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Title: Ever wondered?
Post by: gah on Wednesday 14 November 07 12:42 GMT (UK)
   Hi ,
        Been in deep thought  ??? about this now for sometime , maybe i'm a bit sad :( but has anyone else ever wondered if they look like any of their ancesters and have their personalities  ??? i saw a program once on some sort of DNA where they can tell what part of the country they originate from which i supose would then allow the person to know which side of the family they take after (if you see what i mean ) i'd love to know this i think it would make me feel who i " belonged to " mum's side of the family or dad's , i did know both set's of grandparents but cannot see any resemblement to any of them (although i suppose you don't see it yourself ) but i would love to have seen their parents and sibling's ..........has anyone else ever wondered this or is it just me been SAD ???

                            gah
Title: Re: Ever wondered?
Post by: toni* on Wednesday 14 November 07 12:58 GMT (UK)
no its not sad at all i look at the few old photos i have had think who has whose eyes, hair  etc. a lot of my Cornsih guys ahd red hair and my uncle and cousin have now they obvs got it from there.
My grandfather was ukrainian and therefore we all have very pale skin particualy my elder daughter who looks like a milk bottle even in the middle of summer


not to the extent of my partners dad though everytime we see him we have to look like someone or have the same characteristics as someone - then it gets annoying

just becuase my youngest daghter is lefthanded (so is my dad) doesnt mean she got it from her great uncle so and so.

my daughter is disabled the condiditon she has is genetic yet i have not found anyone else with the same conditon in the family.

she has Spinal Muscle Atrophy type 3 (luckily she has type 3 becuase type 1 & 2 are life limiting)

has anyone heard of this condition?

i have never met anyone who has yet 1 in 40 people carry the faulty SMN1 gene and it is the biggest killer inthe UK of children under 1 years of age .

i think there should be a government awareness campaign to make people more aware of it and to get the test introduced at pregnancy that teels you if your child has SMA or not (there is a test similar process to the downs syndrome one but it is only offered to people that already have a SMA child)

rant over i shall now step down of my soap box

 :D

 
Title: Re: Ever wondered?
Post by: Roobarb on Wednesday 14 November 07 13:16 GMT (UK)

she has Spinal Muscle Atrophy type 3 (luckily she has type 3 becuase type 1 & 2 are life limiting)

has anyone heard of this condition?
 

Yes, I've heard of it Toni, apparently my great uncle suffered from it but I don't know which type. He was 68 when he died but it was just after I was born so I never knew him. My brother is a lot older than me though and can remember him, he told me what the condition was called. I don't know of anyone before or since who has suffered with this, perhaps I'll find out in my research. It's terrible that the condition has so little recognition in terms of testing for it as a genetic illness.

And to go back to the original question, yes I have wondered if I am like any of my ancestors. My grandparents' wedding photo has all the wedding guests on it  so I've had a good look at them all! They are on my Dad's side though, and I think I probably take more after my Mother's side.
Title: Re: Ever wondered?
Post by: toni* on Wednesday 14 November 07 13:30 GMT (UK)
is that good you take after your mothers side or is that wishfult hinking because of the photo you have of your fathers side!

i'm glad someone else has heard of SMA but sadly those are usually the people that have a family member or friend  with the condition.

Title: Re: Ever wondered?
Post by: erin9 on Wednesday 14 November 07 13:31 GMT (UK)
I to look at old photos gah and wonder what they looked like. and if there was any resemblance,  or traits that have been passed down,  so you're not alone in your thoughts,

But sometimes I get sad :'( when I look at the death certificates of so long ago and I feel (silly as it sounds)  as though I am intruding in their grief, as they were real flesh and blood, and my ancestors.........................
Strange the things we think of, but all we can do is wonder
  
erin
Title: Re: Ever wondered?
Post by: Roobarb on Wednesday 14 November 07 13:41 GMT (UK)
is that good you take after your mothers side or is that wishfult hinking because of the photo you have of your fathers side!


