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Title: 1861 census - George W Wareham b 1854 London
Post by: gazania on Sunday 04 November 07 12:15 GMT (UK)
Hi,

Please, I would like a lookup in the 1861census for George William WAREHAM whose birth was registered Dec qtr 1854, Strand MDX.  I am hoping his parents are William Wareham and Mary Ann and he could have two older sisters at least.  Thank you, Gazania
Title: Re: 1861 census - George W Wareham b 1854 London
Post by: Cazay on Sunday 04 November 07 12:29 GMT (UK)
Hi Gazania

A George W Wareham aged 6 is a scholar, along with other students of different names in the household of a Warehouseman, so not much help to find out the parents names.

Cazay
Title: Re: 1861 census - George W Wareham b 1854 London
Post by: wozzle on Sunday 04 November 07 12:30 GMT (UK)
1861 RG9/23/6/11.
david.m.moss age 28. b. canterbury. occ. warehouseman. head.(married)
kate steggall age 23. b. finningham,suffolk. sister-in-law.(unmarried)
jeannie morrison age 23. b. banff,scotland. visitor.
evelina parker age 16. b. watterfield,suffolk. servant.
samuel.b.baker age 8. b. dover,kent. scholar.
richard cunningham age 5. b. brighton,sussex. scholar.
charles cunningham age 4. b. brighton,sussex. scholar.
george.w.wareham. age 6. b. kingsland,middx. scholar.
living at 4,george street,hammersmith,middx.
Title: Re: 1861 census - George W Wareham b 1854 London
Post by: Necromancer on Sunday 04 November 07 12:36 GMT (UK)
Theres two in 1861, born circa 1854 in that overall part of London...

one actually born Marylebone, but mother is a Sarah ...

t'other lad is a George W. - scholar - born Kingsland, Middx, so not sure on that as a PoB !

He is in is in Hammersmith, but in a private house headed by a David Moss, from Canterbury. He is a Warehouseman, so its not a school ?

RG9/23; Folio: 6; Page: 11

lets see if we can find the parents ...
Title: Re: 1861 census - George W Wareham b 1854 London
Post by: wozzle on Sunday 04 November 07 12:41 GMT (UK)
could be the parents
RG9/176/138/33.
Title: Re: 1861 census - George W Wareham b 1854 London
Post by: gazania on Sunday 04 November 07 12:55 GMT (UK)
Thank you, Wozzle,Newf,Cazay.

Strange to farm kids out so early.  Could I be cheeky and ask for a lookup in the 1871 census.  I cannot find GW in the 1881 census but then I eventually found his socalled parents under the spelling of Wenham in the 1881 census.  I want to be sure GW belongs to the family before I invest in a birth cert.

GW marries in 1882 Wandsworth SRY to a lady who could be his sister's husband's sister.  GW & wife then goes to New Zealand.  Gazania
Title: Re: 1861 census - George W Wareham b 1854 London
Post by: Necromancer on Sunday 04 November 07 18:08 GMT (UK)
cant see him in '71 or '81 .... if it wasnt for the fact that you have his marriage and emmigration I'd be tempted by a couple of Death Index entries in Westminster & St G Hanover Square pre-1861 census date !

Do you have the marriage Cert ? His occupation 1882 might help find him in 1881 if its at all unusual ?

1881 is about the only census searchable on ocupation ...

 :)
Title: Re: 1861 census - George W Wareham b 1854 London
Post by: gazania on Sunday 04 November 07 21:46 GMT (UK)
Thank you, Newf,

You have confirmed for me that GW is not on the 1871 or 1881 censuses or not readily found. That is at least step one.  According to various family stories, the socalled parents had 15 children all named with approx dates of birth.  Yet I can only find  some daughters living with the parents in any of the census. !5 birth certs would break the bank.  The huge Wareham family is very complicated and spread over the world. 

But thank you.  You have been a great help. Gazania
Title: Re: 1861 census - George W Wareham b 1854 London
Post by: Simon007 on Monday 26 December 11 23:08 GMT (UK)
Hi Gazania, 

We were in contact a couple of years ago re my BIRD family.

You may well have all the answers by now as it is 4 years since your post.  George W Wareham was on the 1871 census as "George W Warsham" with parents William and Mary Ann.

On the 1861 census he was just 6 and a scholar living away from home.  I have his parents on the 1861 census and he is definitely not with them.

George W Wareham married Jessie Devereaux Harry in Surrey 1882.  I haven't found him on the 1881 census.  Both George and Jessie emigrate to New Zealand and have children born in NZ from 1883.

Let me know if you are missing any information as I have a lot on the Wareham family both in England and New Zealand.

Simon 
Title: Re: 1861 census - George W Wareham b 1854 London
Post by: gazania on Tuesday 27 December 11 05:57 GMT (UK)
Hi Simon,

Thanks for making contact again.  We have certainly advanced our searches a long way since 2007 particlarly since the online indexes have become available. I'll review my Wareham research in the New Year and see where we now stand.  Best wishes for 2012. Gazania
Title: Re: 1861 census - George W Wareham b 1854 London
Post by: Sr Salchicha on Wednesday 06 February 13 02:02 GMT (UK)
Hi Gazania,

George William Wareham is/was my 2nd great grandfather. My grandfather used to tell me that George came out to NZ in 1879 with his brother, and then returned to England to marry Jessie at Wandsworth on 6 July 1882, then again returning to NZ in 1882 where they settled in Taranaki.

I believe this is the reason that you can't find GWW in the census of 1881 as he was in NZ or returning to England.
Title: Re: 1861 census - George W Wareham b 1854 London
Post by: gazania on Wednesday 06 February 13 04:15 GMT (UK)
Hi, it's great to make contact with another Wareham relative.  Thank you for that piece of information about GWW returning from New Zealand to marry Jessie.  I have recently done a lot of research to find that Jessie and her brother,  Edward Wareham HARRY, married their second cousins.  Do you want to some more information?  Gazania.
Title: Re: 1861 census - George W Wareham b 1854 London
Post by: Sr Salchicha on Wednesday 06 February 13 09:53 GMT (UK)
Would love all the info you care to give. I have photos of GWW and JDH and their 5 children on a bush picnic at Oakura in Taranaki, NZ if you would like a copy of that.