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Some Special Interests => Travelling People => Topic started by: kopperknob on Monday 05 November 07 13:02 GMT (UK)
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Hello i need help Looking for William Lee not sure where or when he was born But i do know he had a daughter Eliza Ann b 1851 Eversley Hampshire She had a Aunt who was GEORGINA LEE who married WELLINGTON DRAPER I know this because she is living with them on 1871 census If thats right i think her grandad may be Charles Lee b 1795 where i dont know but i do know he died in Eversley Hampshire But her father William i cannot find him anywhere likewise her mum can anyone help Please Regards Jane
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Am confused, in 1871 Wellington is married to Elizabeth, not Georgina (also Elizabeth is wife in 1881, hes a widower in 1891 and 1901). Was she also known as Elizabeth?? :-\
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Thanks for the following message, I'll post it here so anyone who want to help knows whats going on too -
Georgeina Lee married Wellington Draper in 1854 Eversley Hampshire on 1871 GORGEINA DRAPER was in asylum with what i think is her daughter Elizabeth Rawlins his is (2ND WIFE) BUT THERE IS NO RECORD OF HIM MARRING HER Regards Jane
Catherine :)
(I found her in an asylum in 1861 in Fareham, but not 1871, guess shes mistranscribed)
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I've got some Hampshire roots with 'Lee' Romany connections. My Great-Great-Great Grandfather was called George Lee, born 1838 in South Stoneham, Southampton. Family legend has it that he married a Scottish wife and had a gypsy caravan with a grey pony. I have no idea how to confirm the truth of this!
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I have a James Lee, horse dealer, whose dau Sincer Roseler Lee married into my Samwell circus family. She was born about 1826 in Lambeth.
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Hi Kopperknob
I have some info for you on Georgina Lee and Wellington Draper. (Drapers are my special interest!) Expect you've seen the marriage entry for these two in Eversley where her father's name is given as Charles Lee, tinker. (If not, let me know and I'll send the full details.)
She and Wellington had a son Job baptised at Barkham, Berks, on 14 Aug 1859 where they are described as 'Gypsies harvesting at Barkham'. But sadly Georgina was admitted to the County Lunatic Asylum at Fareham only two weeks later. She was there till 13 June 1861 and then transferred to the Oxford Asylum at Littlemore. I've seen her case notes at the Hampshire Record Office but haven't been able to follow her up in the Oxford records yet. Strangely, I've also been unable to find a death certificate for her so far.
So I think this means that the Elizabeth with Wellington Draper in the 1871 census is a different partner. If Georgina is still alive, then obviously Wellington couldn't have officially married Elizabeth because he'd have to commit bigamy to do so. The two Rawlins boys also in the household are, I believe, sons of Elizabeth's by a previous marriage to a Rawlins (they're called Sons in Law in the census record - at the time this was the term used for 'stepson'.)
Which brings us to Eliza Lee (described at Niece of Wellington) and the baby Stephen who I assume is hers?
Could she be the Eliza Ann bp 21 Sept 1851 at Barkham, Berks, dau of Henry Lee and Elizabeth - Henry being the son of Charles Lee and therefore brother to Georgina? This info comes from the new book on the south country Lees (Hants, Kent, Sussex etc) published recently by the Romany & Traveller Family History Society. There's no William son of Charles in the tree in the book - so perhaps 'Henry' was also known as 'William' or vice versa?
Hope this helps!
Sharon
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Just to help you in tracking down the death of Charles Lee: he was still alive at the time that Georgina Draper/Lee was committed to the Lunatic Asylum in 1861. Her case notes record that she was in the care of her husband and father before her admittance. They were in the Odiham/Dogmersfield area of Hampshire at the time.
Sharon