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Title: Great Ormond Street Hospital - admission records database
Post by: bearkat on Friday 09 November 07 08:03 GMT (UK)
Thought Rootschatters might find this site interesting.

"Small and Special is a collection of resources relating to the early years of The Hospital for Sick Children at Great Ormond Street, England’s first in-patient children’s hospital. Here you can trace a patient, learn about childhood diseases, or investigate a member of the medical staff."

http://www.smallandspecial.org/

Vey interesting for family history and medical research - fascinating
Title: Re: Great Ormond Street Hospital - admission records database
Post by: GreySquirrel on Friday 09 November 07 08:27 GMT (UK)
I found a relative on there last night -- you don't get the case history (only admission and discharge) even once you've registered, but I would never have known otherwise that this relative had a condition for which she was treated in the capital.

You can search just by place (without surname) -- this is what I did, as I'm interested in pretty much everyone from my small home town.
Title: Re: Great Ormond Street Hospital - admission records database
Post by: nanny jan on Sunday 15 June 08 18:29 BST (UK)
Hi bearkat,

This site seems to have vanished!  Any ideas how to find it?



Nanny Jan
Title: Re: Great Ormond Street Hospital - admission records database
Post by: liverpool annie on Sunday 15 June 08 18:35 BST (UK)


Google - Great Ormond Street Hospital - admission records database  .... Nanny Jan ... then cache Small and Special  !!

Annie  :)
Title: Re: Great Ormond Street Hospital - admission records database
Post by: Lydart on Sunday 15 June 08 18:39 BST (UK)
Is it me, or doesn't that work ?  I keep getting back to the small and special site with the business woman with the blue folder ?

Nothing to do with GOSH !!
Title: Re: Great Ormond Street Hospital - admission records database
Post by: bearkat on Sunday 15 June 08 18:43 BST (UK)
That's a shame - it seems to have gone.

I've come across quite a few websites that have expired recently. The www. is a fantastic but websites only continue if paid for. Some have just moved and it's a case of tracking them down.

The wayback machine is a fantastic site for finding old websites

http://www.archive.org/web/web.php

It doesn't seem to help with smallandspecial though. :(
Title: Re: Great Ormond Street Hospital - admission records database
Post by: liverpool annie on Sunday 15 June 08 18:44 BST (UK)


It's you Lydart !!  :) :) :) ;D

try again ..... Google - Great Ormond Street Hospital - admission records database  ....  then click on (which should be the second one on the Google page !! )  Small and Special cached  :)
Title: Re: Great Ormond Street Hospital - admission records database
Post by: bearkat on Sunday 15 June 08 18:51 BST (UK)
It doesn't work for me.  :(
Title: Re: Great Ormond Street Hospital - admission records database
Post by: liverpool annie on Sunday 15 June 08 18:52 BST (UK)


How weird ? ... I keep trying it and it works for me ......  :-\
Title: Re: Great Ormond Street Hospital - admission records database
Post by: nanny jan on Sunday 15 June 08 18:52 BST (UK)
 

I can get to the home page but searching takes me back to that woman with the folder.    :(


Nanny Jan
Title: Re: Great Ormond Street Hospital - admission records database
Post by: Lydart on Sunday 15 June 08 18:54 BST (UK)
Nope ... still cant get it !
Title: Re: Great Ormond Street Hospital - admission records database
Post by: liverpool annie on Sunday 15 June 08 18:56 BST (UK)


Maybe it's the way I'm explaining it !! .... it's the Scouse !!  ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Great Ormond Street Hospital - admission records database
Post by: nanny jan on Sunday 15 June 08 19:04 BST (UK)
I followed your instructions Annie but "searching" took me back to the lady with the folder.   ???

Annie, can you get anywhere on "search"?


Nanny Jan
Title: Re: Great Ormond Street Hospital - admission records database
Post by: liverpool annie on Sunday 15 June 08 19:14 BST (UK)


This is what I did .....

I Googled Great Ormond Street Hospital - admission records database

That took me to .......

