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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Sussex => Topic started by: UncleLarry on Wednesday 14 November 07 20:02 GMT (UK)
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For those who have been following my research, we now have the basic website up and running. You can view it here:
http://www.execulink.com/~lfoord/index/jfoord.htm
If <i>anyone</i> has <i>any</i> Foord information, or has a Foord clock or watch, please either post a message in this forum or PM me.
Thanks!
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Hi there,
My father-in-law has Foords in his tree so your post caught my eye - I can't see any connection but did see this in the 1861 census:
RG9; Piece: 561; Folio: 54; Page: 18
Civil Parish: Hastings St Mary Magdalen
Ecclesiastical parish: Chichester
County/Island: Sussex
32 Norman Rd West
White Hart Inn
Charles Foord, Head, Mar, 32, Retailer of Beer, born Battle
Mary A Foord, Wife, Mar, 32, born Battle
Emerly E Foord, Dau, 11, Scholar, born, St Mary Magdalene
Charles H Foord, Son, 8, Scholar, St Mary Magdalene
Elfred G Foord, Son, 6, Scholar, St Mary Magdalene
Charlotte Foord, Dau, 4, Scholar, St Mary Magdalene
Sarah Foord, Dau, 2, St Mary Magdalene
All born Sussex - plus some servants
Could this be your missing Alfred - especially as the enumerator has written Emerly for Emily - Elfred for Alfred?
The family are still together in 1871 (Charles having remarried), but "Elfred" is missing, so possibly yours!
Of course the only way to really find out would be to order his birth certificate, but I'd say this entry is a strong contender :)
Kind Regards,
Karen
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Larry
Well done on the Web site - it looks very, very, promising to me at the moment and I like the way the pictures just seem to sink into the text.
No doubt as you find more data it will expand over several pages - but it is an excellent start
Well done
Chris in 1066
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Larry
Spotted this in the Burials - fits in perfectly with a birth about 1855
FOORD ALFRED GEORGE, aged 90, buried 13 September 1945, Hastings Cem. Div A.
What do you think
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Hi Karen.......you are right, it is a strong contender. I am exhausted here (it is about 6PM), I have had a long hard day (especially for a semi-retired guy) so I am going to have my dinner and relax. But I will have a go at it in the morning and get back to you then.
And thanks very much for writing!
Larry
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Chris, I got your email with the notes and will get it entered on the site tomorrow. Give you a good plug..... :)...which you more than deserve!
And there can't be too many Alfred Georges, I will doublecheck tomorrow but can't see how you could possibly be wrong.
Thanks for the comments on the site, it is coming together finally. Have more pictures to add yet, and a bit more on the Kent side. What I really need now is a "Chris in Kent"......... :)
I am worn out, time to sign off for the night............have a great one!
Larry
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Larry,
Congratulations on the site. It is very interesting. Like you, I thought that the Foord name was uncommon when I first started my research. However, that's not the case. I have quite a bit of information on the Foords of Westham (from about 1800 onwards) who moved to Ringmer in about 1890. There is quite a bit of information on the Fo(o)rds of Ninfield who included James Ford who was sentenced to transportation to Australia for his part in the Battle of Sidley Green.
I'll keep an eye out for your ancestors.
Regards
Mark
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Not sure if you have this yet:
Watchmakers & Clockmakers of the World (vol.2):
FOORD James Hastings 1862-78
No mention of Foord in vol. 1.
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Hi Mark.......thanks for the nice comments. I have been chasing Foords for a long time, but primarily because of my Kent interests, thus the Sussex stuff is relatively new to me. I do certainly recall the James who "created" the immigration to Australia. Truth is, without his genes, there wouldn't be nearly as many Foords in OzLand! Don't think there is a connection though unless I can get back further. Be sure to write if you run across anything else........Larry
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Not sure if you have this yet:
Watchmakers & Clockmakers of the World (vol.2):
FOORD James Hastings 1862-78
No mention of Foord in vol. 1.
I was aware of it, but nonetheless appreciate your taking the time!
For what it's worth I do have this (and a couple of others clockmaker/watchmaker books) so if anyone wants another watchmaker looked up be glad to do it.
Larry
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Chris...on Alfred's burial it has to be right, near impossible for it not to be. Following the rules that says you must see the documentation yourself I can't be absolutely conclusive, but for the time being it is good enough for me. And if you read my next post to Karen, we now have more information!
The website is now ammended, please review the comments on your work and let me know you anything changed.
