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I'm currently transcribing some Lancashire burials and found a man aged 101 in 1834 - it got me thinking - what's the oldest ancestor you have seen?
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The oldest one in my tree is only 98. He died back in 1793. Not bad for that day and age I suppose.
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My Eldest is a great Uncle born the eldest of 10 children in 1858 he died in 1962 aged 103 - my mother lived 'til she was 98 and her eldest sister until she was 91. :D :D
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My grandmother died aged 96 and at the time her older sister (98) and at least 3 older cousins were still alive. Her grandmother lived to be 92 and her aunt lived until 96. Her brother-in-law was 102 when he died.
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The chap of 101 wasn't mine but several of my ancestors died at 92.
This thread is just going to show you should not discount the possibility of ancestors living to a grand old age when looking for deaths!
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My gr gran was 2 months off turning 100 when she died.
Karenlee
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Interesting - I've often seen very old people whilst searching - sometimes wonder about the quotes about average age in the 19th C .... ???
For example, if you take the 1901 E & W census, and just put birth year range 1780 +/- 20 - you get 203 names ....
Looks like the oldest (allowing for mis-trans of course :) is shared by 6 people c1781 ... but the fact is that 1 is a SON and 2 are daughters :D
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My oldest is Angus MacGregor of Latheron, Caithness who as a 105-yr-old was featured in an article in the John O'Groats Journal in 1840 - this article was also picked up by the Times, 20 May 1840. Angus was still alive for Scotland's 1841 census as a 106-year-old. I haven't found his death/burial, so don't know how much longer he lived.
He was apparently discharged from the Army in 1785 aged 50 but had again "buckled on his armour during the French war". By 1840 he was "rather oblivious of matters of recent occurrence", but his reminiscences of days of yesteryear were said to be quite vivid.
Anna
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Hi all :)
sometimes wonder about the quotes about average age in the 19th C .... ???
Mainly due to child mortality, isn't it? ???
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yes, suspect it is - but when you see statements like - 'people didnt live much past 40 (etc) ' it makes you wonder .... :)
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Seeing census and BMDs all day, we know it's wrong, don't we! ;)
A good example of how statistics don't reflect reality!
(Just as calculating the average income of Bill Gates and myself wouldn't reflect my income very well :P)
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yes, suspect it is - but when you see statements like - 'people didnt live much past 40 (etc) ' it makes you wonder .... :)
I think it really depends on the area they live in. My paternal ancestors are from a rural agrigultural area and all lived to be 80+. A friends family in Oldham all died earlier.
I believe the problems of today (poverty, lack of exercise and obesity) are similar to the public health issues of 100-200 years ago.
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you can talk statistics till 99% of the cows come hom ... but ..... ;D
NR - very true, a good example of why an average is just that ...... ::)
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My gr gran was 2 months off turning 100 when she died.
Karenlee
Ahhh bless her!
My Gran managed 100 years and 6 months...
guess what, her family have 'lost' her telegram from the queen, I dread to think what else they threw away after she died ::)
Suey
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My gr gran was 2 months off turning 100 when she died.
Karenlee
Ahhh bless her!
My Gran managed 100 years and 6 months...
guess what, her family have 'lost' her telegram from the queen, I dread to think what else they threw away after she died ::)
Suey
Oh how sad to "lose" something so precious! I have my grandparents telegram from their 60th Wedding Anniversary and will treasure it until i receive my own (Only got 50 years to go...... ;D)
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My grandfather made 101 - 1888-1989.
Pinetree
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I found recently this MI from Over Peover, Cheshire - I believe that Charles CLARK was my 5xggrandfather:
Sacred to the memory of CHARLES CLARK of Over Peover who departed this life July 5th in the year of Our Lord 1812 aged 103 years He had by his marriage with ANNE FODEN three sons and two daughters from who sprang numerous progeny viz:
RANDLE CLARK Children 11 Grandchildren 40
JOHN CLARK Children 10 Grandchildren 13
CHARLES CLARK Children 11 Grandchildren 6
SARAH BLACKSHAW Children 6 Grandchildren 11
ANNE BOWERS Children 4 Grandchildren 5
In all 122 descendants born before his death Reader if thou art a Labourer as this man was, think not thou has no duties to perform to thy family besides furnishing them with food and raiment. Thou art bounded to instill into them the principles of Religion to teach them to fear God, honour the king and to deal justly with men, and then thou have been young and now am old and yet saw I never the righteous forsaken nor his seed begging their bread Psalm 57 verse 26
Also ANNE wife of the above named CHARLES CLARKE who departed this life October 13th 1798 aged 80 years
Jean
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My grandfather was 102 when he passed away last year. He was from stubborn Dutch stock - many of his Dutch cousins have also lived to great ages.
He still had his driving license until about 6 months before his passing!
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Jane Pinkerton the 5xgt gr mother of my daughters on their father's side was 107 when she died in 1881! :D
I was dubious about this at first. So I checked censuses etc. She was 97 in 1871 and 87 in 1861. She was born in Scotland in 1774!
Kooky
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My mother was 90, her grandmother was 92, her cousin was 101.
My father's gt gr mother was 94. My father was 86.
Kooky
(have certs for all!)
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My husband's grandfather born 20 Nov 1891 died 17 Jul 1995 He went to watch a rugby match three days before his 100th birthday and went onto the pitch to be presented with the signed ball (his team won then on in his 102 birthdayhe went to another home match but the team lost! He was presented with alife long free seat at home matches for his 99th birthday ;D
Trees
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My gran was 107 when she died in 2005.
When she turned 100 in 1997 we really hoped that she would live into the 21st century, so she could say that she had lived in 3 centuries.
She used to talk about her grandmother who was born in the 1840s - it makes you feel that you have a personal link to the past.
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This is not a relative of mind, but a photo of a grave i took at Hillsborough cemetery in Auckland, New Zealand a few weeks back of Mary BROMLEY wife of Henry who died on 6 June 1987 aged 107. A fine age whether related or not and may help someone :-)
Cheers
Sarndra
www.sarndra.com
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Poor Mary was a widow for a very long time wasn't she?
Pinetree
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I'm always surprised that a lot of folk did make it to very old age in the past (C18th&19th) but I reckon that out in the country, once you got past all the childhood things that took you off and managed not to get TB it was probably quite a healthy, if basic, life.
It was quiet different in towns - much more disease.
Carole
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I wouldn't class Ogmore Vale as out in the country ;D Grampy was a signal man at the signal box for a colliery in a mining Valley. His childhood was in Wantage which had been nick named "Black Wantage" due to the tanning trade.Mind both places are very pleasant and yes could now be classed as "country" Don't forget they lived through the austerities of two wars too I can't wait for the BBC Wales series Coal House to start They have sent three families to live and work as caol mining families in 1927 it should give us a good idea of the life Grampy lived.
Trees
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My grandmother lived to 99.75years and my wife's mother died in 2001 at 100years and five months
they were tough ladies but very proper in their habits.
I was very waryof grandmother but mother in law was exceptionally nice