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Title: PARSONS
Post by: orphanannie on Thursday 18 October 07 20:49 BST (UK)
Hi, All,

Well, this really is a long shot.  I am trying to find out about Ivy Langdon really, but I think she may have married William Parsons in 1912. I am led to believe that her husband was killed in WW1 and that they had a son  named Louvain.  The closest I have come to anything similar is a James Louvain Parsons who was born in Cornwall and died in 1985 in S Glamorgan, but that is all I have.

Can anyone shed any light on this, please.

Regards,
Annie.
Title: Re: PARSONS
Post by: Thamesite2017 on Friday 19 October 07 05:08 BST (UK)
You can search armed force deaths at places like
http://www.findmypast.com/OverseasStartSearchServlet?mode=A&searchType=D

The Free bmd entry appears to match, although at this stage one other male is one that page (Camelford district)
http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
Title: Re: PARSONS
Post by: nanny jan on Friday 19 October 07 09:02 BST (UK)
Hi Annie,

From FreeBMD:

Marriages:   Ivy F Langdon   Dec 1912   Camelford 5c  23

Groom:   William Parsons



Nanny Jan
Title: Re: PARSONS
Post by: deb usa on Friday 19 October 07 10:50 BST (UK)
Hi

There is also this birth:

Gertrude L C PARSONS ,Sept q 1913, Camelford, Cornwall vol 5c pg 21
mother's maiden name : LANGDON

I wonder if she could be another child of theirs.

deb :)
Title: Re: PARSONS
Post by: deb usa on Sunday 21 October 07 18:03 BST (UK)
Hi Annie

I see you have PROUTS in Cornwall too ... this is interesting...I am not sure if you have this but just in case:\

1901
Camelford, St Teath
Fern Villa

James Langdon head mar 60 Carter
Eliza wife mar 60
Eliza PROUT dau wid 32
John Langdon son s 21 slate quarry
Samuel Langdon son s 18
Runnell ? Langdon son s 12
IVY LANGDON gr daughter s 7 b St Teath
Frederic Prout dr son 4
Richard Prout gr son 2
Samuel Prout gr son 2 months

I cannot find a birth for Ivy langdon   :-\

The Marriage cert would give us the name of her dad....

deb :)
Title: Re: PARSONS
Post by: toni* on Sunday 21 October 07 18:11 BST (UK)
Ivy Sybil Langdon b. Q3 1895 Barton Regis 6a 50

could this be her?
Title: Re: PARSONS
Post by: toni* on Sunday 21 October 07 18:15 BST (UK)
there were these Parsons mmn. Langdon births maybe not all yours (1911-1920):~

Cecil L West Derby Q4 1914 8b 684
Edna M do. Q2 1920 8b 803
Gertrude L C Camelford Q3 1913 5c 21
Marjorie E H Exeter Q1 1920 5b 134



Title: Re: PARSONS
Post by: deb usa on Sunday 21 October 07 18:20 BST (UK)
Hi Toni  :)

I am not sure about Ivy sybil ... Nanny Jan had posted that an Ivy F Langdon married  William Parsons ...

In 1891
The family that I just posted also had a son William living with them. I found a marriage of William Langdon to either a Selina Dawe or elizabeth J May , dec q 1892, Camelford . I wonder if they were Ivy's parents ...will try to find them in 1901 , when Ivy is with her grandparents james and Eliza Langdon.

deb
Title: Re: PARSONS
Post by: deb usa on Sunday 21 October 07 18:27 BST (UK)
Hi

This is Ivy's family in 1891
St Teath
James LANGDON 51 slate quarryman
Eliza wife 50
William 24 slate quarryman
Beatrice dau 21 dressmaker
James son 18 slate Quarryman
John 12 scholar
Samuel
wilfred R gr son 2
Silas GILBERT lodger widow blacksmith b St Columb
Everyone else born St Teath

in 1901... John and Samuel are still with their parents ... so William, James or beatrice could be the parent of IVY ... what do you think ?

deb
Title: Re: PARSONS
Post by: deb usa on Sunday 21 October 07 18:49 BST (UK)
Hi again

i have been through the complete birth index for 1883/4/5 and CANNOT find Ivy F Langdon anywhere ....arrgghhhh

deb  :-\

added: No wonder I couldn't find her she was b c 1894 not '84 :-[ :-X

will look again

added: Nope nothing for !893/4/5 except Ivy Sybil , that Toni found !
Title: Re: PARSONS
Post by: toni* on Sunday 21 October 07 19:21 BST (UK)
i wasn't sure about the Ivy Sybil, the area was wrong but she was the only Langdon with Ivy in her name b. 1894-95 anywhere.