Great Ormond Street Hospital - admission records database Family ...
Chat about your British and Irish Genealogy UK Family History around England Wales Scotland Ireland. 1881 1901 Census lookups of your ancestors.
www.rootschat.com/forum/index. php?topic=266947.msg1914055;topicseen - 13 minutes ago - Similar pages

ARTICLE - New Websites: Small and Special, Great Ormond Street ...
Dec 12, 2007 ... Great Ormond Street Hospital for Children 1852-1914 ... Special includes a database of patient admission records - from the Hospital’s first ...
globalgenealogy.com/globalgazette/gazed/gazed151.htm - 27k - Cached - Similar pages

Small and Special - 2 visits - 10:41am
Great Ormond Street Hospital for Children NHS Trust and The Institute of Child Health ... Small and Special includes a database of patient admission records ...
www.smallandspecial.org/ - 13k - Cached - Similar pages


Then I clicked on the "cached " of the Small and Special !!
Title: Re: Great Ormond Street Hospital - admission records database
Post by: Tati on Sunday 15 June 08 19:19 BST (UK)
try again ..... Google - Great Ormond Street Hospital - admission records database  ....  then click on (which should be the second one on the Google page !! )  Small and Special cached  :)
This works for me as long as I click on Cache  :D

Does it work better with this link? 
http://www.rootschat.com/links/03n9/
Title: Re: Great Ormond Street Hospital - admission records database
Post by: nanny jan on Sunday 15 June 08 19:22 BST (UK)

Ummmm..........it gets me to the page for small and special (GOSH) but trying to search (using a name I know was on the database) takes me back to the lady with the folder.


Nanny Jan
Title: Re: Great Ormond Street Hospital - admission records database
Post by: Jane0601 on Sunday 15 June 08 19:28 BST (UK)
If you click on 'cached' from Google you're just seeing the page when Google last cached (saved) it.  Searching won't work as the site still no longer exists :(  All you will be able to see is literally that cached page, the links won't work.

I'm hoping it will reappear somewhere soon.  Its been publicised in a couple of family history mags recently, I'd not heard of it before so was just going to have a look.  It appears from the message that comes up at the top of the page that it has expired (i.e whoever owns it has not paid the subscription going forward).
Title: Re: Great Ormond Street Hospital - admission records database
Post by: Lydart on Sunday 15 June 08 20:21 BST (UK)
Yes, I get to the cached page ... but no search facility any more  :(

My own mother was there several time as a small child ...
Title: Re: Great Ormond Street Hospital - admission records database
Post by: pjbuk007 on Sunday 15 June 08 21:55 BST (UK)
Sad that it seems to have disappeared so quickly.  The cache as described above , does not enable one to search.
Title: Re: Great Ormond Street Hospital - admission records database
Post by: LizzieW on Sunday 15 June 08 22:20 BST (UK)
I can get to the search page, but if you put in a name and click search you get the following:

Quote
The domain smallandspecial.org has expired. Please contact your domain name registration service provider for further assistance. If you need help identifying your service provider, visit http://domainhelp.tucows.com.

So it looks as though anyone interested will have to e-mail Gt.Ormond St.Hospital and ask if the Small and Special is available elsewhere.

Lizzie

Modified - Oops, I only read the first page of the postings and didn't realise this had already been said.
Title: Re: Great Ormond Street Hospital - admission records database
Post by: Lass on Monday 16 June 08 13:01 BST (UK)
I can access it today, no problem, from the original link post #1 of this thread.....  :)

http://www.smallandspecial.org/search

Lass x
Title: Re: Great Ormond Street Hospital - admission records database
Post by: LizzieW on Monday 16 June 08 13:30 BST (UK)
That's weird, it definitely wasn't working yesterday.  It looks as if it is now part of the UCL website, not sure it was originally.

Lizzie
Title: Re: Great Ormond Street Hospital - admission records database
Post by: Lydart on Monday 16 June 08 14:09 BST (UK)
Argggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ...

I find the site; enter name for a search ... click ... back to the lady with the blue folder !

I give up !!
Title: Re: Great Ormond Street Hospital - admission records database
Post by: nanny jan on Monday 16 June 08 14:50 BST (UK)


Oooooo Lydart!  Have you tried to register?    It's working for me!  ;D



Nanny Jan
Title: Re: Great Ormond Street Hospital - admission records database
Post by: Lydart on Monday 16 June 08 18:27 BST (UK)
Oh ... no-one said you had to register !   

Doh !


I'll do it later AFTER LISTENING TO HUMPH, Radio 4 ... in four minutes time !!
Title: Re: Great Ormond Street Hospital - admission records database
Post by: nanny jan on Monday 16 June 08 18:34 BST (UK)
I've just had an email about this site and the problems; the new site is

www.smallandspecial.org.uk  there are problems with the original which they

are trying to resolve.


