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Title: Hi All, Help please
Post by: scrumpyjack on Saturday 03 November 07 23:27 GMT (UK)
Can you help please Help me try and find his sons my Gr/Unl Harold Edward Skinner and family emigrated to Winnipeg Manitoba he enlisted in 1915 and  was  at Stonewall Manitoba When he in listed under Edward Skinner, i have records of this.

I have him on the 1911 Census for Winnipeg, his wife Emily was from ireland born 1877 and Harold was born in 1877 england  poss date +- 5 years.

their first son Harold Edward Skinner born in the UK,  his 2nd Patrick F Skinner born in the UK, thy are on the 1911 Census with sisters and the last address i have for Harold is Just the towns name Stonewall.
 can you help me please with any info thanks ke
Title: Re: Hi ALL HELP PLEASE
Post by: Janice M on Sunday 04 November 07 20:58 GMT (UK)
Welcome to Rootschat!

I know you have this information, but I am putting on here so that others can see the information. (it sometimes makes it easier)

1911 Census

Living at 363 York, Winnipeg, Manitoba - Occupation Accountant

http://www.automatedgenealogy.com/census11/Test16.jsp?id=33570


Attestation Papers

Living in Stonewall, Manitoba - Occupation Bank Accountant

http://data2.archives.ca/cef/gat2/098256a.gif
http://data2.archives.ca/cef/gat2/098256b.gif

Children:
Harold Edward (Birth: 1903)
Patrick F. (Birth: 1904)
Eileen M. (Birth: 1910)


Janice
Title: Re: Hi ALL HELP PLEASE
Post by: Janice M on Sunday 04 November 07 21:04 GMT (UK)
Their son Harold Edward Skinner died in British Columbia.

Death:

Name:     Harold Edward Skinner
Date:       December 16th, 1966 
Age:        63
Place:    Essondale

This could be Patrick also in British Columbia.

Death:

Name:     Patrick Francis Skinner
Date:       February 10th, 1976
Age:        71
Place:    Victoria

Information was found on the B.C. Archives Site.

British Columbia Archives
http://www.bcarchives.gov.bc.ca/sn-118D034/index.htm

B.C. Cemetery Finding Aid
http://www.islandnet.com/bccfa/

Janice
Title: Re: Hi All, Help please
Post by: Janice M on Sunday 04 November 07 22:05 GMT (UK)
Manitoba

Cemetery Listings

Lots of Skinner's
http://winnipeg.ca/ppd/cemeteries/brookside/brooksidesi_soz.html

Janice
Title: Re: Hi All, Help please
Post by: scrumpyjack on Sunday 04 November 07 23:04 GMT (UK)
Manitoba

Cemetery Listings

Lots of Skinner's
http://winnipeg.ca/ppd/cemeteries/brookside/brooksidesi_soz.html

Janice

Hi From Kevin A Big Thank you . :)my Mothers Uncle was quite a character ? i will post the story on the site he did live with my mother for few years and my mum was very fond of him. he was definately a traveller and after ww1 went back to Canadia and road the rails for a time then went travelling all over. poss the world and came back to the uk on his own.will post more on his story sad at times and he was also a bad lad but nice as well??

kev 
Title: Re: Hi All, Help please
Post by: scrumpyjack on Monday 05 November 07 00:00 GMT (UK)
Manitoba

Cemetery Listings

Lots of Skinner's
http://winnipeg.ca/ppd/cemeteries/brookside/brooksidesi_soz.html

Janice

Hi From Kevin A Big Thank you . :)my Mothers Uncle was quite a character ? i will post the story on the site he did live with my mother for few years and my mum was very fond of him. he was definately a traveller and after ww1 went back to Canadia and road the rails for a time then went travelling all over. poss the world and came back to the uk on his own.will post more on his story sad at times and he was also a bad lad but nice as well??

kev 


Short report
 Harold Edward Skinner Born July 1877 Barnsbury Middlesex. birth rec Sep 
 1881 Cnsus 33 Barkworth Road Camberwell Surrey
 1901 Cnsus 41 Fernhead Road Paddingtonoct
 1902 marriage 
 1903 marriage Emily Daniells b1877
 1903 Edward born
 1904 Patrick ??
 1907 was accontant for cleveland asylum (now Middlesex Hospital)
 1907 oct 25 Old Baily at Age 30 guilty 18 months in Pentonville prison
 Believed to be paid to leave for canada??
 Believed to be a Freemason
 Believed to work for the Hudson Bay Co ????
 was in the Canadian Army ww1 Belived to be RSM?? in the Princess Patricia Canadian Light Infantry  Military enlistment 11 Dec 1915 age 38     number 721224  Canadan Army over-seas experditonry force
 Visited family in uk on Christmas bought nuts, fruit and a dresses.
poss in the 1920 riding the rod,s all round Canada believed?
he was A Naturist.