Not sure whether it's good or not but my parents were both lovely people so I don't really mind. I must admit that I like the look of my Dad's paternal grandmother - not because I think she's especially nice looking, just that she looks like a spunky lady!
Title: Re: Ever wondered?
Post by: toni* on Wednesday 14 November 07 13:51 GMT (UK)
spunky lady  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Ever wondered?
Post by: Windsor87 on Wednesday 14 November 07 15:42 GMT (UK)
I've been told I look like my father's father, and my mother.
Make of that what you will.  ???
Title: Re: Ever wondered?
Post by: Roobarb on Wednesday 14 November 07 16:30 GMT (UK)
Just thinking again about your post Toni, my gt uncle had only one child as far as I can see, who died age six. His own parents had eleven other children, at least five of them died in childhood. I know the infant mortality rate was high in those days anyway but it makes me wonder whether any of them had SMA.

And to go back to the original post:

   i saw a program once on some sort of DNA where they can tell what part of the country they originate from which i supose would then allow the person to know which side of the family they take after

I saw the programme gah, it was called The Face of Britain (if we are referring to the same one). I found it absolutely fascinating, they could trace back whether you were descended from the Vikings, Normans etc. They also showed people who had 'typical' faces of the area. All clever stuff!
Title: Re: Ever wondered?
Post by: toni* on Wednesday 14 November 07 18:36 GMT (UK)
they did that DNA thing on the programme family tree or something similar it used to be shownin themorning - i think onlyonce- with Anthony whats his name and nadia swahlia.

Title: Re: Ever wondered?
Post by: Windsor87 on Wednesday 14 November 07 18:37 GMT (UK)
I don't understand how any of that can work.

What would happen if your father's side were vikings and your mother's side Normans?
Title: Re: Ever wondered?
Post by: toni* on Wednesday 14 November 07 18:43 GMT (UK)
apparently all of one side had ginger hair and alof th others looked liek hagr the horrible if youwere half anf half imagine the results! lol

Title: Re: Ever wondered?
Post by: ozlady on Wednesday 14 November 07 22:59 GMT (UK)
My first grandson bears a very striking resemblance to my great uncle and grandfather.
Title: Re: Ever wondered?
Post by: indiapaleale on Thursday 15 November 07 00:03 GMT (UK)
At my age, I try not to wonder too much......it might use up my few remaining brain cells...... ;D ;D

However, I always wondered about my Mom's side of the family....they all had such dark skin and such stunning blue eyes........(I inherited the blue peepers).....

I used to wonder if they were foreign in someway......well....I dug back far enough and discovered that her ancestors had a Romany name and were brush makers (a Romany trade) in Wiltshire....

I am tickled pink that I probably have gypsy roots.

Isn't family tree fun?
Indi
Title: Re: Ever wondered?
Post by: toni* on Thursday 15 November 07 09:00 GMT (UK)
yes it is fun  :D

do you know about the genetics?

the brown eye gene is stronger than the blue eye gene,
so to have blue eyes you have to have 2 blue eye genes passed down one from your father and one from your mother

they would have had to have 2 blue eye genes to get blue eyes themselves however if they have a brown eye gene and a blue eye gene their eye colour is going to be brown but that doesnt stop them from passing the blue eye gene onto you.  :D
(a bit of useless info. for you there!)


Title: Re: Ever wondered?
Post by: gah on Thursday 15 November 07 10:53 GMT (UK)
  Hi all i'm just fascinated to read everyones input into this subject at least i know i'm not on my own ;D , Toni that's not usless info , i did'nt know that about the eye colour , found that quite interesting  :) ,


   by the way pehaps the illness (which i had not heard of before , 'scuse my ignorance )  had not been "discovered then " and maybe somewhere along the line one of your ancesters lost children at young ages and it was put down to something else , which has made me think whilst doing my tree i found out my grandfather's mother lost a total of 6 brothers , all under the age of12 , so when i can afford to i'm going to send for their death cert's , curiosity's got the better of me  :)

                              gail
Title: Re: Ever wondered?
Post by: sharmar on Thursday 15 November 07 13:38 GMT (UK)
Hi all

Its not sad at all (that is what I'm telling myself anyway)  I'm always wondering about that sort of thing. 

