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Title: Royal Irish Constabulary 1816-1921
Post by: elaine447 on Tuesday 20 November 07 11:10 GMT (UK)
a friend who had sub to Ancestry found this for me
but they are not renewing
wondered if someone else could help me
I have found a Solomon Given who enlisted in 1875 aged 18
the birthplace is noted as Fermanagh is it possible to find any other info on him
I am not sure if he is mine but maybe another branch of my family
any help would be appreciated
I already have post on Solomon Given but dont know how to link them
Elaine
Title: Re: Royal Irish Constabulary 1816-1921
Post by: leprechaun on Saturday 24 November 07 11:46 GMT (UK)
 Hello Elaine,I would say yes you can get his record. But it would cost you and you do not know if he his your's. :) Lep
Title: Re: Royal Irish Constabulary 1816-1921
Post by: elaine447 on Saturday 24 November 07 12:13 GMT (UK)
Thanks Leprechaun
I have been trying to find out as much as possible
about him before I decided to buy the record
I dont think he is directly mine
maybe the son of one of my ancestors brothers
and thought it might give me a place name for them
Elaine
Title: Re: Royal Irish Constabulary 1816-1921
Post by: Christopher on Saturday 24 November 07 12:29 GMT (UK)
a friend who had sub to Ancestry found this for me
but they are not renewing
wondered if someone else could help me
I have found a Solomon Given who enlisted in 1875 aged 18
the birthplace is noted as Fermanagh is it possible to find any other info on him
I am not sure if he is mine but maybe another branch of my family
any help would be appreciated
I already have post on Solomon Given but dont know how to link them
Elaine

Hi Elaine,

The Solomon Given post ...  Where else can I look?  (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,227322.msg1204142.html#msg1204142) on the Renfrewshire board is now linked to this one.

Christopher
Title: Re: Royal Irish Constabulary 1816-1921
Post by: elaine447 on Saturday 24 November 07 12:35 GMT (UK)
Thanks Christopher
I have tried to do it myself (hopeless)
Elaine
Title: Re: Royal Irish Constabulary 1816-1921
Post by: Christopher on Saturday 24 November 07 12:37 GMT (UK)
Thanks Christopher
I have tried to do it myself (hopeless)
Elaine

Hi Elaine,
Would you like a series of messages telling you how to do it ???

Christopher
Title: Re: Royal Irish Constabulary 1816-1921
Post by: elaine447 on Saturday 24 November 07 12:40 GMT (UK)
Yes please Christopher
I really am hopeless
Elaine
Title: Re: Royal Irish Constabulary 1816-1921
Post by: Christopher on Saturday 24 November 07 12:55 GMT (UK)
Yes please Christopher
I really am hopeless
Elaine

Hi Elaine, 

 Click here  (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=269898.new#new) and see "How to link threads" on the Technical Help board.

Christopher
Title: Re: Royal Irish Constabulary 1816-1921
Post by: leprechaun on Saturday 24 November 07 14:07 GMT (UK)
 Hi Elaine. This is what the record should give you.
SErvice number and Full name.
Age when appointed.
Height in feet and Inches
Native County
Previous Trade
Dates of Discharge, dissmissed,resignation or Death
Emigration places are sometimes noted
Lengh of servive and amount of pension
Name of person recommending ,counties served ,includes dates.
Dates of promotion or reductions in Rank.
Rewards,punishment,and mark of distinction.
Religion,Marital Status and native place of wife.
Only single men could join the R.I.C. but they could marry,with permission of
superiors after 7yrs.
 Maybe this information will help you make your mind up. Lep :)
Title: Re: Royal Irish Constabulary 1816-1921
Post by: elaine447 on Saturday 24 November 07 14:24 GMT (UK)
Thanks Leprechaun
I think it might be worth the money
even if it is just to eliminate him from my list
Elaine
Title: Re: Royal Irish Constabulary 1816-1921
Post by: leprechaun on Saturday 24 November 07 15:21 GMT (UK)
 Ok Elaine. Have sent you a message. Lep :)
Title: Re: Royal Irish Constabulary 1816-1921
Post by: rogers2 on Monday 26 November 07 02:23 GMT (UK)
Hi there
hoping someone can help I am searching for my gg grandfather.
James George Rogers
based in Wexford when his son George Rogers was born on 8th feb 1836.
His place of birth is not known nor marriage date to Margaret Kerr..poss 1830-1833

wife Margeret Kerr born 1808 poss wexford.
According to family "history" he was in the Royal Irish Constabulary......and was killed in the riots in Dublin abt 1840...( shot by rioters)

There was no further details to support this and I searched ancestry's records and did not find his name..
His decendants still retained his sword till after the death of his wife in 1878.
Margaret kerr remarried abt 1844 in Dublin

