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Title: help with 1901 census. very little to go on
Post by: kenandjulie on Monday 19 November 07 08:58 GMT (UK)
I am hoping someone out there can help. I am trying to trace  Evan Jones of Bargoed on the 1901 census, all I have is that his son William married Mabel Florence Butland Dec 1913.
A long shot I know, but I have great faith that someone on Rootschat can and will help.

Regards Ken
Title: Re: help with 1901 census. very little to go on
Post by: Cas (stallc) on Monday 19 November 07 09:16 GMT (UK)
Do you know how old Will was when he married? Do you have marriage cert to post occ. for Evan?

There are 2 families in Gelligaer area in 1901 with son William, age 5, father Evan

Cas
Title: Re: help with 1901 census. very little to go on
Post by: down-under on Monday 19 November 07 09:19 GMT (UK)
???


1901 RG13/5073 folio 68 page 29 St John Glamorgan reg district Swansea


67 Neath Road
Caroline Jones age 74 widow Bargoed
Minnie dau age 40 Bargoed single
Evan Jones age 39 born Bargoed Glamorgan single Grocer own account
Thomas son age 36 single Chemist Drug  own account born Cardiff
Lottie Cockburn servant age 21 London

Pam
Title: Re: help with 1901 census. very little to go on
Post by: rw007a6097 on Monday 19 November 07 09:35 GMT (UK)
HELLO. William J. Jones enlisted in the Army in Dec 1915 his age was 22years 11 months I believe that his father's occupation was a miner.
Marriage certificate is on the way, but I do not have it at present.
I hope this helps

 Ken
Title: Re: help with 1901 census. very little to go on
Post by: Cas (stallc) on Monday 19 November 07 13:43 GMT (UK)
Hi Ken,

Cannot find William born Bargoed, but there is a William Jones age 5 father Evan, coal miner repairer, born/in Gelligaer.  The other is a William A Jones age 5, so it is not him.

Evan is born Merioneth, mother Charlotte Pontypridd.

The age is out, with enlistment record, do you want to wait for cert, may help with address?

Cas
Title: Re: help with 1901 census. very little to go on
Post by: kenandjulie on Wednesday 21 November 07 22:02 GMT (UK)
Hello Cas. I now have the marriage certificate or should I say a copy and it states that William John Jones was 21 on his marriage certificate  1913.

regards Ken
Title: Re: help with 1901 census. very little to go on
Post by: kenandjulie on Wednesday 21 November 07 22:03 GMT (UK)
Hello cas, forgot to say his address was 5 Francis Street. Bargoed

 Ken
Title: Re: help with 1901 census. very little to go on
Post by: Cas (stallc) on Wednesday 21 November 07 22:41 GMT (UK)
Ancestry is playing up tonight, will not let me narrow search  ??? by area or parent name

Don't know if it's my comp or if this a prob with Ancestry in general at the mo.

The William Jones I found was five in 1901 with father Evan, as described in earlier post.  This was in Gelligaer.  Could not find another in the area, but perhaps they moved Bargoed area later.  If I cannot get Ancesrty to behave, perhaps another rootschatter with help. 

Will look again tmw, if no one has posted,

Sorry Ken, off to see if anyone else has posted probs with Ancestry today, it was ok at teatime.

Cas
Title: Re: help with 1901 census. very little to go on
Post by: down-under on Thursday 22 November 07 01:52 GMT (UK)
With regards to the Evan Jones Coal miner repairer and son William in Gelligaer that Cas posted.

One of the listings for Gelligaer has this! Gelligaer civil parish, ecclesiastical parish Gelligaer,
Town Bargoed. Glamorganshire, Reg district Merthyr Tydfil. sub reg district Gelligaer


1901 Rg13/5021 folio 111 page 41 Gelligaer, Pontlottyn St Tyfaelog   Glamorgan reg district Merthyr Tydfil sub reg Gelligaer

8 Railway terrace

Evan Jones age 32 Coal miner repairer below speaks Welsh and English born Barmouth Merionethshire
Charlotte A Jones age 27 Pontypridd Glamorgan rest of family speak English
Mary J dau age 6 Gelligaer
William Jones son age 5 Gelligaer
Elizabeth dau age 3 Gelligaer


Pam
Title: Re: help with 1901 census. very little to go on
Post by: down-under on Thursday 22 November 07 02:18 GMT (UK)
1901 Rg13/5021 folio 166 page 12 Gelligaer,  St Tyfaelog,
Fochriw,  Glamorgan.   Reg district Merthyr Tydfil sub reg Gelligaer

24 Guest Street

Evan Jones age 37  coal miner Hewer born Brynglas Cardiganshire all the Jones speak Welsh and English
Mary I Jones wife age 32 born Fochriw
Esther M dau age 12 Fochriw
Evan Jno son age 7 Fochriw
William A son age 5 Fochriw
Martha  A dau age 2 Fochriw
Frances Rt Attwell boarder age 21 Coal miner hewer born Compton Dandon Somerset 

Pam
Title: Re: help with 1901 census. very little to go on
Post by: down-under on Thursday 22 November 07 03:20 GMT (UK)
I see that

Florence M Butland and William J Jones were married 1913

district Merthyr Tydfil  Breconshire/ Glamorgan/Mid Glamorgan


1901 RG13/5023 folio 55 page 42 Merthyr Tidfil, Glamorgan

2 bk of John Street

Jane Loveridge age 46 widow Gloucester all only speak english
William son age 19 Collier Gloucester
Henry L son age 16 Collier Cardiff

 Florence M Butland age 7 Grandaughter Cardiff
born  dec 1893 Cardiff  Monmouthshire/Glamorgan 11a 348

Pam