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Title: daniel's family bury,, can u help?
Post by: aliJB on Sunday 18 November 07 20:16 GMT (UK)

  ???    help needed to find the family if Frances Mary Hewitt (Barnes) born 1859 Atherstone Warwickshire married James Daniel's in 1863 bury Lancashire
can't find any info of their family can u help, THANKS ALIJB

Title: Re: daniel's family bury,, can u help?
Post by: Ecneps on Monday 19 November 07 01:30 GMT (UK)

Hi Alijb,

Can you check those dates please?  If she was born 1859 she couldn't have married in 1863, was that James Daniel's birth year? And is the (Barnes) another surname, did she marry twice?

I found this family in 1861:

RG9/2193 fol.20 p.33
James      Hewitt head widower 49 Ostler  Coventry
Elizabeth       "     dau    17   Witherby Leics
Frances Mary "       "        8   Atherstone Warwucks

Barbara

Title: Re: daniel's family bury,, can u help?
Post by: DS on Tuesday 20 November 07 20:09 GMT (UK)

Hi Barbara and AliJB

Here is the same family with the mother and a few more siblings.....

1851

Atherstone HO107/2064 Folio 217 Page 15

James Hewit (sic) Head M 39 Servant and Helper in Stables Warwick Coventry
Frances do Wife M 36 Derby Appleby
James do Son 11 Leicester Witherley
Sarah Ann do Daur 10 Leicester Witherley
Elizabeth do Daur 8 Leicester Witherley
George do Son 6 Leicester Witherley
John Henery do Son 3 Leicester Witherley
Charlotte do Daur 7mo Leicester Witherley

Witherley, Atherstone, Leicestershire

DS

Title: Re: daniel's family bury,, can u help?
Post by: DS on Tuesday 20 November 07 20:12 GMT (UK)

 


Possible Marriage Registration

1839 Atherstone JAS quarter 16 279

James Hewitt
Frances Wyat (sic)

DS

Title: Re: daniel's family bury,, can u help?
Post by: DS on Tuesday 20 November 07 20:24 GMT (UK)

Marriage confirmation (indirectly)...

1861

Uttoxeter RG9/1957 Folio 9 Page 12

James Botham Head M 40 Ag Lab Sudbury Derby
Sarah do Wife M 38 Appleby Derby
Charlotte Hewitt Niece 11 Atherstone Leicester

Aston in the Parish of Sudbury

Sarah Wyatt married James Botham in 1850 in Uttoxeter

DS ;)

Title: Re: daniel's family bury,, can u help?
Post by: mosiefish on Tuesday 20 November 07 20:31 GMT (UK)

Hi All,

I think you will find that there is a typo in the original post.  Frances Mary BARNES (Hewitt) married GEORGE Daniels in Bury in 1881 not James.  (I have just looked at previous postings and confirmed this with LancashireBMD)

Regards,
Mo

Title: Re: daniel's family bury,, can u help?
Post by: Ecneps on Tuesday 20 November 07 20:36 GMT (UK)

Which is why I was waiting for confirmation of dates etc from aliJB before going further, thanks very much for that, Mo

Barbara   :)

Title: Re: daniel's family bury,, can u help?
Post by: DS on Tuesday 20 November 07 20:38 GMT (UK)

 

This is a worry ???

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,268870.msg1532631.html#msg1532631

It suggests that George Daniels married a different Frances Barnes

DS

Title: Re: daniel's family bury,, can u help?
Post by: mosiefish on Tuesday 20 November 07 20:47 GMT (UK)

Hi,

Yep, I know its confusing.

George Barnes was Frances`s brother and married an Elizabeth.  Frances married George Daniels.

Mo

Title: Re: daniel's family bury,, can u help?
Post by: aliJB on Tuesday 20 November 07 22:45 GMT (UK)

sorry all been on sleep in at work x x

 mary barnes was born 1836 atherstone warwickshire
1*son george barnes atherstone 1856
1*daughter frances mary hewitt barnes atherstone 1859
not sure of their father waiting for cett
mary married james ludford bury lancashire
had 2 children mary j ludford
simeon ludford

on 1881 cencus lancashire bury,frances's name is ludford ? age 22 living with all the above family
 this is the same year she married george daniel's sorry (x x x x)
 (george 1* is in dudley)then moved to lancashire

any info would be great alijb  ;)

Title: Re: daniel's family bury,, can u help?
Post by: DS on Tuesday 20 November 07 23:48 GMT (UK)

Hello again.

Sorry I got called away.

OK. Is this the family that we are looking for ?

1861

Atherstone RG9/2193 Folios 68/69 Pages 14/15

George Barnes Head M 54 Bricklayer’s Lab Leicester Orton on the Hill
Mary do Wife M 57 Warwickshire Kingsbury
Mary do Daur U 25 Warwickshire Atherstone
Sarah do Daur U 14 Scholar Warwickshire Atherstone
George do Grandson 5 Scholar Warwickshire Atherstone
Frances do Granddaughter 2 Warwickshire Atherstone

Cotton Mill Yard, Atherstone

DS ;)

Title: Re: daniel's family bury,, can u help?
Post by: DS on Wednesday 21 November 07 00:23 GMT (UK)

1851 (Same family but no sign of Mary :-\)

Atherstone HO107/2064 Folio 327 Page 15

George Barnes Head M 45 Bricklayer’s Lab Leicestershire Orton on the Hill
Mary do Wife M 46 Charwoman Warwicksh. Nether Whitacre
Joseph do Son 8 Scholar Warwicksh. Atherstone
David do Son 6 Scholar Warwicksh. Atherstone
Sarah do Daur 4 Scholar Warwicksh. Atherstone
William do Son 7mo Warwicksh. Atherstone

Long Street, Atherstone

DS

Title: Re: daniel's family bury,, can u help?
Post by: DS on Wednesday 21 November 07 18:40 GMT (UK)

Going the other way....

1871

Atherstone RG10/3167 Folio 127 Page 15

George Barnes Head M 65 Bricklayer’s Labourer Leicestershire Orton on the Hill
Mary do Wife M 64 Char and Wash Woman Warwickshire Whitacre
Sarah Drakeley Daur M 24 Cotton Mule Spinner’s Wife Warwickshire Atherstone
George Barnes Grandson 15 Bricklayer’s Labourer Warwickshire Atherstone
George William Drakeley Grandson 11mo Warwickshire Nuneaton

15 Cotton Mill Yard, Atherstone

Marriage Registration

1868 Atherstone OND quarter 6d 509

Sarah Barnes
Edward Drakeley

DS

Title: Re: daniel's family bury,, can u help?
Post by: DS on Wednesday 21 November 07 19:44 GMT (UK)

...and back the other way again.....

1841

Atherstone HO107/1127/11 Folios 8/9 Pages 10/11

George Barns (sic) 35 Ag Lab
Mary do 35
George do 10
David do 5
Mary do 7
Joseph do 2weeks

Farmer’s Yard, Long Street, Atherstone

All, except George senior, born in County

DS ;)

Title: Re: daniel's family bury,, can u help?
Post by: DS on Wednesday 21 November 07 20:06 GMT (UK)

 
 

 
For more information about Frances Mary Hewitt Daniels (nee Barnes) and her husband and children after 1881, please refer to other thread.....

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,268870.msg1536952.html#msg1536952

DS :)

Title: Re: daniel's family bury,, can u help?
Post by: aliJB on Thursday 22 November 07 10:26 GMT (UK)

thank you all for your help great help
alijb x