Title: Re: PARSONS
Post by: toni* on Sunday 21 October 07 19:23 BST (UK)
Hi

This is Ivy's family in 1891
St Teath
Silas GILBERT lodger widow blacksmith b St Columb


deb

just out of interest how old was Silas? i have a few Gilberts in my tree (not a line i researched yet but will keep him in mind)
Title: Re: PARSONS
Post by: deb usa on Sunday 18 November 07 16:14 GMT (UK)
 hi  ;D

back on the hunt for Ivy Langdon's parents...

...

In 1891
The family that I just posted also had a son William living with them. I found a marriage of William Langdon to either a Selina Dawe or elizabeth J May , dec q 1892, Camelford . I wonder if they were Ivy's parents ...will try to find them in 1901 , when Ivy is with her grandparents james and Eliza Langdon.

deb

It seems that the above William Langdon married Selina Dawe
1901
Tintagel
William Langdon head mar 34 retired quarryman slate b St teath (Spinal complaint)
Selina wife mar 37 b Tintagel
Bessie dau 2 b Tintagel  (b 1899 died sept q 1904, Camelford)

I wonder if Ivy belongs to them , as they were married in 1892 ...but only have Bessie b 1899)

will look further

deb :)

Title: Re: PARSONS
Post by: deb usa on Sunday 18 November 07 16:27 GMT (UK)
hi again


 
1901
Camelford, St Teath
Fern Villa

James Langdon head mar 60 Carter
Eliza wife mar 60
Eliza PROUT dau wid 32
John Langdon son s 21 slate quarry
Samuel Langdon son s 18
Runnell ? Langdon son s 12
IVY LANGDON gr daughter s 7 b St Teath
Frederic Prout dr son 4
Richard Prout gr son 2
Samuel Prout gr son 2 months

I cannot find a birth for Ivy langdon   :-\

The Marriage cert would give us the name of her dad....

deb :)

I wonder if Ivy could belong to Eliza Prout nee Langdon ? Eliza Langdon married frederick Chenoweth Prout Dec q 1896, Camelford. Ivy was born 1894..maybe illegitimate ?

In 1891, there is also a daughter , Beatrice Langdon. She married Samuel Lee Dec q 1893, unfortunately she seems to have died in June q 1895, camelford.

deb
Title: Re: PARSONS
Post by: deb usa on Sunday 18 November 07 17:44 GMT (UK)
Hi again

I have searched further back and there were other children who could possivly be Ivy's mum or dad...

1881
James Langdon 40
Eliza 39
Elizabeth 13
Beatrice 11
Mary Ann 10  (she married Joseph Tabb in 1889, by 1891 she is a widow)
James 9
Emily 8  (she married Thomas Lanxon , 1889) This name ties in with the other thread ...somehow  :-\
John T 2 ( he married Clarice Honey, 1902)

1871;
James  Langdon 32
Eliza 30
Rosanna 7   ( she married Thomas Smith  in 1882, Bodmin)
William G 4  (he married selina Dawe in 1892)
Elizabeth A 2  (she married Fred Prout)
Beatrice 1   (she married Samule Lee in 1893)
Mary A 5 months 

!861
James Langdon 21
Eliza 20   ( I think her maiden name was Honey)
William G 5 months

so who does Ivy belong to ?

deb ...
Title: Re: PARSONS
Post by: toni* on Sunday 18 November 07 18:54 GMT (UK)
them marriage cert will tell us her fathers name,

Hi Annie,

From FreeBMD:

Marriages: Ivy F Langdon Dec 1912 Camelford 5c 23

Groom: William Parsons



Nanny Jan
Title: Re: PARSONS
Post by: orphanannie on Sunday 18 November 07 19:41 GMT (UK)
Hi, again,
There is nothing for it but to send for the marriage cert.  It is the only way I will know for sure.
My uncle is adamant that she was the sister of Frederick Prout (son of Eliza in the 1901 census) but surely she would have the same name.
I know that Frederick was registered at birth as Langdon then his name was changed on his mother's marriage to Frederick Prout senior.  If Ivy was his sister then surely she would have done the same.
What a confusing family I have been born into  ???
Annie.
Title: Re: PARSONS
Post by: deb usa on Sunday 18 November 07 19:49 GMT (UK)
Annie mentioned on her other thread that someone had married a Lanxon

In my previous post ,,,we have Emily marrying Thomas Lanxon ...