Nanny Jan

ps Lydart.....you only need to register to see all the details........I think!
Title: Re: Great Ormond Street Hospital - admission records database
Post by: newbie on Tuesday 17 June 08 06:46 BST (UK)
ggrrr, I did all that and tried to register and this what I got!

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/home/sands/repos/sands_live/virtualenv/lib/python2.5/site-packages/PasteScript-1.6.3-py2.5.egg/paste/script/wsgiserver/__init__.py", line 624, in communicate
    req.respond()
  File "/home/sands/repos/sands_live/virtualenv/lib/python2.5/site-packages/PasteScript-1.6.3-py2.5.egg/paste/script/wsgiserver/__init__.py", line 359, in respond
    for chunk in response:
  File "build/bdist.linux-i686/egg/pesto/session/base.py", line 428, in sessionmanager_middleware
    result = iter(app(environ, my_start_response))
  File "/home/sands/repos/sands_live/lib/sands/web.py", line 142, in mailer_middleware
    return app(environ, start_response)
  File "build/bdist.linux-i686/egg/pesto/core.py", line 88, in wsgi_app
    res = pesto_app(request)
  File "/home/sands/repos/sands_live/lib/sands/web.py", line 101, in handler
    return app(request, **kwargs)
  File "build/bdist.linux-i686/egg/pesto/despatch.py", line 499, in _despatcher_app
    return handler(request, **kwargs)
  File "/home/sands/repos/sands_live/lib/sands/handlers.py", line 219, in register_submit
    result = validate_registration(request)
  File "/home/sands/repos/sands_live/lib/sands/handlers.py", line 185, in validate_registration
    validator.field_of_interest = String()
NameError: global name 'String' is not defined

grrrr,   ....
newbie
Title: Re: Great Ormond Street Hospital - admission records database
Post by: newbie on Tuesday 17 June 08 06:57 BST (UK)
checked again, and tried to register again, I might not have completed the "Affiliation box" so did that but still received the same message, and I checked that all the fields were completed! and I ticked the terms and condition box so its not that!
 :(  newbie
Title: Re: Great Ormond Street Hospital - admission records database
Post by: newbie on Tuesday 17 June 08 07:01 BST (UK)
and now I've found one of mine on there using the limited search facility..... its maddening.
newbie ::)
Title: Re: Great Ormond Street Hospital - admission records database
Post by: casalguidi on Tuesday 17 June 08 07:21 BST (UK)
No problems here at all ................. I've just logged in with the email address & password selected when I first heard about the site some months ago :-\

Casalguidi
Title: Re: Great Ormond Street Hospital - admission records database
Post by: LizzieW on Tuesday 17 June 08 11:33 BST (UK)
When I click on the website this is what I get:

Welcome to Small and Special

Small and Special is a collection of resources relating to the early years of The Hospital for Sick Children at Great Ormond Street, England’s first in-patient children’s hospital. Here you can trace a patient, learn about childhood diseases, or investigate a member of the medical staff.

Small and Special includes a database of patient admission records - from the Hospital’s first in-patient in 1852 to the last admission in 1914; a collection of articles on the early history of the Hospital and pen-portraits of the Hospital’s personalities; and a gallery of images.

Browse around the site to discover its treasures. Better still, register now. It costs nothing, and registered users get access to more detailed information and the ability to print and download results of searches.

Then there is a piece about one of the patients.  There is also a quick search box.

Lizzie
Title: Re: Great Ormond Street Hospital - admission records database
Post by: stonechat on Friday 18 July 08 12:13 BST (UK)
THe site and searches work for me. It just finishes too early for my Dad to be in though

Bob
Title: Re: Great Ormond Street Hospital - admission records database
Post by: BuddysMummy on Friday 18 July 08 12:24 BST (UK)
The original link works perfectly for me.

How odd.
Title: Re: Great Ormond Street Hospital - admission records database
Post by: bevbee on Friday 18 July 08 13:52 BST (UK)
Working perfectly for me - and very, very interesting.  :D
Title: Re: Great Ormond Street Hospital - admission records database
Post by: sandiep on Friday 18 July 08 21:15 BST (UK)
original link works for me..............I only read rest of thread after spending a while on site.....................didnt find any definate rellies but some of stories are interesting and some of diseases............not many case histories but there are some............worth a look

sandie