My mom says I look like my dad and my maternal grandmother and my moms sisters say I look like my mom!!  But what I have found out is alot of coincidence's eg my grandfather and his grandfather and me were all born in June and 63 years appart!! You might not think thats strange but as I never knew either of them it makes them more real for me.

I am the only left hander in all my living relatives and none of the older ones can remember any others!!!  So does that make me strange or special!!!

I do wish that cameras had been invented hundreds of years ago and I had pictures of all my relatives.

Sharmar
Title: Re: Ever wondered?
Post by: cathaldus on Thursday 15 November 07 14:37 GMT (UK)
When people tell me I must have a double - I insist on IRISH whiskey!!
Title: Re: Ever wondered?
Post by: KathMc on Thursday 15 November 07 15:31 GMT (UK)
I often wonder this myself also. I think it is a fascinating topic to muse on. When I see pictures of myself as a youngun, I look just like my maternal grandmother, but everyone has always thought I look like my father. I concluded my parents must have been related.  :o ;D

Both my kids have bags under their eyes and I have a picture of a great-grandmother and her sister when they were little, and they both have the bags going on. And from my mom's side, there is a whole issue with blood flow and clotting that is at least 3 generations through.

My son is color blind, like my dad was, and sometimes it bothers him and sometimes he likes being like Grandpa. I like that he got that from my dad.

Even though we can never learn to what extent, I like to think our ancestors spirit lives on in us somehow.

Kath
Title: Re: Ever wondered?
Post by: Lloydy on Thursday 15 November 07 15:59 GMT (UK)
I have my Mum's blue eyes and blonde hair, with Dad's nose, jawline and mouth ;D

In an old thread on here (can't find it to post the link), it was pointed out that I resembled my maternal grandmother.

What do you think?

Title: Re: Ever wondered?
Post by: Roobarb on Thursday 15 November 07 16:35 GMT (UK)
Yes you do Llody, face shape and eyes definitely. Get one of these photo whizzes to paste her hair on you or vice versa and I'm sure it will be even more obvious!

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Title: Re: Ever wondered?
Post by: gah on Friday 16 November 07 08:58 GMT (UK)
  Lloyd
              that's uncanny   :) you do look like her i'd be fascinated to see how you look if someone did do that to your photo ( putting your  gt grandmother's hair on you ) bet you'd be hard pushed to tell who was who  ;D you are very lucky to have her picture , thing's like that to me are real treasured posecions

               gah
Title: Re: Ever wondered?
Post by: toni* on Friday 16 November 07 09:01 GMT (UK)
lovely picture she had a cheeky smile, can def. see the resembalance

Title: Re: Ever wondered?
Post by: little meg on Friday 16 November 07 09:31 GMT (UK)
I can see a likeness Lloydy,  I have done a  very rough transplant of the hair for you, sorry not a great job.

Margaret
Title: Re: Ever wondered?
Post by: toni* on Friday 16 November 07 10:14 GMT (UK)
jus change the chin and it would be a perfect match!

Title: Re: Ever wondered?
Post by: Lloydy on Friday 16 November 07 11:58 GMT (UK)

I can't change my chin...............it's like my Dad's!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D

It's only since doing my family tree that I have realised just how alike Nan and I are.  When I was young I just couldn't see it :-\


Now this is really weird..................I have been in contact with a very very distant cousin who lives in New Zealand (2nd cousin, twice removed to be exact!!).  He very kindly emailed some photos of himself standing outside the property where our ancestors lived in Wales with their large brood.  I was absolutely amazed when I saw him..........he's the absolute double of one of my Uncles (Mum's brother)!!!!!!  I was completely gobsmacked ;D ;D
Title: Re: Ever wondered?
Post by: adee7 on Friday 16 November 07 12:39 GMT (UK)
 Recently when I received a photo of a great uncle,  I was quite startled because the resemblance to one of my cousins was very strong.  Their height, build, facial features, and even the hairlines were the same. 