In 1891...Emily and Thomas LANXON (27 mar, carpenter) are boarders in Penzance ...they are transcribed under the name LanYon.

in 1901;
Thomas Lanxon (37, carpenter, mar) and his son , Thomas S I Lanxon are lodgers with the Prouts. Can't find Emily !

what if Ivy is their child and been transcribed as Langdon and not Lanxon ...

deb
Title: Re: PARSONS
Post by: deb usa on Sunday 18 November 07 19:50 GMT (UK)
Annie ...I tend to think that she was the daughter of Eliza Prout ...


hi again


 
1901
Camelford, St Teath
Fern Villa

James Langdon head mar 60 Carter
Eliza wife mar 60
Eliza PROUT dau wid 32
John Langdon son s 21 slate quarry
Samuel Langdon son s 18
Runnell ? Langdon son s 12
IVY LANGDON gr daughter s 7 b St Teath
Frederic Prout dr son 4
Richard Prout gr son 2
Samuel Prout gr son 2 months

I cannot find a birth for Ivy langdon   :-\

The Marriage cert would give us the name of her dad....

deb :)

I wonder if Ivy could belong to Eliza Prout nee Langdon ? Eliza Langdon married frederick Chenoweth Prout Dec q 1896, Camelford. Ivy was born 1894..maybe illegitimate ?

deb
Title: Re: PARSONS
Post by: deb usa on Sunday 18 November 07 19:56 GMT (UK)
annie

Eliza Langdon married Frederick Prout dec q 1896. Frederick , the son was b c 1896/7 ...So he the son of Frederick Snr. Ivy is most probably Eliza's child but not Frederick's ..hence her surname was not changed ....

Frederick LANGDON ...dec 1896 , same quarter as Eliza married Frederick Prout

deb
Title: Re: PARSONS
Post by: deb usa on Sunday 18 November 07 20:16 GMT (UK)
here is the other link ... so that we do not repeat each others work  ;D

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,262814.0.html

deb
Title: Re: PARSONS
Post by: orphanannie on Tuesday 20 January 09 23:10 GMT (UK)
Hi, All,
I have finally solved the mystery!
Ivy Langdon was the daughter of Eliza Langdon - father unknown. 
The reason we had so much trouble finding her was that she was registered as Florence Harvey Heard Langdon.  I can only assume that somewhere along the line, Harvey has been mutated into Ivy (?)  She did marry as Ivy Florence Langdon.
One less headache for me. :)
Regards,
Annie.
Title: Re: PARSONS
Post by: deb usa on Tuesday 20 January 09 23:21 GMT (UK)
 ;D ;D ;D Good Job!!!!

sounds like there might have been a Harvey Heard running around in those days ....Looks like Eliza wanted him to be known LOL

deb :)
Title: Re: PARSONS
Post by: orphanannie on Tuesday 20 January 09 23:26 GMT (UK)
You are probably right
I have actually found one! :D
As yet, I have not gone too deep in to it, but it may be worth following up.
I am just so glad to know that I found Ivy at last (With a lot of help!)
Annie.
Title: Re: PARSONS
Post by: deb usa on Wednesday 21 January 09 00:44 GMT (UK)
Hi again


maybe the marriage cert would reveal a father's name ...that is if Eliza told her who her dad was!

deb
Title: Re: PARSONS
Post by: orphanannie on Wednesday 21 January 09 19:56 GMT (UK)
Hi, Deb,
I have Ivy's marriage cert.  There is a line through the box where her Father's name should be.
At least I now know for sure who her Mother was.
Regards,
Annie  :)
Title: Re: PARSONS
Post by: rectory on Friday 08 July 11 14:13 BST (UK)
I remember my dad talking about an auntie ivy and uncle bill parsons,will look it up for you ,
best wishes ,pat
Title: Re: PARSONS
Post by: rectory on Friday 08 July 11 14:17 BST (UK)
didnt see the date of your last post,so im too late,sorry