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Title: Mary Hall /Thomas Weatherup
Post by: stevenson on Sunday 14 October 07 13:40 BST (UK)
I am doing a sideways dance with the rellies on this one

Mary's parents were James and Esther Lyle
Mary went to the USA and I have not found their marriage yet........but her brother Mathew's son Mathew married a Hunter from Donegore area and also went to USA.

Now Joseph Twig married Sarah Hunter 1877 same time frame as Mathew ,both Hunters from the same area.....did the Twig's also go to the USA...there are no deaths for them in Ireland.......I have no way of checking USA records....

Can anyone help please

and if anyone is looking for Weatherup ,Hall, Lyle, McDowell  links please come and ask

Steve....
Title: Re: Mary Hall /Thomas Weatherup
Post by: BallyaltikilliganG on Sunday 14 October 07 17:26 BST (UK)
From castlegarden.org/
Miss Lyle Lady 30 F 20 Nov 1874 Ireland Kenilworth
Sarah R. Lyle Lady 40 F 30 Oct 1876 USA Pennsylvania
Alex Lyle Gentleman 22 M 18 Sep 1885 USA City Of Rome
Alex Lyle Nurseryman 25 M 24 Mar 1879 Scotland Circassia
Alexander Lyle Gentleman 53 M 18 Sep 1885 USA City Of Rome
Alfred Lyle Carpenter 22 M 6 Jul 1885 England Circassia
Andrew Lyle Laborer 22 M 12 May 1866 England Asia
Arnot Lyle Car Man 30 M 9 Sep 1872 England Idaho
B. Lyle Lady 18 F 18 Sep 1885 USA City Of Rome
C.p. Lyle Merchant 30 M 8 Dec 1879 Ireland Bolivia
There are 7 more pages
 
David Twig Laborer 28 M 19 Jun 1871 Scotland Calabria
Ellen Twig Matron 24 F 23 Nov 1868 England Manhattan
Fanny Twig Servant, Gentleman's Servant 23 F 12 Mar 1866 Scotland Caledonia
Hugh Twig Laborer 22 M 21 Jun 1880 England City Of Richmond
Margaret Twig Servant, Gentleman's Servant 20 F 10 Jul 1882 Ireland Italy
Mary Twig Child, Youngster 1 F 23 Nov 1868 England Manhattan
Mary Twig Spinster 18 F 25 Oct 1884 Ireland City Of Richmond
Patrick Twig Child, Youngster 3 M 23 Nov 1868 England Manhattan
There are german Twigs on board as well
Good luck, Jim
Title: Re: Mary Hall /Thomas Weatherup
Post by: maryderry on Sunday 14 October 07 22:37 BST (UK)
found these,(after doing a dance myself i must be a glutton for punishment LOL) this is what i found (take it or leave LOL)

this is the only marriage  i could find with those two names.

JANE HALL TO DAVID WEATHERUP 20-5-1887 @ CARRICKFERUS FIRST PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH. CARRICKFERUS, LARNE, ANT.
you said she had a brother mathew (i could'nt find a birth for her.) so i checked out his this is what i found.
birth. MATHEW HALL 29-6-1874. LARNE, BALLYNURE, ANT. parents. MATHEW HALL & MARTHA JANE LYLE. he also had a brother JAMES HALL 9-9-1869 BORN SAME PLACE.

marriage MATTHEW HALL AGE 23 TO MARTHA JANE LYLE AGE 22 4-4-1867 LARNE, ANT. fathers JAMES HALL & DAVID LYLE.



                                             regards mary.
Title: Re: Mary Hall /Thomas Weatherup
Post by: stevenson on Monday 15 October 07 17:36 BST (UK)
ohee Jim..... ;D

any other way of finding the Capt Lyle .Merchant.... please like where to look /dates/parents/blood group /family tree  ;D etc

Mary .....

on the ball again .......what can I say

I have Jane's birth and married to a Weatherup..but now..yeppee
her parents were Patrick and Sarah.