Title: Re: Hi All, Help please
Post by: J.J. on Monday 05 November 07 02:51 GMT (UK)
The 1911 did say that he worked as an accountant for a Department store, so it could well have been the Hudson's Bay retail store. Can check the directories for the era, if you wish...as he might have stated the place of employ...or he may just have put Dept. store as in census...
I have some search requests, so I will get down to the leg. library sometime soon...

Haha...the old bank in Stonewalll, pretty old building, but I think it was a coffehouse last time I was there!! Lovely little town, by the way.
 J.J.
Title: Re: Hi All, Help please
Post by: Janice M on Monday 05 November 07 03:51 GMT (UK)
My mistake  :P  Not "Bank". It says "Book Keeper - Accountant"

Patrick Francis Skinner according to the FreeBMD was born in the 2nd Quarter of 1904 in Pancras.

According to the census he was born in March 1904.

I imagine that Harold Edward Skinner was the one born in Hendon in 1st Quarter of 1903?

Marriage in 3rd Quarter of Harold Edward Skinner & Emily Daniells.

1881 Census

# 33 Barkworth Rd
Camberwell, Surrey, England 

Francis SKINNER   
Head     
Age: 39   
Birthplace: Worcester, England   
Occupation: Commercial Clerk     

Eliza SKINNER   
Wife 
Age: 24   
Birthplace: Camden Town, Middlesex, England       

Edith SKINNER   
Daughter     
Age: 5   
Birthplace: Islington, Middlesex, England       

Harold E. SKINNER   
Son     
Age: 3   
Birthplace: Barnsbury, Middlesex, England 



1901 Census England

Harold E Skinner
Age: 22
Where Born: Islington London
Administrative County: Middlesex
Civil Parish: Paddington
Occ: General Clerk In Poor Saw Institerer


Emily Daniells
Age: 24
Where Born: Ireland Dublin
Administrative County: London
Civil Parish: Saint Pancras
Occ: Local Nurse Hospital

Title: Re: Hi All, Help please
Post by: Janice M on Monday 05 November 07 05:17 GMT (UK)
Here are some links that might interest you.

Stonewall, Manitoba
http://www.stonewall.ca/residents/notices.asp?ID=101

Hudson's Bay Company Archives
http://www.gov.mb.ca/chc/archives/hbca/index.html

Books
Ourroots
http://www.ourroots.ca/

Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry
http://www.ppcli.com/

The Times
Saturday, Aug 24, 1907 pg. 7
Saturday, Aug 24, 1907; pg. 12
Monday, Sep 02, 1907; pg. 15
Monday, Sep 16, 1907; pg. 11
Monday, Sep 16, 1907; pg. 16
Saturday, Sep 28, 1907; pg. 9
Saturday, Oct 26, 1907

(If you would like copies of these let me know)


Military Cross
Friday, Feb 14, 1919; pg. 11

Anatomy School Mystery
Monday, Apr 06, 1925; pg. 9

Janice
Title: Re: Hi All, Help please
Post by: scrumpyjack on Tuesday 06 November 07 20:34 GMT (UK)
 ;D :) ;)a big big thank you Janice thank you for all you have done it was very nice of you.


 :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Hi All, Help please
Post by: scrumpyjack on Wednesday 07 November 07 00:17 GMT (UK)
The 1911 did say that he worked as an accountant for a Department store, so it could well have been the Hudson's Bay retail store. Can check the directories for the era, if you wish...as he might have stated the place of employ...or he may just have put Dept. store as in census...
I have some search requests, so I will get down to the leg. library sometime soon...

Haha...the old bank in Stonewalll, pretty old building, but I think it was a coffehouse last time I was there!! Lovely little town, by the way.
 J.J.


Thank you J.J the info you posted was of  8) ;D :) if you get more info please let me no ke.
Title: Re: Hi All, Help please
Post by: Janice M on Wednesday 07 November 07 04:01 GMT (UK)
More articles from the London Times.

