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Title: Doherty/Tea dealer/ Belfast 1907
Post by: em26 on Tuesday 06 November 07 12:26 GMT (UK)
Hello,

I thought i would see if anyone could help me on this thread.
I am looking for some information on the profession of my gg grandfather.
His name was Charles Doherty and he was a Tea Dealer in Belfast i have him as working at 1 Exchange Buildings,Waring street in Belfast in 1907.
Also if anyone can confirm the profession of his son Joseph Doherty dob 1883 that would be great,  i have quite a few possibilites for him... stone cutter,tailor, rope spinner or grocer.
Any help greatly appreciated
Thank you
Title: Re: Doherty/Tea dealer/ Belfast 1907
Post by: scotmum on Wednesday 07 November 07 11:08 GMT (UK)
Well, until someone with more knowledge on the subject comes along, I would imagine that as such places as the Nambarrie Tea Company Limited, which was founded in Belfast in 1860, were in operation, then deliveries of the raw product were probably received via the ships coming into the Harbour and so possibly sales of the goods to various interested parties took place at the Exchange.
Title: Re: Doherty/Tea dealer/ Belfast 1907
Post by: scotmum on Wednesday 07 November 07 11:11 GMT (UK)
Forgot to say, the following site has lots of interesting general info on tea, including an article about tea smuggling:

http://www.tea.co.uk/index.php?pgId=6

And for a modern day picture of the then business premises:

http://www.victorianweb.org/art/architecture/lanyon/4.html
Title: Re: Doherty/Tea dealer/ Belfast 1907
Post by: em26 on Wednesday 07 November 07 11:46 GMT (UK)
Hi Scotmum,

Thank you very much for your message and suggestions i will have a look at the links you posted.
I actually contacted Nambarrie to see if they had any records of Charles but unfortunaltey they were unable to help me.
Thanks again for your help
Emily
Title: Re: Doherty/Tea dealer/ Belfast 1907
Post by: em26 on Wednesday 07 November 07 11:51 GMT (UK)
Just wanted to say thank you for link to the picture of what would have been the exchange building. It was great to see where he would have worked.
Thankyou !!!!!
Emily
Title: Re: Doherty/Tea dealer/ Belfast 1907
Post by: scotmum on Wednesday 07 November 07 13:16 GMT (UK)
Glad you found the links interesting. Maybe someone will be able to add further info for you later. Meantime, Bear in mind that Belfast would have been a 'wholesale' centre, with the access to the docks leading to much importing and exporting of goods, so most possible that your ancestor was not actually working for the likes of Nambarrie or Punjana tea.
Title: Re: Doherty/Tea dealer/ Belfast 1907
Post by: aghadowey on Wednesday 07 November 07 15:42 GMT (UK)
Also had relatives involved in tea trade in Northern Ireland but not in Belfast. Many firms were involved in blending, packaging and selling of tea.
Title: Re: Doherty/Tea dealer/ Belfast 1907
Post by: em26 on Wednesday 07 November 07 16:26 GMT (UK)
Hi Aghadowey,

Thank you for your message.
Did you have much luck tracing details of your ancestors from their trade?
I am starting to realise that (as you said) due to the amount of firms involved in the tea trade i think i may have a hard time tracing my gg grandfather's proffession.
But i am keeping my fingers crossed!
Title: Re: Doherty/Tea dealer/ Belfast 1907
Post by: scotmum on Wednesday 07 November 07 17:16 GMT (UK)
Can I ask,  how did you find him working at the location in 1907? Is it noted in a directory or otherwise?
Title: Re: Doherty/Tea dealer/ Belfast 1907
Post by: aghadowey on Wednesday 07 November 07 18:25 GMT (UK)
Did you have much luck tracing details of your ancestors from their trade?
I am starting to realise that (as you said) due to the amount of firms involved in the tea trade i think i may have a hard time tracing my gg grandfather's proffession.
My husband had 2 great-uncles working in tea trade as young boys and younger one died of lung disease (tuberculosis?) said to be from the tea dust. Older boy took ill and went to England, we presume for his health, but died there from the same thing.
Other relatives were tea dealers and we know quite a bit about them- have old wills, etc. Didn't have much bother tracing them as they were in directories, etc.
Title: Re: Doherty/Tea dealer/ Belfast 1907
Post by: em26 on Thursday 08 November 07 08:49 GMT (UK)
Hi Scotsmum,

A very kind lady from the GR site came up with that information for me and a very helpful lady called Briege from this forum confirmed those details by checking the Mary Lennon street directory which came up with Charles's profession and had him working at the exchange buildings in 1907.

Prior to receiving this information from the lady from Genes Reunited i only had details on my great grandfather Edmond who was Charles's Son and she unexpectedly provided me with information on his parents and siblings which started me on the route to research Charles life.
Title: Re: Doherty/Tea dealer/ Belfast 1907
Post by: aghadowey on Thursday 10 March 11 09:06 GMT (UK)
Going through older posts and came across this one. By now you might have been able to find more information but if you haven't done so the following might be of interest.

The 1901 and 1911 census are now online. Here's Charles Doherty, tea dealer, in 1901 census- son Joseph listed as 'tea merchant' so probably working with father:
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Windsor_Ward/Wellington_Park/977600