They migrated to Australia in 1848

hoping you can help clear up this family mystery
Title: Re: Royal Irish Constabulary 1816-1921
Post by: elaine447 on Monday 26 November 07 10:31 GMT (UK)
Hi Rogers2
I can't help you sorry
maybe if you repost this as a new topic
someone will be able to help there are a lot of knowledgable people
on here and as you said he was killed in the riots
there may be someone who has researched this part of the Irish History
Good Luck
Elaine
Title: Re: Royal Irish Constabulary 1816-1921
Post by: leprechaun on Tuesday 27 November 07 18:44 GMT (UK)
  Have you seen this site.www.esatclear.ie/~ric   
Title: Re: Royal Irish Constabulary 1816-1921
Post by: elaine447 on Tuesday 27 November 07 19:38 GMT (UK)
Thanks Leprechaun
I am going to check it out
will let you know how I get on
btw my email didn't bounce back this time thanks
Elaine
Title: Re: Royal Irish Constabulary 1816-1921
Post by: leprechaun on Tuesday 27 November 07 21:02 GMT (UK)
 ;D ;D Thanks be to god Elaine. ;D
Title: Re: Royal Irish Constabulary 1816-1921
Post by: elaine447 on Tuesday 27 November 07 21:13 GMT (UK)
it would be great if he would come on rootschat  :o ;D
Elaine
Title: Re: Royal Irish Constabulary 1816-1921
Post by: leprechaun on Tuesday 27 November 07 21:55 GMT (UK)
 Elaine ,we would have all the answer's then. ;D
Title: Re: Royal Irish Constabulary 1816-1921
Post by: elaine447 on Tuesday 27 November 07 22:06 GMT (UK)
true and no fun ;D
I just thought what would I do then
house work or watch telly :o 
Elaine
Title: Re: Royal Irish Constabulary 1816-1921
Post by: leprechaun on Tuesday 27 November 07 22:11 GMT (UK)
 Hi Elaine, In that case you may as well be dead ;D
Title: Re: Royal Irish Constabulary 1816-1921
Post by: leprechaun on Tuesday 27 November 07 22:15 GMT (UK)
 An early greeting to you Elaine in Irish.
 Nollaig Shona Dhuit.  ;)
Title: Re: Royal Irish Constabulary 1816-1921
Post by: Christopher on Saturday 08 December 07 16:39 GMT (UK)
Hi leprechaun,

Several of the links on the link you provided about the RIC bear this message ... "The page cannot be found. The page you are looking for might have been removed, had its name changed, or is temporarily unavailable."

Christopher
Title: Re: Royal Irish Constabulary 1816-1921
Post by: leprechaun on Saturday 08 December 07 19:45 GMT (UK)
 Hi Christopher, I am sure it must be this one you mean.www.esatclear.ie/~ric/

Have just put it up on Google with no Problem. Lep :)
Title: Re: Royal Irish Constabulary 1816-1921
Post by: Christopher on Saturday 08 December 07 20:33 GMT (UK)
Hi Christopher, I am sure it must be this one you mean.www.esatclear.ie/~ric/

Have just put it up on Google with no Problem. Lep :)

It's the RIC Alphabetical List section in the link that's not working.
Title: Re: Royal Irish Constabulary 1816-1921
Post by: leprechaun on Saturday 08 December 07 21:59 GMT (UK)
 Hi Christopher, I have just e-mailed them. Hopefully they will put it right.
                                  Thankyou. :) Lep
Title: Re: Royal Irish Constabulary 1816-1921
Post by: leprechaun on Sunday 09 December 07 15:32 GMT (UK)
 Hi Christopher,I did get an e-mail back from RIC. They said yes that page is down.
   And from what they say, I do not think the page will be put back.
[The Alphabetical List] I think it is now done this way for people to e-mail them.
     IT is sad but nothing we can do. :(
Title: Re: Royal Irish Constabulary 1816-1921
Post by: Christopher on Sunday 09 December 07 15:40 GMT (UK)
Not to worry, leprechaun.

Now that the Alphabetical List is no longer online the Four Courts Press should sell more
of Jim Herlihy's great books about the Officers and Men who were employed by the RIC. 
RootsChatters who can borrow these books from their local libraries can always answer queries that arise and others can visit the RIC Museum.

Christopher
Title: Re: Royal Irish Constabulary 1816-1921
Post by: leprechaun on Sunday 09 December 07 16:05 GMT (UK)
 Thats great Christopher,Thanks Lep :)
Title: Re: Royal Irish Constabulary 1816-1921
Post by: leprechaun on Sunday 09 December 07 18:43 GMT (UK)
 Hi Christopher.That RIC site is Jim Hertihy site. Lep
Title: Re: Royal Irish Constabulary 1816-1921
Post by: elaine447 on Tuesday 13 January 09 23:04 GMT (UK)
I just wanted to let everyone who helped me with this one know
I have eventually found this particular Solomon Given  8)
I decided to search SP for every Given marriage in all districts
and I found this  :)
Solomon Given 35 occ sergeant in the Royal Irish Constabulary married
Agnes Gourlay in Lanarkshire in 1892
his father is recorded as Matthew Given
retired Royal Irish Constabulary
some of the info on the cert links in with a few other certs I have for other family members
thank you to everyone for their help
13 months and it was under my nose all the time
Elaine
Title: Re: Royal Irish Constabulary 1816-1921
Post by: leprechaun on Wednesday 14 January 09 09:29 GMT (UK)
Well done Elaine. :)