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Title: Need help with hotels/inns in Glam
Post by: Zenick on Saturday 17 November 07 21:37 GMT (UK)
Hi board,

A few of my relatives either owned or ran inn/hotels in various parts of Glam. I was wondering if anyone knows if thses still exist if i can get old pics of them if they dont and if anyone knows how to get further info on them, they are :-

Crwys Hotel - pretty sure this is still here it used to be on 34 Crwys Rd

Splotlands Inn -

Commercial Hotel - unsure of address

Also I would like to know if there was a hotel/inn on 63-65 Railway St in about 1890.

thanks for any help on this

Nick
 
Title: Re: Need help with hotels/inns in Glam
Post by: osprey on Saturday 17 November 07 21:49 GMT (UK)
Any chance of more info on the whereabouts of these hotels. I assume that's Crwys Road and Splottlands in Cardiff, but there will have been many a Commercial Hotel and even more Railway Streets.
 ::)
Title: Re: Need help with hotels/inns in Glam
Post by: Zenick on Saturday 17 November 07 22:13 GMT (UK)
Railway St, Roath

Commercial, Cowbridge

hope this helps
Title: Re: Need help with hotels/inns in Glam
Post by: Mike Thw on Sunday 09 December 07 20:06 GMT (UK)
There is a picture of the Commercial Hotel, Cowbridge on

http://www.wales-pictures.com/c-f/c-f.htm
Title: Re: Need help with hotels/inns in Glam
Post by: Grandma Chris on Sunday 09 December 07 20:51 GMT (UK)

Hello Zenick,

This site maybe of some help.

http://hometown.aol.com/PRode18115/pubs.htm

Christine.   :)




Title: Re: Need help with hotels/inns in Glam
Post by: wakokid on Friday 14 December 07 19:12 GMT (UK)
As far as I am aware, the pubs were/are owned by local Cardiff brewery S A Brain who I am sure would be able to help.

They are still based in Cardiff and run by a family member Christopher Brain
Title: Re: Need help with hotels/inns in Glam
Post by: splottboy on Sunday 16 December 07 13:14 GMT (UK)
railway street, local pub was the cardiff arms, a brains house, remember it as my Mum was a barmaid there during the war. we lived at 45 railway street, and the arms was only a short distance towards splott bridge, any help?.
Title: Re: Need help with hotels/inns in Glam
Post by: Marja on Tuesday 19 February 08 13:45 GMT (UK)
Hello Splottboy,
 Slaters Commercial Directory Cardiff 1880 has info on Taverns & Public Houses here are a list of a few I found:........................

BERTRAM HOTEL. Oliver Jones. Broadway. Splotlands
CRWYS.  Samuel Turner. 2 Crwys Road. Cathays
GREAT EASTERN. John Jones. John St. Splotlands
ROYAL OAK. James Lewis. Broadway. Splotlands
TREDEGAR HOTEL. Samuel Evans. Clifton St. Splotlands
WHITE LION. Stephen Lacey. John St. Splotlands
NEW DOCK TAVERN. Job Harper. Broadway. Splotlands
Hope this is of some help to you.
What surname are you looking for ?
Ex Splottite  Aussie Land
Title: Re: Need help with hotels/inns in Glam
Post by: splottboy on Wednesday 20 February 08 12:33 GMT (UK)
Hi Marja, that list of hotels/pubs rang some bells, especially the Tredegar , we moved from 45 railway street, back end of the war, to 3 pearl street, 2 doors up from the tredegar, all my relatives and family were splottites, have been in contact with cousin living in wales still, and there are others living in Oz, including my son, who emigrated in 1991, and is now a full aussie with two children born in Perth. at the moment he has a house in townsville Qa. and another in Perth, and works as a civil cotractor, mainly on opencast mining sites, usually in the back of beyond. Mothers maiden name was Perry, and she was born in Bristol,  probably my generation, now in our 70s is a bit before your time, have you tried the bbc s.wales site, and log on to splott, lots of contacts, there. Regards splottboy
Title: Re: Need help with hotels/inns in Glam
Post by: Marja on Friday 22 February 08 10:57 GMT (UK)
Hi Splottboy,
   Small world I too have a son living in Townsville N.Qld.
There are a few other pubs listed for around Roath  district  in 1880 these any good to you.  I will try the site you have mentioned. Thanks for that! Marja
Title: Re: Need help with hotels/inns in Glam
Post by: splottboy on Friday 22 February 08 13:55 GMT (UK)
Hi Marja, full address for splott site as follows.   http://www.bbc.co.uk/wales/southeast/sites/cardiff    lots of  people on site. regards, splottboy.
Title: Re: Need help with hotels/inns in Glam
Post by: Marja on Monday 10 March 08 08:58 GMT (UK)

Hi Splottboy,

  Many thanks for info. Had a look and lo and behold Olivia Newton John from Australia was chasing her farher's roots in Cardiff. Great site ,and I remembered Billy the Seal at Victoria Park too.

