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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Antrim => Topic started by: Netta on Wednesday 03 October 07 12:58 BST (UK)
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Looking for Isabella's family, had a sister Agnes, brother Thomas. Her father had a barbers shop in the York Street area.
Photograph with Husband Joseph Silas Short & daughter Nellie who died in infancy.
I believe Isabella had an Aunt who had a shop in Whitehead !
Thank you
Netta
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Hi.
Not the info requested, but it may be useful, if you have not already got it.
Marriage.
Joseph Silas Short to Isabella Ramsay, married 22 August 1899, in St Anne's Church of Ireland, Belfast.
Dixie
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Hello Netta,
I had a look at the 1912 Ulster Covenant but didn't find Isabella or her husband.
http://applications.proni.gov.uk/UlsterCovenant/search.aspx
Christopher
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IGI lists the following family which might be a possibilty- do you know how old Isabella was when she was married? or what age she was when she died?:
Thomas Ramsey m. Ellen Scott. Children (all b. Co. Antrim)-
1. Hugh born 6 Feb.1865 Whitehouse district.
2. Thomas born 1 Apr.1866.
3. Henry born 22 Aug.1867 Shankill district.
4. John born 8 Feb.1871.
5. Margaret Jane born 28 Oct.1872 Belfast dist.
6. Agnes born 2 Feb.1871 Antrim dist.
7. Isabella born 16 May 1880 Belfast dist.
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Hello Aghadowey,
Thank you for your info, wee problem, I have Isabella DOB 8/2/1883 deceased April 1952, will I change DOB on my tree.
Isabella told a white lie when she married in 1899 states she is 21yrs, I make her 16yrs would this marriage have been illegal if she had stated the truth ???
Thank you
Netta :D
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Hello Christopher,
Thank you for your help.
Could you tell me how to find Isabella father Thomas c1838 as there are no records for that period.
Regards Netta ;)
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Hello Aghadowey,
Thank you for your info, wee problem, I have Isabella DOB 8/2/1883 deceased April 1952, will I change DOB on my tree.
Isabella told a white lie when she married in 1899 states she is 21yrs, I make her 16yrs would this marriage have been illegal if she had stated the truth ???
Thank you
Netta :D
Netta- I did not say that I had found the correct family- just posted them as a possibilty.
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Aghadowey I'm very sorry that I misinterpreted you.
Thank you Netta
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IGI lists the following family which might be a possibilty- do you know how old Isabella was when she was married? or what age she was when she died?:
Thomas Ramsey m. Ellen Scott. Children (all b. Co. Antrim)-
1. Hugh born 6 Feb.1865 Whitehouse district.
2. Thomas born 1 Apr.1866.
3. Henry born 22 Aug.1867 Shankill district.
4. John born 8 Feb.1871.
5. Margaret Jane born 28 Oct.1872 Belfast dist.
6. Agnes born 2 Feb.1871 Antrim dist.
7. Isabella born 16 May 1880 Belfast dist.
Sorry.
Netta
As I said: might be a possibility.
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Hello Aghadowey,
Thank you for your info, wee problem, I have Isabella DOB 8/2/1883 deceased April 1952, will I change DOB on my tree.
Isabella told a white lie when she married in 1899 states she is 21yrs, I make her 16yrs would this marriage have been illegal if she had stated the truth ???
Thank you
Netta :D
Hello Netta...having trouble using the pm system..do any of the ramseys in your research have connections with Umgall/Ligoniel or the Oldpark.I may be able to help if so!
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You need to make a few posts before you can use the PM system (anti-spam measure) so if you reply to this and then try to send a PM to Netta I think it should work.
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Cheers...many thanks for that.....saves me anymore time looking.
Mark
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Looking for Isabella's family, had a sister Agnes, brother Thomas. Her father had a barbers shop in the York Street area.
Photograph with Husband Joseph Silas Short & daughter Nellie who died in infancy.
I believe Isabella had an Aunt who had a shop in Whitehead !
Thank you
Netta
Hello Netta,
What denomination were the Ramsay/Ramsey family. Was the Aunt a sister of Isabella's mother or father or married to a brother of one of her parents?
Christopher
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Just wondering did you get my p.m.
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Hi Martin,
Yes i got your pm, have you any dates for the people even circa dates would help. ???
Some names match. ;D
Netta
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Thats all I have up to the present day... crumlin road-loughview and legainn street...any of these ring a ball?
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here they are on the 1911 census
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Shankill/Crumlin_Road/171820/
note the spelling..took me ages to find this the A where its clear its an E !!also Louhside is Crumlin Road!
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Hi Martin,
Will have a browse through that site. one question do you have a Thomas (christian name) ? Thomas Ramsay/sey moved to Olpark area a while after his father died, he was also Thomas and owned a Hairdressers on North Queen Street. Any Bells ???????
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netta
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what timescale are you looking at?
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Hi Tim,
I thought I had sent you the dates ages ago, however, I have only got back to c1820 then up my grandmother is 1883.
Regards
Netta :) :) :)
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Hi Martin,
Will have a browse through that site. one question do you have a Thomas (christian name) ? Thomas Ramsay/sey moved to Olpark area a while after his father died, he was also Thomas and owned a Hairdressers on North Queen Street. Any Bells ???????
:-\
netta
what year was it that he owned a Hairdressers on North Queen Street
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Looking for Isabella's family, had a sister Agnes, brother Thomas. Her father had a barbers shop in the York Street area.
Photograph with Husband Joseph Silas Short & daughter Nellie who died in infancy.
I believe Isabella had an Aunt who had a shop in Whitehead !
Thank you
Netta
Hello my Gt Gt Grandmother Agnes Hanley nee Ramsay/Ramsey lived on Mountview Street in the Oldpark area, her father was called Thomas we think the came from County Antrim but may have orginally been Scottish. I have old photos taken at studios in Hamilton Lanarkshire and others taken in Belfast. I've been trying to find out more about Agnes' family but it's proving a very tough nut to crack, if you like I can send you some photos and we can see if it correspnds with anything you might have.
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Hi,
Not sure if this helps but on 3 Feb 1877 Thomas Hanley married Agnes Ramsay in Duncairn Presbyterian Church, Shankill, Belfast. Agnes' father was called Thomas.
Regards
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Hi,
Not sure if this helps but on 3 Feb 1877 Thomas Hanley married Agnes Ramsay in Duncairn Presbyterian Church, Shankill, Belfast. Agnes' father was called Thomas.
Regards
Hello and many thanks, yes that's my Gt Gt Grandfather and Grandmother, I was down at PRONI saw that record, it says Thomas Ramsey was a labourer although that would be inconsistent with the photo we have of him with a top hat and cane, (see attached). This photo was taken in Hamilton and a family member told me Agnes was Scottish, although on the 1901 and 1911 census it says she came from County Antrim.