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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Norfolk => Topic started by: HilaryW on Thursday 08 November 07 16:45 GMT (UK)
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I have come to a halt in my searches about my g.g. grandfather and am hoping that someone can help.
The family knew him as John Hammond, but when I found his marriage certificate he is shown as being John Hammond Joyce, son of Robert Hammond.
In the census returns 1851 to 1891 he is shown as John Hammond, born about 1835 in Billingford, Norfolk.
In the 1841 census, I think this might be him –
HO107/763/2/12/18 – Bawdeswell, Norfolk
Name Age Occupation Birth Place
Mary Joice 30 Norfolk
John Joice 6 Scholar Norfolk
William Joice 1 Norfolk
Robert Hammond 25 Ag labourer Norfolk
Alice Buchan 70 Ind Norfolk
I also have a marriage certificate for a Robert Hammond (Labourer, father John Hammond) and Mary Josh (spinster, no father listed) on 1 Nov 1844 at Worthing, Norfolk, which may fit with the later census entries –
1851 Worthing, Norfolk
HO107/1825/501/7
Name Related Age Occupation Birth Place
Robert Hammond Head 39 Ag labourer Worthing, Norfolk
Mary Hammond Wife 41 Gately, Norfolk
John Hammond Son 15 Tan Yard Servant Billingford, Norfolk
Robert Hammond Son 8 Scholar Bawdeswell, Norfolk
Ann Hammond Dau 5 Scholar Worthing, Norfolk
Elizabeth Hammond Dau 3 Worthing, Norfolk
A few years ago I wrote to the Norfolk Record Office and they did a search of the baptism registers of Billingford near Dearham for 1834 – 1838, but could not find an entry for John Hammond/Joyce.
Any ideas about where I go from here would be greatly appreciated.
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As they are living in Bawdeswell in 1841 maybe you should search the parish records for there? you will be able to order the films for a couple of quid.
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=localitysearch&columns=*,0,0
Pauline
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Thanks Pauline.
I think that some wider researches are needed.
Hilary
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Hello
Robert Hammond and Mary Joice are my great-great-grandparents.
Best regards
Dumpling2025
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Just in case
Mary Joice was baptised 21 May 1809 at Gately (base child) daughter of Ellzabeth
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John Hammond Joice was baptised 19 July 1835 at Billingford son of Mary Joice -spinster
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Hi amondg and Dumpling2025
Thank you for the information amondg.
I haven't logged on for a while, so missed your reply Dumpling2025, sorry. Do get in touch if you think I can help with your researches.
Hilary
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amondg
Thank you for your interest.
Re. Mary Joice, I did have that information but I didn't know what is meant by the term "base child". Having researched that term I now know what it means so thank you for helping to improve my general knowledge. The fact that she was illegitimate, with her father being unknown, leaves a big hole in my comprehensive family tree, but sadly that's the way it's destined to be.
Re. John Hammond, he's my great-granduncle so your information about his baptism has allowed me to carry out further research on him, and so improve my family tree. Thank you for that.
Best regards
Dumpling2025
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Hilary W
So we're related, our common ancestors being Robert Hammond & Mary Joice, my great-great-grandparents and your great-great-great-grandparents. Interesting! Thank you for your kind offer, I may contact you directly.
Best regards
Dumpling2025