              Regards  Marja
Title: Re: Need help with hotels/inns in Glam
Post by: Marja on Monday 10 March 08 09:04 GMT (UK)

To Zenick.  I am not sure what time period you are looking for on your pub crawl but in 1914 a few listed below.

Crwys Hotel.  34 Crwys Rd Cathays.  Chas A McAulay

Splottlands Inn. 3 & 4 Meteor St.   Charles Ward

Cardiff Arms Hotel. 65 Railway St. Moors.  R.G.Rogers

Hope this helps!      Marja
Title: Re: Need help with hotels/inns in Glam
Post by: Marja on Monday 10 March 08 09:26 GMT (UK)

 Does anyone know of Julie(Julia) and Marie(Maria) GOMEZ sisters who ran a pub in the

1920's down the docks area could be''The Ship' or some name like that. I had an aunt

(b) 1902 Cardiff who worked for them. She ran away with a married man in 1923 who

worked on the docks docks and was known to her brother at the time.  Name unknown

of the man. She has not been heard of since that time. Sounds like anyone you

know ????     Marja

Title: Re: Need help with hotels/inns in Glam
Post by: heddwch on Monday 10 March 08 23:35 GMT (UK)
Hello Marj. There is a pub called The Ship and Pilot 36 James St., Cardiff Bay. This pub is now in a very nice part of Cardiff since the docks have been renovated. Prior to this it was rough and part of the docks. In the late 60`s had great blues music by musicians played there.Good luck in your search.
Title: Re: Need help with hotels/inns in Glam
Post by: Marja on Tuesday 11 March 08 01:09 GMT (UK)

Hi Heddwch.

 Thank you for replying. Luck??? I'll really need it!    Marja
Title: Re: Tredegar, Splott
Post by: bigmagicdog on Friday 14 March 08 19:42 GMT (UK)
Sad news, the Tredegar is now closed and boarded up. Another sign of the high prices forced upon us by private enterprise.
Title: Re: Need help with hotels/inns in Glam
Post by: Welsh Girl on Saturday 15 March 08 11:38 GMT (UK)
The Tredegar is closed due to the ever increasing number of drug dealers using it ..

There was also the Ruperra Hotel in Splott.  That's been since demolished and there are flats built on the old site. (thre is a story behind that too)

The Splottlands is still there ...

There was also another Pub on the corner of Meteor Street .. I am sure it was either called The Meteor or The Comet.

There is the Cottage in Sanquahar Street, Splott - that's been there donkey's years ,,,,

What about the Packet down the Docks?  Have you looked at that one?

Good Luck
Title: Re: Need help with hotels/inns in Glam
Post by: heddwch on Sunday 16 March 08 09:36 GMT (UK)
HI. Marge, Is it just the Cardiff Docks area you are interested in? Cheers
Title: Re: Need help with hotels/inns in Glam
Post by: bigmagicdog on Monday 17 March 08 20:43 GMT (UK)
Many years ago before I became a serious drinker and geneaologist I saw a map of Cardiff pubs. It was not really to scale but was interesting. Wish I had a copy. Does anyone know of such a document existing today?
Title: Re: Need help with hotels/inns in Glam
Post by: heddwch on Monday 17 March 08 22:08 GMT (UK)
Hello, Why not try www.cardiffpubs.co.uk click on map. Cheers  ps some of these pubs are very old !
Title: Re: Need help with hotels/inns in Glam
Post by: Marja on Tuesday 18 March 08 10:48 GMT (UK)

Hi Heddwch,

Yes only the docks at present. Though Ada Evans worked at the Sandringham Hotel at one time in the 1920's also my dad's sister. Am also looking for a pub in Newport. Isle of Wight called the Trooper Inn, it was pulled down about 1970's to make way for a shopping centre.

           Marja
Title: Re: Need help with hotels/inns in Glam
Post by: heddwch on Tuesday 18 March 08 10:58 GMT (UK)
Hello Marja. The Sandringham Hotel Is still in St Mary Street the main street in Cardiff its now know for its Jazz nights. Click on the link on the message re cardiff pubs and click on Bay ( used to be the docks) Happy hunting.
Title: Re: Need help with hotels/inns in Glam
Post by: heddwch on Tuesday 18 March 08 11:03 GMT (UK)
Hi again. Have you seen this webpage. www.insula.vecta.btinternet.co.uk/NP4.html.
It mentions the Tropper pub on the ISW. Cheers
Title: Re: Need help with hotels/inns in Glam
Post by: Marja on Thursday 20 March 08 11:26 GMT (UK)

Hi Heddwych,

    Had a look at the IOW site. Very interesting I enjoyed looking at it.   I tried Google to find Mews Beers, but no luck! and there was the history of the brewers  of Mews Beer on the site.
 
      Thanks for your help,   Marja
Title: Re: Need help with hotels/inns in Glam
Post by: heddwch on Thursday 20 March 08 18:35 GMT (UK)
Hi. Was only to pleased to help ask anytime Lynfa