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Research in Other Countries => United States of America => Topic started by: kenandjulie on Sunday 07 October 07 16:54 BST (UK)
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Hello I wonder if You can help . Can you give me any info on James Athay born circa 1831 Shipham Somerset married to Ellen. They came came to Salt Lake City in 1863. I I am trying to find out which ship he came on, also which port he arrived at.
When families from the UK arrived in USA which route did they take to Salt Lake City. I believe James was on a wagon train circa 1863, I think this wagon train left Florence, Nebraska, but how did they get to Nebraska? Iam assuming that they landed at New York.
Elijah Larkin said in his diary that Sister Ellen Athay gave birth to a girl at 9,00pm, this was on 21 September 1863
Any help much appreciated
Regards Ken
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Some information here on Athay family:
www.lds.org/churchhistory/library/pioneercompanysearch/1,15773,3966-1,00.html (put Athay in surname box)
Perhaps some decendants (not sure how common name is in Utah):
www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gsr&GSfn=&GSmn=&GSln=Athay&GSst=47
Question- who or what is ziksby?
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Thank you once agin for info. Any idea how they went from New York to Florence, Nebraska. I am a
Regards Kenssuming they arrived at New York.
Looking at the map it is a great distance.
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Hello Ken
I would imagine they travelled by train.
Family members of mine travelled by train from NY to Illinois in the same year(s). Other travellers may have continued on to Nebraska (some 600 miles)
A google search about RR services from New York to Nebraska reveals quite a bit of information that may be helpful to you.
Kind regards
Valerie
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kenandjulie
www.pbs.org/weta/thewest/resources/archives/two/62_10.htm
This shows a photo of a Mormon Wagon train in 1879. The trek was not for the faint of heart!!
Beth
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Hi
Found the following family arriving in New York
Year: July 20, 1863
Ship Name: Amazon
Port of Arrival: New York
Port of Departure: London
Destination: United States
Place of Origin: Great Britain
ATHEY
James 30, male, labourer
Ellen, 29, female
Mary, 4, female
William, 3, male
Martha, infant, female
I know the age is off a bit, but thought it worth mentioning. If this is your Ellen, and she gave birth in Sept, she was most likely pregnant then during the long sea voyage. Don't envy her..
Microfilm roll: M237_231; Line: 26; List number: 747.
Regards
Valerie ;)
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Have we found out what a ziksby is yet?
dollylee
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nope.... :)
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I have just 'Googled' for Ziksby and there are 5,010 web sites and I am still not any the wiser!!
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think we'll ever know ???
dollylee
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Hello
If you look at emigrant US LOOKUP Offer. You will see that Ziksby is offering to do free look ups for people. My question at the time was directed at him. Hope that solves that little enigma
Regards Ken
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Ah Typical Rootschatters,
Give us a name and we need to sort it out !!
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;D ;D thank you Ken !!!
It makes perfect sense now.
dollylee
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Hi,
I'm Ziksby and yes I do have 5000 hits on Google (I think most of them refer to the same subjects (genealogy and astronomy)
I do have a copy of the Mormon Immigration CD and have done many lookups in the past few years. Most of the requests have been on B-G forums.
I found the Athays and replied to Ken and Julie but haven't heard from them since. There is quite a bit of info about them on the CD, plus I can give them the passenger list and full diary notes. Also Charles Dickens went on board prior to the boat leaving London Docks and recorded what he found.
I also found the family on the wagon train rosters.
Ken and Julie,
Get back to me and I'll send you the info direct.
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Hello Roger,
My thanks for your reply to my P.M. None of those names are 'mine'.
Is it possible that there could be information regarding the following piece of history:
In Elgin (formerly Halladay's Corners), Leeds County, Ontario, Canada, Mormon missionairies arrived and recruited many families. In 1834, 135 covered wagons left for Mormon settlements. For a brief time, the village was named Nauvoo.
Among the names: Chipman, Beach.
Regards, Kathleen
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Hi Kathleen,
I also have Canadian Chipman's in my tree. Stephen Chipman from Bastard, Leeds County, Ontario married Amanda Washburn and Pheobe Davis. A grandaughter of Stephen's, Melissa married Leonard Harrington, whose father was married to Mary Jones one of my blood relatives. An extended link, but all were Mormon pioneers. Check my tree at www.ziksby.tribalpages.com.
The Chipmans, Harringtons and Russell families travelled west with the Abraham Smoot Company ... see http://www.lds.org/churchhistory/library/pioneercompany/0,15797,4017-1-343,00.html
I can probably find more if you need it.
Regards
Roger
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Wonderful news, Roger. :)
I will certainly take a look at your tree and the other link you provided.
I know that not all members who set out on that long, difficult journey travelled the full distance. In fact, some returned to Leeds County.
Regards,
Kathleen
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Amanda Washburn's mother Arsenath Sexton was sister of my Great-Great-Great Grandmother, Elizabeth (Betsy) Sexton.
One of the many questions I have at this time is -- Did Stephen's wife Pheobe Davis die in Utah or England? I have seen conflicting information on this.
Kathleen
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Kathleen,
The online sources I have seen are all similar to the following ...
Phoebe DAVIS was born on 10 Oct 1828 in Kinnerly, Shropshire, England. She died on 13 Nov 1872 in American Fork, Utah. Parents: Edward DAVIS and Elizabeth JASPER.She emigrated with her parents and siblings on the Zetland from Liverpool in 1849.
She certainly had many children born in American Fork following her marriage to Stephen Chipman. I don't think she ever returned to England.
roger
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Thanks, Roger
It seems that by way of Amanda Washburn, we are related.
Kathleen
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i think that you have been looking up George Biles on the 1881 cencus. I am a descendant of Blanche, his daughter. do you have any more information about their lives?