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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Lancashire => Topic started by: NettieS on Tuesday 09 October 07 16:18 BST (UK)
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Hi All,
Looking for information on the Bramwell family of Bolton.
My grandfather Melbourne Stanley Bramwell was born in 1905 in Bolton, sorry I dont have much to go on at all.
My father remembers visiting his grandmother Bramwell in Back Haydock Street Bolton when he was younger.
Not 100% sure but great grandmothers maiden name may have been Crook.
Regards
NettieS
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Hi,
FreeBMD has birth of Melbourne BRAMWELL, Bolton 8c 526, Jan-Feb-Mar 1905
If you obtain the birth certificate this will give you his mother's maiden name.
FreeBMD does not list any BRAMWELL/COOK marriages 1885-1910
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Hi,
Did your grandfather have any brothers or sisters? There is the birth registration of an Emily M Bramwell in Bolton Dec.Qtr 1911 Volume 8c page 850 with mothers maiden name recorded as Crook.
This birth sort of ties in with the POSSIBLE marriage of an Emily Mabel Crook and a Thomas Bramwell who appear on the same page of marriages in Sept Qtr.1905 in Bolton Volume 8c page 547. Unfortunately it is not possible to say if they actually married each other. This is I know later than Melbourne`s birth so I wonder if Thomas`s first wife died and then he married Emily?
Regards,
Mo
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if the possible marriage that mosiefish found is yours then this is possibly emily in 1901
1901. RG13/3617/78/2.
reg. dist. bolton.
peter crook age 51 . b. sharples,lancs. occ. butcher. head.
ann crook age 54. b. scotland. wife.
peter.w.crook age 23. b. astley bridge,lancs. occ. butcher. son.
clara.a.crook age 22. b. ditto. occ. dressmaker. daughter.
emily.m.crook age 19. b. ditto. occ. milliner.daughter.
john.e.crook age 16. b. ditto. occ. butchers apprentice.son.
living at 483,blackburn road, st. paul,bolton,lancs.
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Oops - sorry I see from the later messages why I couldn't find a BRAMWELL/COOK marriage - should have been CROOK :-[
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hi got ralph bramwell in family tree although he isnt direct still have some info on his son james and ralph himself ralph born tidswell derby and in 1848 married rachel she died then married mary connor in 1855with rachel had william robert samuel margaret ralph did move to bolton and had more children could he be related ??
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hello
his father looks to be ernest bramwell and mother is martha both born bolton . in 1911 they are in barrow on furness.marriage in bolton dec 1901 ernest bramwell and martha battersby..
2 sisters hannah1909 barrow in furness and edith 1902 ashton u lyne.
hope this is correct one not a common name
regards lee
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Hi topman,
Ralph Bramwell is my 3x great grandfather, his son Robert is my 2x great grandfather and roberts son Ernest who hol mentioned is my great grandfather.
Ralph was actually married three times his first wife was Martha Oldfield they married in Tideswell, Derbyshire 11/4/1833 she died in 1842 and Martha was the mother of William, James, George, Robert, Margaret and Samuel. James was born in 1835 and died 1836, George was born 1836 and died 1836.
Ralphs second wife was Rachael Balshaw they married in 1848 in Bolton, Rachael died in 1852, then Ralph married Mary O'Connor in 1855 in Bolton, Mary had Martha in 1855 and then James in 1857.
I have quite abit of information about the family if you want to get in touch.
Regards
Lyne
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Hi hol,
Yes Ernest is my great grandfather and thank you for taking the time to look for the information.
Its been such a long time since I looked at this thread because I first posted it just over three years ago and have now through alot of hours researching have alot of information about my grandfathers family :)
Regards
Lyne
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hi i have james in family ralph died in the workhouse in 1868 buried in tonge cem his wife mary died 1869 buried in same cem but different grave he was 62 she was 48 james went on to mary rebecca yates and had 7 children plus my grandmother who was rebeccas first born to another man both buried together in tonge cem in catholic graves (james catholic ) his first wife more or less died in after giving birth both her and child died within weeks of each other hope this helps fill some gaps ;)
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hi lyne .. i know you said you have near all info on the bramwells but thought i would let you know just in case you havent got these i have rob in some censuses and ernest and possible other members of robs family eg ernest addy when he died they all stuck pretty close together got rob in 71 & 01 & 91 also bits on walter & ernest and ralph and family in1851 and possible more as i dont know who wed who lol any help please ask regards dave :)
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Hi Dave,
Will PM you information about family members and who they married as there is alot people.
Kind Regards
Lyne
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thanks lyne got most of what i need i am more into the yates rebecca who married james bramwell was my g grandma ;D she had ada my grand ma out of wedlock
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Hi topman,
Ralph Bramwell is my 3x great grandfather, his son Robert is my 2x great grandfather and roberts son Ernest who hol mentioned is my great grandfather.
Ralph was actually married three times his first wife was Martha Oldfield they married in Tideswell, Derbyshire 11/4/1833 she died in 1842 and Martha was the mother of William, James, George, Robert, Margaret and Samuel. James was born in 1835 and died 1836, George was born 1836 and died 1836.
Ralphs second wife was Rachael Balshaw they married in 1848 in Bolton, Rachael died in 1852, then Ralph married Mary O'Connor in 1855 in Bolton, Mary had Martha in 1855 and then James in 1857.
I have quite abit of information about the family if you want to get in touch.
Regards
Lyne
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Hi I dont know if you will see this because the post i read was from dec,but i am trying to find out more about the Bramwells because I am related to martha bramwell.She is my great grandmother ,her son Anthony Bramwell Jordan is my grandfather and his son Anthony Matin Jordan was my dad.
Do you know anything about the origin of the name Bramwell?until I found out about Martha I had only known it as a cristian name .
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Hi Mandalan. Martha was also my Great Grandmother. Her son James Arthur Jordan was my grandfather. My father was James Terrence Jordan. I have a photo of the whole family in the 1890's. If you you want a copy let me know.
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Hi Mandalan and Billjo1,
Sorry my head isnt on straight this morning due to late shift at work last night. So please scratch what I said to you in my PM Bill as I didnt read this post before I PM'd you, I can see that you and Mandalan descend through Ralphs marriage to Mary O'Connor, I descend through Ralphs first marriage to Martha Oldfield.
The Bramwell surname originates from Tideswell, Derbyshire, it seems to be the epicentre for the surname.
I have Martha in my family tree and her husband Anthony Jordan, but I dont have any children for them as of yet so we can help each other out. I have Martha's brother James, his wife and their eight children in my tree. Infact if I,m honest the Bramwell side is quite large.
Ralph Bramwell and his sister Mary born 1814 are both illegitamate, this has been confirmed on the Parish Records for Tideswell, their mother was called Margaret (sorry I dont have a surname for her) so this is as far back as I have got on the Bramwell side of the tree.
Will close for now as I,m off to work shortly.
Regards
Lyne