Saturday, Sep 28, 1907; pg. 4
Monday, Oct 07, 1907; pg. 3
Thursday, Oct 24, 1907; pg. 13
Saturday, Oct 26, 1907; pg. 9
Saturday, Oct 26, 1907; pg. 12

I don't know if a Thomas Hewitt Skinner is yours or not, but found him in the Times, working for the Hudson's Bay Company.

Hudsons' Bay Company – Thomas Hewitt Skinner
Wednesday, Jun 24, 1925; pg. 24

The Canadian Pacific Railway – Thomas Skinner
The Times, Friday, Oct 09, 1903; pg. 3

If you would like any copies of the articles, send your email by personal message only and I will email them to you.

Janice
Title: Re: Hi All, Help please
Post by: scrumpyjack on Thursday 08 November 07 20:08 GMT (UK)
:) ;) ;D ???
don't no if you can help with Minnie Skinner / ???? Bouchard from i  believe Winnipeg???  thy had two Children
Yvonne And Penny
any info will help thanks.

also can you please help find info on the 108 Overseas Battalion from Canada ( i have looked but can not find ref for)

 thank you for your time
ke
Title: Re: Hi All, Help please
Post by: J.J. on Thursday 08 November 07 20:36 GMT (UK)
wow, nothing really on it...probably might find some books on it, but all there bacically is online is that it was a Manitoba Battalion ...signups in Selkirk...
again, maybe there is something at the leg library or local military museum....
Let you know if I find anything...

J.J.
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Here we go...will add what I find to this posting
http://news.webshots.com/photo/2814833300088221262wIZTKr
http://www.rootsweb.com/~ww1can/bat.htm

ooops, sorry, I had found a few things but realized they were not related to ww1...
Title: Re: Hi All, Help please update 16/11/07
Post by: scrumpyjack on Friday 16 November 07 20:01 GMT (UK)
Can you help please Help me try and find his sons my Gr/Unl Harold Edward Skinner and family emigrated to Winnipeg Manitoba he enlisted in 1915 and  was  at Stonewall Manitoba When he in listed under Edward Skinner, i have records of this.

I have him on the 1911 Census for Winnipeg, his wife Emily was from ireland born 1877 and Harold was born in 1877 england  poss date +- 5 years.

their first son Harold Edward Skinner born in the UK,  his 2nd Patrick F Skinner born in the UK, thy are on the 1911 Census with sisters and the last address i have for Harold is Just the towns name Stonewall.
 can you help me please with any info thanks ke


new info from re

Canadian Expeditionary Force Study Group
Dedicated to the Study of the Canadian Expeditionary Force

 Edward Skinner Number 721224 enlist 11 Dec 1915
and i can not find much on the 108th ,

   
108th Infantry Battalion: Selkirk and Manitoba Battalion
108th (Selkirk and Manitoba) Bn. Absorbed by the Canadian Reserve Bns.
108th Batt Lt.-Col. G.H. Bradbury 18-9-16 32 843 Selkirk, Man.
108th Olympic 18/09/1916 Halifax Liverpool 25/09/1916

on the ship the Olympic also;
107th Olympic 19/09/1916 Halifax Liverpool 25/09/1916
107th Batt Lt.-Col. Glen Campbell. 18-9-16 32 965 Winnipeg

13th Bde CFA Olympic 18/09/1916 Halifax Liverpool 25/09/1916

No. 6 Siege Battery Olympic 18/09/1916 Halifax Liverpool 25/09/1916

144th Olympic 18/09/1916 Halifax Liverpool 25/09/1916 Web
144th Batt Lt.-Col. A.W. Mor1ey 18-9-16 29 962 Winnipeg
97th Olympic 19/09/1916 Halifax Liverpool 25/09/1916 Web
97th Batt Lt.-Col. A.B. Clark 18-9-16 31 798 Toronto_
can you please help me find the 108th thank you
yours
Kevin angell

Hey Kevin-
I can offer a little more;
108th Battalion; Selkirk Overseas; Selkirk, Manitoba
mobilization authorized Nov. 4, 1915 in MD No. 10, G.O. 151.d/22-12-1915
embarked 18-9-1916
Left Canada from Halifax 19-9-1916, S,S. Olympic
Strength on leaving Canada 32 officers, 843 OR's
C/O G.H. Bradbury18-9-1916 to 15-12-1916
arrived England 25-9-1916 at Liverpool
arrived Witley Camp 25-9-1916
Recieved 251 OR's from 183 Battalion, Nov 1, 1916
Used as reinforcing unit until 10-1-1917 when absorbed by the 14th Reserve Battalion under Lt. Col. I.R. Snider,
14th Reserve Batt. absorbed by the 11th Reserve Batt, 15-9-1917 under Lt. Col Walker
disbanded 15-9-1920.
Here is the camp they trained at just east of Brandon, Manitoba, Canada.

