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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Nottinghamshire => England => Nottinghamshire Lookup Requests => Topic started by: Keith Sherwood on Thursday 01 November 07 23:14 GMT (UK)
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Hi, Everyone,
Have just been contacted on GenesReunited by someone who has provided new information on my gt-gt-gt-grandfather William FELLS who was born in 1795/6 in Elkesley - namely that he re-married in Babworth in 1859.
I am reviving my hunt for more details of what happened to him after the 1861 Census with his new wife Jane (nee RILEY) in Babworth. I cannot for the life of me find either a death entry or a burial entry. His first wife Mary died in 1855 and could well be buried in Babworth, where the family lived in both 1841 and 1851 Censuses, though I'm advised by my new contact that Clarborough or Retford might be a final resting place.
If anyone has come across his death, or has indeed stumbled across a FELLS grave with his name on it in the near locality, I would be very interested to hear about where his final resting place might be...
Very best wishes,
keith
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these are all the fells from east retford + a few from worksop who died between 1775 and 1871
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will keep looking. Very strange that there are no records of a william fells dieing that match with his birth year or any where near in the whole of england, not just nottinghamshire. Could his name have been misspelt?
Diane
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Diane,
My goodness me! And welcome to Rootschat...
You've been most industrious on my behalf here, even though William FELLS continues to be elusive. But I'm sure some of those FELLS entries will be useful in putting together as many pieces of the FELLS family jigsaw as possible.
Very many thanks, you're a star...
keith
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Hi,
its kinda bugging me aswell because jane riley/fells is abit of a mystery also. Cant find a father/mother or marriage cert for 1st marriage, not even sure there was one!
On her marriage cert to william fells it states her fathers name as thomas seaman but the writing is very unclear so am not sure. There dosent seem to be a thomas seaman so am abit stumped.
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Diane,
You seem to have done quite a lot of research in this area with this particular family. Is FELLS or RILEY one of the families you are personally researching? PM me if you'd prefer...
keith
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Hello Keith & Diane.... :)
Funny how things happen; I hadn’t been able to access Rootschat first thing this morning but before I went out I did notice your posts and as I was hoping to check out some marriage details at Clarborough as well as other searches, I thought I would keep a look out for your William Fells burial.
In the fiche index for the parish of Clarborough, it says; Clarborough “for burials, 3rd Feb 1865 – 12th Dec 1875; see Retford, St Saviour”.
Burials - East Retford, St Saviour.
WILLIAM FELL, abode – George Tan Yard? March 20th 1870, age 75 yrs, by Jas. W. K. Disney at St Saviours.
Burials - East Retford, St Saviour.
JANE FELLS, abode – Union, June 13th 1884, age 77 yrs, by L.D. Raworth, vicar.
Best Wishes
Sheila.
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Sheila,
That's incredible! What a stroke of luck for both myself and Diane. There's even an address at the time of their deaths - would "Union" perhaps mean the Workhouse, or have I got that completely wrong.
Thank you so much for bringing these two magically out of the hat...
Very best wishes,
Keith
N.B. I must get up to St Saviour's some time in the future and stand by the grave(s) if they're still there/legible. Maybe if Diane lives in the area she could go and have a look. Perhaps he and his second wife lie in the same grave, though in another example in my family an ancestor lies in the same grave as her first husband even though he pre-deceased her by 29 years. I suppose a will would direct the deceased's wishes...
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hi,
in 1881 jane fells/riley was living with edward riley and his family on east street, east retford but not sure where she was when she died. There were rileys from this family in the workhouse in 1901 though. william fells wasnt poverty stricken i dont think, he had listed living with him several servants over the years.
Diane
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Sheila,
William FELLS graduated from plain old ag lab to Farm Bailiff, so it would seem that he was doing quite well. What might have happened to his second wife Jane after he died I suppose could be open to speculation. Something definitely worth looking into - I've just read a fascinating book about the Workhouse by Simon Fowler through The National Archives, published this year, and it was quite extraordinary - and in many cases tragic - how family fortunes could fluctuate for all sorts of reasons...
One thing I'm curious about - could "George Tan Yard" possibly refer to perhaps a pub or inn called the George, with a tan yard adjoining, or in its grounds, as I've seen occasionally. Do you have quite a bit of local knowledge that might help with this?
keith
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So sorry, I'm getting Sheila and Diane mixed up, with such similar user names - Diddydi and Dizzyfish!
Can you blame me, plus I'm rather excited about these two burials turning up...?
keith
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Hello Keith,
Unfortunately I know very little of that part of Nottinghamshire, but I also wondered the same thing about George Tan Yard, many pubs and Inns had yards to the rear where people lived and worked hopefully someone on the Nott’s board might have some idea where it was.
I am fascinated by the workhouse and I wish I knew more about them, as you say circumstances change and once able people ended up there, perhaps they couldn’t be looked after by their own families?
I am pleased the burials were helpful.
Best Wishes
Sheila.
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Hello Keith,
It has been niggling me regarding the address for William Fells, I have looked at the 1871 census with Jane Fells living in Clarborough in George Inn Yard – RG10/3452/26, I now realise that the address is more likely to be George Inn Yard rather than what looked to me like Tan Yard on the burial register so should be “Inn” not Tan.
Best Wishes
Sheila.
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Sheila,
Thanks for poring over that location - I'll now see what I can find on a George Inn in Clarborough in the middle to late 19C. I love stumbling over new locations from the past, then trying to discover as much as one can about the place...
keith