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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Suffolk Lookup Requests => Suffolk => England => Suffolk Completed Lookup Requests => Topic started by: ard on Saturday 10 November 07 03:31 GMT (UK)
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I'm hoping someone can do a look-up for me. I'm trying to help an elderly relative trace back her family. One of her great grandmother's was Frances (Fanny) MAYHEW, born about 1850. She is in the 1851 census (age 1) in the district of Thingoe, Ixworth where she was born but I don't have the rest of her family, nor could I find her in 1861! She married in 1870 ,so it is only those two years that I'm looking for (although if other family members, esp. her parents are still around beyond that, we would welcome any such info!
cheers,
ard
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Hi Ard,
1851
HO107/1791 550 11
Stanton, Suffolk
Chave
Francis Mayhew, head, 36, Ag lab
Ann, wife, 34
Henry, son, 6
Alfred, son, 4
Frances, dau, 1
All born Stanton
Next door:
William Mayhew, head, 72, Pauper, b. Hepworth
Ann, wife, 66, Payper, b. Bury St Edm
George, son, unm, 28, Ag lab, b. Stanton
:)
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Spanner in the works! I can see 2 candidates in 1861:
The one from above and also:
RG9/1139 72 5
Stanton, Suffolk
Dog Street
Mary Mayhew, head, mar, 37, Seamstress, b. Stanton
Walter, son, 18, Ag lab, b. do.
Alfred, son, 15, Ag lab, b. do.
Rebecca, dau, 12, scholar, b. Kent ?Burley?
Francis, dau, 10, scholar, b. Stanton
Selina, dau, 8, scholar, b. Yorkshire Shipley
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Oh - it was seeming rather simple!
Is that the only one you found for 1861? It is interesting that Alfred and France(i)s fit in both families but the Mary in 1861 is a lot younger than the Ann in 1851 (hmm or are you saying that the family of Francis is also around in 1861)!
On free bmd there were two births for a Frances Mayhew in Thingoe - one in 1849 and one in 1850 (I was beginning to think that there was an error and they were one in the same)
That's a bigger picture than I was counting on!!! :P
I'll see what we can make of it!
ard
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Indeed, the one with parents Francis and Ann is there as well :P
RG9/1139 81 22
Stanton Common
Francis Mayhew, 43, Ag lab
Ann, wife, 42
Alfred, son, 13, Ag lab
Frances, dau, 11, scholar
Henry, son, 1
Thos, brother, unm, 48, Ag lab
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HMMMM. And Frances seemed to have had only one child that she named Beatrice! If it had been Rebecca,Selina, Walter or Alfred - I might have gone Ah ha! But alas...
You know I always wonder about "pauper" Would the person answer that to the question of "occupation?"? That would surprise me, but then what would be said for the census taker to write it - especially if they aren't living in a workhouse...
Thanks for looking Tati. I'm not sure how I'm going to untangle that one!
cheers,
ard
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I'm not a specialist at all but I suppose pauper would simply mean that they received parish relief (someone more knowledgeable will correct me).
Why not try to get hold of the Frances' marriage cert to check her father's name? :)
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Yes, that's an idea.
The more I think of it, I think she is the younger of the two. From free BMD, the two Frances were each born in the 4th quarter of 1859 and 1850. From the census returns, Frances' age tends towards 1851.
I wonder where that family was in 1851 though. The father seems not to have been with them in 1861; the child before Frances was born in Kent and the youngest was born in Yorkshire - so perhaps they moved around a bit.
Frances married into a military family so perhaps her father was also ? Might explain the apparent movement of the family....
ard
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I wonder where that family was in 1851 though.
In Yorkshire :)
1851
HO107/2284 293 13
Otley, Yorkshire
Village of Burley
189 Iron Row
Thomas Mahew, head, 40, Labourer, b. Suffolk Stanton
Mary, wife, 30, b. do.
Eliza, dau, 14, Spinner Worsted, b. do.
Mary Ann, dau, 12, ditto, b. do.
Walton, son, 10, ditto, b. do.
Alfred, son, 7, scholar, b. do.
Rebecca, dau, 3, b. Kent Chiselhurst
Frances, dau, 5 mo, b. do. ( ???)
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Oh! That would also fit what I just found:
IGI batch C131001
REBECCA MAYHEW
Christening: 24 JUN 1848 Sidcup, Kent, England
Father: THOMAS MAYHEW
Mother: MARY ANNE
I wasn't successful in finding the other family. I wouldn't be too worried about the birth place of the Frances - I think the others confirm the fit! So I wonder if it is Walton or Walter!?!
They sure seemed to have moved around a bit.
You are a wonderful help,
thank you
ard
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I think it's Walter! He's still in Stanton in 1881. I wish I could find the others in 1871! :-\
Edit! Found them in St George Hanover Square. Was hoping for their Frances to be still at home so as to discount her - unfortunately she's not with them ... (do you want the details?)
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Yes I'd love the details, thank you.
Frances married in 1870 (Lambeth Surrey) which explains why you cant' find her (!)- Her daughter was born at St George Han Sq in 1880, as were her husband and children.
She married Charles Spraggs (he's the one with the Scots Guard) there has been no success in locating either of them in 1871, though I do have her census info from 1881 to 1901.
:D ard
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1871
RG10/108 82 38
St George Hanover Square
Sapers? St
Thomas Mahew, head, 60, Stone Mason, b. Stanton Suffolk
Mary, wife, 48, b. do.
Rebecca, dau, unm, 24, b. Chiselhurst Kent
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Mimi (?) Mahew, wife, mar, 21, b. Hamburg Germany
Rebecca, dau, 4 months, b. Pimlico London
I can't see them in 1881 but Thomas and Mary are still at St George Hanover Sq in 1891 (28 Westmorland St)
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Mimi (?) Mahew, wife, mar, 21, b. Hamburg Germany
Rebecca, dau, 4 months, b. Pimlico London
I'm wondering who Mimi was the wife of... does the forward slash imply that they are two families in the same household?
thanks (again!!)
ard
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Slash is same address, separate household :)
I'm not quite sure about the wife's first name :P Can't seem to find them on any other census either :-\
By elimination, I'd say we should suspect Alfred but who knows! (In 1871, there is an Alfred lodging in Bedminster Somerset, married, 25, Engine fitter at works - but he may belong to the other Mayhew family!! ).
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Might be Maria??
Marriages 2nd Q 1867 Elsdon Eliza Wandsworth 1d 742
MAYHEW Alfred Wandsworth 1d 742
Roberts Frederick Samuel Wandsworth 1d 742
Withall Maria Wandsworth 1d 742
I don't think it was Walter, those marriages seem even less likely....
Well I've got stuff to work with, anyway!You've certainly helped us on our way!
ard
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Hi Ard
I have just spotted this conversation.
Do you know if this Mayhew family is linked to the Francis MAYHEW of Metfield, Suffolk mentioned in the Bastardy examination of Mary ELMER 10 Feb 1757.
The latter unmarried couple are my 5Xgreat grandparents.
Best regards
Twizz