Mathew and Martha's son(marriage 1867.. ta) their Mathew married a Hunter..

thank you both soooo much

will recheck my information and get back

Happy Steve

Title: Re: Mary Hall /Thomas Weatherup
Post by: BallyaltikilliganG on Monday 15 October 07 19:21 BST (UK)
following on those Lyles
C.p. Lyle Merchant 30 M 8 Dec 1879 Ireland Bolivia 
Elizabeth Lyle Milliner 20 F 30 Aug 1880 Ireland Devonia
Henry H. Lyle Child, Youngster 3 M 16 Jan 1878 Ireland Scythia
Hugh Lyle Draper 29 M 21 Aug 1873 Ireland Caledonia
Hugh R. Lyle Student / Scholastic 16 M 9 Nov 1885 Ireland Aurania
James C. Lyle Child, Youngster 1 M 16 Jan 1878 Ireland Scythia
James Lyle Farmer 40 M 5 Oct 1872 Ireland Iowa
James Lyle Laborer 21 M 16 Apr 1883 Ireland Anchoria
James Lyle Laborer 23 M 16 Apr 1883 Ireland Anchoria
John Lyle Laborer 28 M 4 Jan 1866 Ireland Britannia
John Lyle Unknown 18 M 19 Aug 1867 Ireland Britannia
John M. Lyle Child, Youngster 5 M 16 Jan 1878 Ireland Scythia
Joseph Lyle Farmer 21 M 19 Jan 1880 Ireland Anchoria
Margaret Lyle Unknown 27 F 14 Apr 1874 Ireland Elysia
Mary J. Lyle Servant, Gentleman's Servant 25 F 27 Apr 1868 Ireland Iowa
Matilda Lyle Unknown 28 F 4 Jan 1866 Ireland Britannia
Miss Lyle Lady 30 F 20 Nov 1874 Ireland Kenilworth
Mrs. G. Lyle Wife 30 F 15 Oct 1884 Ireland Bolivia
Mrs. Lyle Wife 28 F 16 Jan 1878 Ireland Scythia
Rev. S. Lyle Minister 36 M 16 Jan 1878 Ireland Scythia
Samuel Lyle Clergyman, Reverend 35 M 5 Sep 1877 Ireland State Of Nevada
Samuel Lyle Merchant 25 M 8 Dec 1879 Ireland Bolivia
William G. Lyle Child, Youngster 6 M 16 Jan 1878 Ireland Scythia


C.p. Lyle  Occupation Merchant
Age 30
Sex M
Literacy U
Arrived 8 Dec 1879
Origin Ireland
Port Glasgow & Moville
Last Residence 
Destination United States
Plan Unknown
Ship Bolivia
Passage Unknown

Mrs. G. Lyle  Occupation Wife
Age 30
Sex F
Literacy U
Arrived 15 Oct 1884
Origin Ireland
Port Glasgow & Moville
Last Residence 
Destination United States
Plan Unknown
Ship Bolivia
Passage Unknown

Samuel Lyle  Occupation Merchant
Age 25
Sex M
Literacy U
Arrived 8 Dec 1879
Origin Ireland
Port Glasgow & Moville
Last Residence 
Destination United States
Plan Unknown
Ship Bolivia
Passage Unknown

Samuel Lyle  Occupation Merchant
Age 25
Sex M
Literacy U
Arrived 8 Dec 1879
Origin Ireland
Port Glasgow & Moville
Last Residence 
Destination United States
Plan Unknown
Ship Bolivia
Passage Unknown
Samuel Lyle  Occupation Clergyman, Reverend
Age 35
Sex M
Literacy U
Arrived 5 Sep 1877
Origin Ireland
Port Liverpool & Queenstown
Last Residence 
Destination United States
Plan Unknown
Ship State Of Nevada
Passage Unknown
Coincidence two on the same journey?  Sorry i cant think of where to look further, Jim
Title: Re: Mary Hall /Thomas Weatherup
Post by: stevenson on Wednesday 17 October 07 17:50 BST (UK)
Thank you Bally

I think I will leave this lot to the weekend before I get stuck in to them

Steve   ;D
Title: Re: Mary Hall /Thomas Weatherup
Post by: stevenson on Tuesday 23 October 07 19:51 BST (UK)
Mary's father was John not James
John being the son of James and Esther Lyle not their daughter

I seem to have spent hours barking up the wrong tree.... :-[

although I have found many other links to my immediate family  ;D

Thank you all

Steve
Title: Re: Mary Hall /Thomas Weatherup
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 27 January 09 23:15 GMT (UK)
Looks like your family twig is growing!! ;D ;D

