essex?
Post by: llulwyn on Friday 11 February 05 12:49 GMT (UK)
Hi....
I am an Essex boy....
Looking for Mottesbury...never heard of it I am sorry to say....though there are plenty of other burys.....
However, you mention New Shoreham...(Shoreham)
This is in SUSSEX not Essex....are you looking in the right county...
Look at www.glaucus.org.uk...then history for New Shoreham...it places it on the English channel....
also shows a map of it.....

Hope this helps
Kevin