RootsChat.Com
Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Dumfriesshire => Topic started by: julieann1 on Thursday 18 October 07 08:26 BST (UK)
-
I am trying to identify people and places in an old photo album. The middle of these 3 photos is labelled Scrogg's Bridge. Does anyone recognise the pictures either side as being in that area? They were taken about 1928 or 29.
My Great Great uncle, David Stewart Bell died at Scroggs Mill, Dryfesdale in 1949, so that is a possible identification for the place and people, but I would like a little more evidence to back it up.
Julie
Opps, pictures are really wide - sorry, needs a lot of scrolling across to see all 3.
Moderator Comment: Photo's separated for easier viewing
-
Photo 3
-
This picture and the top 1st picture are of the same buliding and is still in immaculate condition. I used to live in the village of Bankshill which is approximately 5 miles from Lockerbie on the Lockerbie to Langholm road. Scroggs Bridge is about 1.5 miles outside of Lockerbie. Having looked at your ancestoral pictures I can say that not alot has changed apart from the middle picture showing the scene of the river looking up to the bridge. The buildings on the right would be part of the Old Mill. As I recall when I was growing up in that area those buildings were being renovated to there former glory. The Bridge still stands the same as do all the buildings in your pictures. As you look at the River/Bridge picture travelling to the right over the bridge would take you to Lockerbie a small market town and to the left the very small village of Bankshill with its own little Primary School. About 1 mile or so on the road to Bankshill is Tundergarth Church which sits just outside Tundergarth Mains which is a farm. In November I will be visiting my parents who live in Lockerbie. If you would like me to take some up to date photos of the Bridge, River and Buildings as they look now, I would be more than happy too. Please let me know.
Regards JDG's hubby.
-
Thanks. That would be great. Is the building Scroggs Mill, and is the one in the middle photo, by the bridge the same building? :)
Julie
-
The buildings are all seperate, but are side by side.
JDG tells me that in the library at Lockerbie there is quite a local history section, we'll have a look when we are up next month and see what we can discover. We'll also photograph the area for you, and I might get chance to do some fishing too!
Regards, JDG's hubby
-
We have been upto Scotland and taken some photos for you of Scroggs Bridge and the local area. The photos are loaded to :
http://www.flickr.com/photos/anglersrest/sets/72157603333186507/
Feel free to download any for your research files. :)
We didn't get chance to get to the library, but will be back in Lockerbie in January.
-
;D Thanks for taking the photos. They are great.
Julie
-
Your welcome! Next time I'm north of the border, I'll nip to the library for you.
-
Hi Julieann1
re Tweedie on your research list
I have just started research on tracing the Tweedie family from Lochmaben was wondering if Joseph Tweedie mar Janet Baird means anything to you.
Fiona
-
JDGS hubby
loved looking at the pictures of the Scroggs Bridge brought back great memories of when I lived in Lockerbie and we all walked to the Scroggs to go swimming and the Blue Eel memories of the library with the stuffed salmon but no memories of any books lol
Fiona
-
Fiona
I haven't got James Tweedie and Janet Baird on my tree. I think there are a couple of people who are tracing Tweedies, who use this board. It might be a good idea to start a new thread.
Julie
-
JDGS hubby
loved looking at the pictures of the Scroggs Bridge brought back great memories of when I lived in Lockerbie and we all walked to the Scroggs to go swimming and the Blue Eel memories of the library with the stuffed salmon but no memories of any books lol
Fiona
I'm not a great library fan, that's JDG. When we are in Lockerbie she is often in the library having a look though the local history section. Scroggs is lovely, very peaceful, but that main road through to Bankshill seems a fair bit of traffic now.
-
Fiona
I haven't got James Tweedie and Janet Baird on my tree. I think there are a couple of people who are tracing Tweedies, who use this board. It might be a good idea to start a new thread.
Julie
Perhaps a link to the new thread might be useful, and easy for other researchers to spot.
-
Hi Julieann1 and JDG
I have really just started this branch of family today and made incredible progress so far with the help of Ecneps,Latterday Saints&Freecen so yes I will start a new thread,just like to try and collect a little info so I know what I am looking for.
JDG the Scroggs was never peaceful when I was there 1970's always so busy in the summer between people sheep or cattle but fantastic fun.
Fiona
-
Fiona
Have you looked at John McMillan's website? He's got a few Tweedies on there, and some MI's
http://www.johnmacmillan.co.uk/ind_family-trees.html
-
Julieann1
yes I have checked that site and some of my Richardsons including Phyliss Richardson whom I actually remember when I was little are mention amazing.This family info has come thick and fast today,I am delighted to have gathered such a lot in a short time.
Fiona
-
Greetings
This is my first post. In attempting to trace my Scottish heritage I have traced my oldest known ancestor, John Bell and his wife Mary Anderson to Scroggs Farm and area.. I believe he was a tenant farm worker or laborer.
His son,also John Bell, was born in 1767 in Howgil. Other names he is associated with are Nethercleuch(Nethercleugh) burn/station, Tundergarth Parish, Annon. He later married Ann Irving of Millhouse. They later with three children emigrated to Nova Scotia in 1806.
I am hoping to contact Julieann1 who posted on 10/18/08 that a David Stewart Bell passed away in Scrogs in 1949. Possibly there is some family still there?
Any assistance would be appreciated.
-
Hi
I don't know if there are any Bells about that area now. It's a pretty common surname so probably.
My earliest Bell was George Bell who was born about 1766 in Dumfriesshire. He married Janet Irving and they lived in Ettrickholm, St Mungo. Possibly George was bapt in Canonbie 1766 son of David Bell and Isabell Armstrong of Drybrow.
Julie (Julieann1 - new account. I locked myself out of my old one)
-
Hi Julie
Thank you for your quick reply.
My records show a George Bell born Feb. 1771. He was a brother to my direct ancestor, John Bell.
I do not have any more information on George.
i am planning to travel to the Annan area this summer to visit the lands of my ancestors. Those places mentioned in my previous post. I m hoping to find someone who might have some knowledge of the history of the area and could be hired as a guide to drive me around the Tundergarth area. Any suggestions as to who to reach out to would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Doug
-
I m hoping to find someone who might have some knowledge of the history of the area and could be hired as a guide to drive me around the Tundergarth area. Any suggestions as to who to reach out to would be greatly appreciated.
Why not start by asking the Dumfries and Galloway Family History Society if they know of anyone? https://dgfhs.org.uk/
-
Hi Julie
The pandemic set me back three years but I am going to be in the Dumfries/Annan area this month on the 23-25th. I will be visiting some historic sites and visiting the area my ancestors labored.
Do you have a date of death for your George Bell? I have found that my George Bell was baptized while the family lived in Howgill just east of Annan. I have him dying in 4/10/1808 age 37.
He is listed in the 1801 Annan Parish Census living with his parents John Bell(Carter) and Mary Anderson. Siblings John Bell, Andrew Bell(Joiner), William(Sadler) and Mary Bell(manf.1)
I have seen the photo of a Bell couple standing next to a stone building at Scroggs Bridge taken in the early 1900's. Any idea who they might be?
Regards
db
-
Hi,
Just trying to re-acquaint myself with this thread.
The photo of the couple is of David Stewart Bell (1879-1949) and his wife, Isabella Cochrane (b1885). He was the son of James Bell and Fanny Watson and was born at Tundergarth.
My George Bell was married to Janet Irving and died after 1841, so definitely not the same one as yours. There are a lot of Bells!