Dave Hall here with Hunter in the family but after these dates, so many Halls have such similarities yet not related.....The only definite occurence of my Halls are at Shane castle Gardens....no Lyles or Weatherups or Weatherdowns.....Good hunting!!
Title: Re: Mary Hall /Thomas Weatherup
Post by: feistylass on Thursday 19 February 09 11:38 GMT (UK)
steve-

are you looking up the weatherup's of Carrick area? My husbands granny was Elizabeth weatherup and her dad was David Weatherup but we can't find any record of him. Elizabeth was born in 1881 and she married Hugh Hopkins. We know Elizabeth was born on the family farm on the Sleivetrue road. Any thoughts on this one.
Title: Re: Mary Hall /Thomas Weatherup
Post by: hallmark on Thursday 19 February 09 12:30 GMT (UK)
Mary's father was John not James
John being the son of James and Esther Lyle not their daughter

I seem to have spent hours barking up the wrong tree.... :-[


although I have found many other links to my immediate family  ;D




I had a dog like that once! ;D ;D



Well strangely enough I had actually given up on my g/father's line and concentrating of g/mother's line when 3 generations earlier I found her ancestor's marriage....yep...to my g/father's line....then got back to what I was actually looking for in first place. So keep records/references etc on a spreadsheet....of any reference you come across when searching, they could very easily be useful later!  Cousins marrying cousin marrying cousins.....AAAARRRGH!!
Title: Re: Mary Hall /Thomas Weatherup
Post by: helenar on Thursday 05 March 09 10:09 GMT (UK)
feistylass

Probate of the Will of David Weatherup late of Slievetrue Carrickfergus County Antrim Farmer who died 29 November 1914 granted at Belfast to Thomas Weatherup and Thomas McKee Farmers.

You can find this on the PRONI site under wills calendar, there should be a more detailed will at PRONI

http://www.proni.gov.uk/index/search_the_archives/will_calendars/wills_search.htm
Title: Re: Mary Hall /Thomas Weatherup
Post by: stevenson on Thursday 10 September 09 19:58 BST (UK)
I have David Weatherup married to Jane Hall in 1887

I have no children for them yet...this information passed down by word of mouth and their marriage I found on Emerald being 20/05/1887

Any help

Steve
Title: Re: Mary Hall /Thomas Weatherup
Post by: jnc on Monday 04 July 11 19:07 BST (UK)
Steve (and anyone else interested),

We have a Weatherup Family discussion blog going at http://wxup.blogspot.com/ and would welcome your contributions and questions.

Neal.
Title: Re: Mary Hall /Thomas Weatherup
Post by: rachel44 on Wednesday 07 September 11 17:48 BST (UK)
 My grandfather was robert hall from raloo county antrim and his father my great grandfather was matthew hall married to I think martha lyle. I cannot find the booklet on the Halls and Lyles at the minute,it was by a David Lyle Hall from New York.  I do remember reading about a son of Matthew having married a lady Hunter from Doagh before emigrating to Canada and having a store in Winnipeg I also think they had two daughters Meta and Molly who were school teachers. There was also a David Lyle who had a shop in Royal avenue  Belfast  1960.

Rachel
Title: Re: Mary Hall /Thomas Weatherup
Post by: kingskerswell on Wednesday 07 September 11 18:25 BST (UK)
Rachel,
          Matthew Hall married Mary Jane Kyle 0n 4 Apr 1867 in Ballynure Presbyterian Church, Larne. one of their sons Matthew, born 29 Jun 1874 in Ballynure married Margaret Hunter in Larne First Presbyterian Church on 27 Sept 1895.

Regards
Title: Re: Mary Hall /Thomas Weatherup
Post by: kingskerswell on Wednesday 07 September 11 19:25 BST (UK)
Rachel,
          My apologies, Marthe Jane Kyle should read Martha Jane LYLE.

Regards
Title: Re: Mary Hall /Thomas Weatherup
Post by: stevenson on Saturday 28 April 12 16:14 BST (UK)
UPDATE...for anyone following

I still believe that Mary was a daughter of James Hall c1789 married a Weatherup.

IF ANYONE finds her please let me know.

But from family lore I can now say that
Mary Hall daughter of John (Dairyland)
married
William John Weatherup son of John and Mary Forsyth

and

Thomas Weatherup
married
Esther Lyle Hall daughter of Patrick and Sarah McWilliams


JNC....unable to post on your Weatherup site ......

Rachel....Your information is correct...if you need any other information please pm me


Steve