Borden Battery

Camp Hughes Under Threat - Archaeological Protection Plan
Camp Hughes (formerly Camp Sewell, circa 1910) near Brandon, Manitoba (not to be confused with Camp Shilo) was utilized to train over 40,000 men for the CEF in the Great War. This 2004 document is a William Galbraith master's thesis [227 pages] from the University of Manitoba. It provides some excellent background, historic and modern photographs including aerial, maps and detailed discussions regarding the preservation of this unique historic Canadian military training base in western Manitoba. [A Broznitsky Recommendation][CEF Study Group - Feb 2006]
http://www.umanitoba.ca/institutes/natural_resources/canadaresearchchair/thesis/wgalbraith%20masters%20thesis%202004.pdf
  very good  blog site for the ww 1 :) ;D ;)
Canadian Expeditionary Force Study Group
Dedicated to the Study of the Canadian Expeditionary Force

and also a big thank you to all that have helped me

kevin
Title: Re: Hi All, Help please
Post by: J.J. on Wednesday 21 November 07 03:50 GMT (UK)
Went through many years of the Henderson Directory....

Only year there was a listing was 1912...
Skinner H.E    driver   Wm. Coates  68 Juno
Skinner Harold .E   clk   ( ?  res coding)  68 Juno

He may have already moved to Stonewall after this...as that was all I found for Wpg.   J.J.
Title: Re: Hi All, Help please
Post by: J.J. on Thursday 22 November 07 21:16 GMT (UK)
Found a document listing forSkinner, F.L.
1947, trip to Europe to obtain parent material for plant breeding
 so perhaps it was an offspring who was a horticulturist?
J.J.
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No I just found this on the internet, so not the same family http://siamandas.com/time_machine/PAGES/people_stories/FRANK_SKINNER.htm
Title: Re: Hi All, Help please
Post by: Janice M on Sunday 25 November 07 03:55 GMT (UK)
In case you don't already have this.

LAST NAME: BOUCHARD
GIVEN NAMES: MINNIE
DATE OF BIRTH: May 22nd, 1873
AGE: 53
DATE OF DEATH: October 24th, 1926
PLACE OF DEATH: Winnipeg

Manitoba Vital Statistics
http://web2.gov.mb.ca/cca/vital/Query.php

I couldn't find her marriage, or the births of her children. 

Janice
Title: Re: Hi All, Help please
Post by: Janice M on Sunday 25 November 07 04:23 GMT (UK)
More Skinner's in Saskatchewan.

Saskatchewan Vital Statistics
http://vsgs.health.gov.sk.ca/vsgs_srch.aspx

Hamiota Cemetery Index, Hamiota, Manitoba
"Skinner"
http://www.markers.com/community/hamiota/Cemetery/cemeteryS.htm

Scotia Cemetery Index, Hamiota, Manitoba
"Skinner"
http://www.markers.com/community/hamiota/Scotia/Cemetery/scotia%20cemeteryRS.htm

Minnie is buried in Brookside Cemetery in Winnipeg
http://www.winnipeg.ca/ppd/cemetery_brookside_alpha.stm

Janice
Title: Re: Hi All, Help please
Post by: Janice M on Thursday 06 December 07 03:41 GMT (UK)
Here is something else for you Skinner's.

Frank L Skinner
Master Plant Breeder & Horticulturalist
http://siamandas.com/time_machine/PAGES/people_stories/FRANK_SKINNER.htm


Title: Re: Hi All, Help please
Post by: J.J. on Tuesday 08 January 08 20:21 GMT (UK)
Found it!!! Free Press page 28...forgot to write down day of week, 1963...
Don't forget not to mention full names of those who may be living... ;D J.J.

Title: Re: Hi All, Help please
Post by: J.J. on Tuesday 08 January 08 20:35 GMT (UK)
Hmmmm...Going back to Janice's reply
MINNIE BOUCHARD
DATE OF BIRTH: May 22nd, 1873
AGE: 53
DATE OF DEATH: October 24th, 1926

There is something wrong with their dates.....as her parents were born around 1877....Good thing I looked in the actual cemetery listings ... How could this be so absolutely cock-eyed???
 ::)  J.J.