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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Lancashire => Topic started by: aliJB on Sunday 18 November 07 20:05 GMT (UK)
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;D new branch to my tree Mary Barnes married James ludford in 1863 they had two children together Simeon ludford 1864 and Mary j ludford 1869 bury. Mary had two children before marriage as i can work out Frances Barnes born 1859 atherstone warwickshire who married George Daniel's bury,
George Barnes 1856 born atherstone warwickshire who married Elizabeth ?not sure were they married looking in to it ,looks like George and Elizabeth moved to bury to be close to his mother, they are on 1891 census as having three children George Barnes 1890 born Radcliffe lancashire
2 Mary Ann Barnes 1882 born Dudley
3 Sarah Ann Barnes 1887 born Dudley
any help on this family would love to hear from you alijb
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Hello
They apparently also had another son called Thomas.....
1871
Bury RG10/3958 Folio 59 Page 44
James Ludford Head M 30 Hatter Warwickshire Atherstone
Mary do Wife M 30 Warwickshire Atherstone
Frances M do Daur 13 Cotton Weaver Warwickshire Atherstone
Simon do Son 8 Scholar Warwickshire Atherstone
Thomas do Son 5 Scholar Lancashire Bury
Mary J do Daur 3 Lancashire Bury
42 Ray Street, Bury
DS
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AliJB
Did you already know about any of this ?
Death Registration
1886 Bury AMJ quarter 8c 318
James Ludford Aged 47
Marriage Registration
1887 Bury OND quarter 8c 733
Mary Ludford (nee Barnes)
John South
Death Registration
1890 Bury JFM quarter 8c 424
John South Aged 48
So in 1891 Mary was listed on the census as Mary South, Widow
....also....
Death Registration
1889 Bury JAS quarter 8c 308
Frances Mary H Daniels Aged 29
DS
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1891
Bury RG12/3140 Folio 156 Page 39
Mary South Head Widow 53 Felt Trimmer Warwickshire Atherstone
Harry do Son S 20 Cotton Operative Oxfordshire Banbury
Elizabeth do Daur S 15 Cotton Operative Oxfordshire Banbury
George Daniels Son in Law Widr 30 Paper Finisher Lancashire Manchester
Charlotte do Grand Daur 9 Scholar Lancashire Bury
Arthur do Grand Son 6 Scholar Lancashire Bury
James do Grand Son 4 Scholar Lancashire Bury
33 New Cedar Street, Bury
DS ;)
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1901
Bury RG13/3640 Folio 73 Page 47
Mary South Head Widow 64 Warwickshire Atherstone
John H do Son S 31 Stoker’s Labourer Banbury
Elizabeth A do Daur S 26 Cotton Weaver Banbury
Charlotte Daniels Grand Daur S 20 Cotton Weaver Lancashire Bury
Arthur do Grand Son 17 Cotton Spinner Tenter Lancashire Bury
James do Grand Son 15 Cotton Spinner Tenter Lancashire Bury
63 Pine Street, Bury
DS
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Regarding George ...
It looks like he moved back to Warwickshire....
1901
Atherstone RG13/2898 Folio 145 Page 5
George Barnes Head M Felt Hat Blocker ? Warwick Atherstone
Elizabeth do Wife M 45 Dudley Staffordshire
William do Son 7 Lancashire Bury
George do Son 7mo Leicestershire Ratcliffe Culey
Phoenix Yard, Atherstone
DS
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Regarding the three children shown in 1891....
Possible Death Registrations
1891 Bury OND quarter 8c 341
George Barnes Aged 1
1891 Bury OND quarter 8c 372
Sarah Ann Barnes Aged 5
Her birth year was shown as 1886 (not 1882) on the 1891 census
Possible Marriage Registration
1899 Atherstone OND quarter 6d 895
Mary Ann Barnes
Daniel Wilkes
1901
Dudley RG13/2745 Folio 106 Page 19
Daniel Wilkes Head M 28 Carter for Corporation Worc. Dudley
Mary A do Wife M 21 Worc. Dudley
Court 4 House 19 (Oxford Street), Dudley
Need to check certificates or registers to be sure, but these look like they could be them.
DS ;)
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AliJB
Between this and your other (connected) thread....
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,268875.msg1532653.html#msg1532653
....some of us found it very difficult to work out precisely what you wanted to know and what you already knew.
I hope that we have now managed to find something that is of interest and use to you. If you need any other census information can you please specify exactly which years you want (and, of course, which particular people you want them for ;D).
Best wishes
DS ;)
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thanks so much for your help x
thats why i was struggling as mary married again (fast movers)
you've been very help full thank you again
alison x