Thanks, Larry
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Karen......no longer a contender, were right on the money! And here's why. According to the later census, Alfred lists his birthplace as St Leonards on the Sea. Your family lists their birthplace (for the children) as St Mary Magdalene. I don't know the difference, but they most be very close. In the 1871 census I find the same family, with no Elfred/Alfred, which is correct since he appears on his own as a student at Battle Grammar School. And the 1871 census has the children stating their birthplace as St Leonards on the Sea. I had already ordered his birth certificate, so I must wait until it arrives to confirm it, but hard to believe this is wrong information. Also, I noted you said that Charles had remarried...I assume since the 1871 census states "wife Maria age 24"; is there perhaps an error rather than being remarried.....numbers transposed, Mary becoming Maria? Anyhow, I am very very grateful for this clue, and wish I could thank you more! BTW, do you know Charles' father?
Larry
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Larry
St Mary Magdalen is a parish of St Leonards.
Going to have a look at your website again now
Chris in 1066
Wow Larry, thats the best plug anyone has ever given me or written about me, I dont really know what to say except a big big thankyou.
Could you please put a link to 1066 genealogy on your site please - my newest link is to your site, I put it on last night.
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You've got it backwards on thanks...... :)
OK on St Mary Magdalen and St Leonards, that whole thing is tying up together real nice.
Also, Mary Burgess wrote me directly with some more Chapman/Foord information.....she has some early stuff documented and we are going to go through that stuff too.
Noticed the link this morning when I was reading the "servant" stuff; thanks Funny thing, I ran into the word servant so many times when pouring over census records. Now it all comes together.
Will add the link, should be up later today or early tomorrow.
Have a great day, don't work too hard.......Larry
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Larry
Whilst browsing my earlier databases on some old CD's I came across the following in All Saints Church, Hastings: The Transcription came from a publication done in 1890 by Alfred Ridley Bax FSA
Memorial number 0372
Memorial Description :-
Number of components 1 Memorial condition
Memorial type HEADSTONE Inscription condition
Material of gravestone Height/Length(mm) 0
Mason Width(mm) 0
Number commemorated 1 Thickness(mm) 0
Inscription Method Direction faced by memorial
Memorial inscription :-
To the dear and loved memory of Charles James Foord who was born at
Wainfleet Lincolnshire Novr 25th 1851 and died at Hastings April 26th 1853.
(Text)
Now, the way I read this, it is probably the first child of James and Clara. - If they married in September 1850 at Wainfleet, Lincs, then it is just over a year before Charles James was born - In those days, most women went home to mum to have their first child. He survived up to the age of 18 months; but he would not appear on any census so we would not have any record for him. Getting a birth of death certificate would confirm.
What are your thoughts on this
Chris
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Hi Chris:
Just sent you an email on the corrections........and I do appreciate your looking out for me... :)
This is quite interesting, and I suspect you are right on the money. I will have to dig deep in my notes, but am quite sure there are no other James and Claras, thus it would have to be them. You sure are the dedicated detective. I am a bit bogged down here, got home late yesterday and still have quite bit of work to do, but will review and confirm a bit later. I also need to do some gedcom work to get that off to you.
My pleasure Chris.......thanks, Larry
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Hi Chris....got up early this morning, first thing I saw was your email! Four generations, I simply can't believe my luck! I will email you back later this afternoon on that, and the other corrections. I am so so excited. First though I must get caught up on the forum, reply to a few PMs, then I am off for a few hours but will be back later this afternoon.
I have gone through my stuff and can find nothing even remotely close to another James and Clara, so given the additional evidence such as Hastings/Wainfleet connection it has to be right.
Again Chris comes through with wonderful new information, you would put Sherlock Holmes to shame!
Larry
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Hi Larry
Just received this private message from a new member - JOBAZ
Think it might be of interest to you
Hi Chris,
I have just been looking through the messages between yourself and Larry back in November. My gt. grandparent's were Edward Chapman & Phoebe Foord.
I have researched the Foord family and have a James Burt Foord, jeweller, born 1859 at Hastings, the son of James Burt Foord and Clara Pickersgill. Clara was born abt. 1829 at Mainfleet, Lincoln, and her husband James Burt Foord was born 13 April 1829, at Ninfield. He was the the illigit son of Mary Foord, born 27 Jan 1811 at Ninfield. Mary in turn was the daughter of Thomas Foord and Jane Vann and born at Ninfield on 27 Jan 1811. She was the sister of my gt. grandmother, Phoebe Foord, also of Ruth - the Chapman dairy branch, and Barbara Foord wife of James Chapman.
Hope this is of help.
Happy New Year to you and yours Larry - hope it turns out to be very prosperous for you - Ancestor wise of course!
Chris in 1066
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Thanks much Chris, I will contact him. And all the very best for the new year.......Larry