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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Lincolnshire => Topic started by: daz68 on Sunday 04 November 07 09:45 GMT (UK)
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Hello
I am researching my Markham family history and would like to know about a pub called The Kings Head in Caistor (see newspaper article below). A relative of mine, Philip Markham, was killed in a fight in this establishmnet in January 1855. Is the pub still standing? Does anyone have any historical details on the pub? In particular looking for a feel for what sort fo place it would have been in 1855 and any photos.
Many thanks
Darren
LINCOLNSHIRE CHRONICLE
January 12th 1855
CAISTOR - On Saturday night, the 6th inst., Philip Markham and William Brumpton of
Grasby with several others were drinking together at the house of William Hartley, The Kings Head, Caistor, where Markham and Brumpton quarrelled and went in to the yard to fight when it appears Brumpton struck Markham a blow upon the head and Markham fell down and almost immediately expired. An Inquest was held over the body at the 8th inst. before Mr G Marris, coroner, when a verdict of Manslaughter was returned and William Brumpton was fully committed to take his trial at the next Assizes.
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It seems as if the place is still there - but now a wine bar. http://www.caistor.free-online.co.uk/caistorwalkabout.htm
I wonder if this is the place - do you have an address?
http://www.mylocalservices.co.uk/Lincolnshire/Wine_Bars/924085/Caistor_Wine_Bar.html
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The Kings Head did become the wine bar in South St Caistor for a few years, but has now reverted to being the Kings Head again. I am trying to find out a bit more for you in some local books, but will have to get back after the festive season!
Happy Christmas, Vivien.
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Many thanks Geo and Vivien (and Merry Xmas!).
Vivien - I'd love to know whatever else you can find out...I know nothing about the pub (past or present).
Best regards
Darren
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Hi Darren,
I am still on the case! ...but I am going via my brother who lives in Caistor and has access to a lot of local knowledge; he is going to look up any references to the Kings Head in his lot of local books as well as speak to some older members of the community. Meanwhile have you seen the website of Curious Fox who has someone looking up what seems to be the same family (of course that could be you!) and a Caistor Community History group on there that seems to need a challenge! Just a thought. Let you know when my brother finally surfaces with some information. If nothing else comes of this I can always take a current photo of the Kings Head if you wish, as I am up there to visit in March.
Vivien.
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I have received a couple of pages of details re The Kings Head, one being a list of owners, and one a list of landlords if you are interested in those. No old photograph has yet emerged, but current ones are being taken for you.
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MANY MANY thanks for your help Vivien. I have emailed directly to your Hotmail address.
darren
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Came across this by accident, but the William Brumpton mentioned here was my gt,gt,gt. grandfather. I'm pretty sure that Phillip Markham and my ancestor were good friends before this incident and that the families were reconciled afterwards. Certainly they are buried close together in Grasby churchyard. I researched it further and the crown court report stated that the prosecution offered no evidence and the judge found the prisoner 'not guilty'. Interestingly Charles Tennyson d'Enycourt , uncle of the Vicar of Grasby (Charles Tennyson Turner) was on the grand jury for this case.
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Thanks for your email William. Amazing to think that generations later both families are still 'talking'. I would love to have scans of any articles/documents you have related to this case. My side of the family had no knowledge of the incident until I received a copy of Phillips death certificate which described the cause of his death,
Regards
Darren
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Hi Darren,
I agree it is mind boggling that descendants from both families are discussing this incident 158 years later.
Unfortunately I don't think I have much more than you already have. My mother has recorded that her grandfather told her that "one of our ancestors was tried for murder after knocking a man down. This man hit his head on the floor and died and our ancestor was acquitted."
It was only after I came across the report in the Lincolnshire Chronicle that I realised who it was. I found the report of the trial in the Stamford Mercury dated March 16th 1855 - which I assume you have?
I have inherited quite a few of William Brumpton's (1810-1886) possessions, including his notebooks filled with his business dealings (cattle etc) but I haven't found any reference to this incident.
Did you manage to find any old photos of the Kings Head? I walked through Caistor yesterday and it is now, sadly, a dress shop & the sign has been removed.
Regards,
William
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William Scott, were you expecting to see the King's Head sign on your visit? I don't think the property has had that name since Victorian times. I have lived in the area 77 years and have seen the demise of several pubs but the King's Head was not one of them!