As for myself, I look very much like my mother's mother and  my interests as a young woman were very similar to hers, beginning with the fact that each of us had two sons then a daughter. 

Kathleen
Title: Re: Ever wondered?
Post by: toni* on Friday 16 November 07 12:43 GMT (UK)
some families you can clearly see the resembalance but others it is harder to spot.

my BF and his sister and elder brother - who died as a child look like their father but their other brother looks like the milkman!
or the mothers side of the family


Title: Re: Ever wondered?
Post by: Roobarb on Friday 16 November 07 16:42 GMT (UK)
One of my gt gt gt grandmothers came from a hamlet called Booze in Arkengarthdale. That must be where I get the likeness!
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Title: Re: Ever wondered?
Post by: meles on Friday 16 November 07 16:52 GMT (UK)
I was quite spooked when I got my ggg grandfather's army records - brown hair, grey eyes and 5' 11' - that's me!

And of course, he was "of good character"...  ;D

meles
Title: Re: Ever wondered?
Post by: Roobarb on Friday 16 November 07 17:40 GMT (UK)
And modest too, no doubt Meles?   (http://www.smilieshq.com/smilies/winking0011.gif) (http://www.smilieshq.com)
Title: Re: Ever wondered?
Post by: meles on Friday 16 November 07 17:45 GMT (UK)
Well, it doesn't say that, but I'll assume it's another genetic trait - I must have got it from somewhere!  ;)

meles
Title: Re: Ever wondered?
Post by: Josephine on Thursday 22 November 07 13:24 GMT (UK)
I often think about this issue.

I look like my mother and her mother.  I also have a slight resemblance to my father's grandmother.

Both of my brothers look like our father's side of the family. 

Last year, someone showed me a photo of my paternal great-grandfather's brother and I was struck by the strong resemblance to my youngest brother. 

As a young adult, my other brother visited the city where our father was living.  Even when he was on his own, at places such as the gas station, complete strangers would say to him, "You're so-and-so's son".  He even walks like our father.

My daughter has my colouring and some resemblance to me but some of her features are like a female version of my husband's.  My daughter has my toes, which are the same as my father's toes. 

I get a kick out of seeing these things because they're a visual reminder that we are related.

There are other ways that we can resemble our families, such as character traits and innate abilities. 

My mother was always told that she was just like her father's side of the family and that she took after her father's sister.

These things can form part of our identity, in good or bad ways.

I agree with gah:  it would be so nice and interesting to have more photos of my ancestors and their families as well as stories about their lives and personalities. 

I don't feel too sad about it, though, because my brothers and I grew up knowing who we looked like.

One thing that amuses me is how much shorter most of the men used to be.  They grow 'em taller nowadays.   ;)

Regards,
Josephine
Title: Re: Ever wondered?
Post by: meles on Thursday 22 November 07 15:00 GMT (UK)
It's the better diet. I was struck in Japan last year how the adult children tower over their parents.

meles
Title: Re: Ever wondered?
Post by: Josephine on Thursday 22 November 07 18:15 GMT (UK)
I am sure you are right, meles.

I think the abundance of meat in our diet is a big factor.

Regards,
Josephine
Title: Re: Ever wondered?
Post by: toni* on Thursday 22 November 07 18:28 GMT (UK)
or the fertilizer!
Title: Re: Ever wondered?
Post by: Roobarb on Thursday 22 November 07 23:38 GMT (UK)
It's the better diet.
meles

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