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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Hampshire & Isle of Wight => Topic started by: Mimmi on Wednesday 03 October 07 11:35 BST (UK)
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I am trying to discover the history of Suzanne Croissant who married William Peskett in Odiham in 1859. I believe she may have been a governess to a family in Odiham at the time of her marriage . It would be interesting to know if she had any Hugenot connections, but any information about her or her family would be very much appreciated.
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Hi there Mimmi
What more do you know about Suzanne? Do you have her on any census return giving a birthdate/birthplace? Do you have her marriage certificate to William - and if so does it give her father's name and occupation?
Anna
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I see from her marriage registration that she had a middle name of Catherine. I wonder whether she might be the Catherine Croissant, born France, who was a 19-yr-old house servant in Hove in 1851: HO107/1647 folio 91 p66?
Anna
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Is this her marriage reg?
Sept qtr 1859
Hartley Wintney Hampshire
(on samre page)
Susanne Catherine Croissant
William Eichard Peskell
2c 275
If so did she use her middle name?
1851
Hove Sussex
Catherine Croissant Servant 19 U House Servant b. france
in the household of edward porter
HO107 1647 91 66
????
Suz
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post marriage
RG9/45; Folio: 89; Page: 7 - St George, Hanover Sq, Middx
William Peskell/tt 26 Head Plumber Odiham
Catherine Peskell/tt 29 Wife Badevel; D Du Donter, France
Catherine Peskell/tt 11 Mo dau Odiham
John Peskell/tt 21 Brother Painter Odiham
George Whitmarsh 21 Lodger Painter Odiham
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and this death reg
Suzane Catherine Peskett
Dec qtr 1864
Hartley Wintney
Hampshire
Suz
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Hi Anna,
I don't have a copy of her marriage certificate, but I believe her father's name was Jean and he was a watch and clockmaker. It is quite possible that she was born in France but unfortunately I don't have her birth date.
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This seems to be the family in 1861:
33 Chapel Street, Mayfair, St George Hanover Square
William Peskett Head of family M 26 Plumber Hants Odiham
Catherine Peskett Wife M 29 Wife to above Badevel D du D[ ] France
Catherine Peskett Dau Unm 11 months Hants Odiham
John Peskett Brother Unm 21 Painter Hants Odiham
George Whitmarsh Lodger Unm 21 Painter Hants Odiham
RG9/45 folio 89 p7
Oops - duplicated info - sorry!
Anna
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It looks as though Badevel is in the Departement du Doubs, so it's probably "D. du Doubs" which appears on the 1861 census.
Anna
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It is quite possible that she was born in France but unfortunately I don't have her birth date.
It seems quite certain based on these findings - and her age is shown.
Getting the Marriage Cert would be a good idea .....
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Possible birth reg for the child "Catherine" who is 11 months old in 1861:
Sarah Ann Catherine PESKETT Jun 1860 Hartley Wintney 2c 147
Anna
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Anna,Suzard & Newf,
Thank you all for that. It certainly looks as if she has been found.She was obviously born in France and came over to England ,whether as a child with her parents or as a young woman to work will have to be investigated. She must have been reasonably well educated to have made the transition from house servant to governess and it would be interesting to know how she came to be living in Odiham at the time of her marriage. Also it would be interesting to know if there were any Hugenot connections. Obviously a lot of work to be done on this one !!
Rosemary
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Hi Rosemary,
What makes you think there might be a Huguenot connection? With Suzanne/Catherine having been born in France as late as the 1830s I would think it unlikely - but perhaps you have more info ???
Anna
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(Suzanne) Catherine's transition from House Servant to Governess may have been because she was fluent in French and thus able to teach the children another language. Not too much importance was placed on the education of females - but Suzanne would most probably have been able to read and write, but needlework, music and of course French language and etiquette would have been the skills most used in her position as governess
Knowing another language was a "qualification" which could lead to aqcuiring a position as Governess.
In the British census 1851 there are 42000 school mistresses and 12000 governesses listed.
Female teachers were poorly educated and no public examinations accepted female candidates. Female teachers often progressed from being pupil teachers to schoolmistress
Generally, a more wealthy family would employ a governess mainly for their daughters for a couple of years -the sons would be sent to boarding school.
Suz
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Hi Anna,
Just a hunch,really. I have no more information but just linked the French connection with the fact that her father was a watch and clockmaker ,as were many of the Hugenots. Probably adding 2 and 2 and making 5 !!! It would make interesting history !
Rosemary
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Hi Suz,
Thanks for that explanation. You are most likely right and nothing can necessarily be read into her transition from house servant to governess.
Rosemary
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William Richard Peskett m. Suzanne Catherine Croissant Jul 19 1859 in Odiham, Hants. Parish records list Suzanne's father as Jean, a watchmaker as you stated. Suzanne died in 1864 4 years after giving birth to Sarah Ann Catherine Peskett on May 4 1860 in Odiham.
William Richard subsequently married Jane Hawksworth on Jul 17 1864 in Netherbury, Beaminster, Dorset, England.
I have more information on this family as these are my GGreatgrandparents. I have copies of William's marriage cert to Jane and death certs of William and Jane.
Gerald Peskett
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Hi Rosemary,
I think I've finally managed to track down Sarah Ann Catherine Peskett, daughter of William Peskett & Suzanne Croissant up to the 1901 census.
Here goes:
1871 census:
(William Richard's Dau from 1st marriage)
Bell Inn
Odiham, Hampshire, England
RG10/1229 26
1881 census:
(Misspelled surname-Can't find Sarah Peckett in 1871 to match)
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1887 Huntingdon, she marries Alfred William Figg
1891 census:
Alfred W. Figg Head M 28 Coachman Huntingdon
Sarah A C Figg Wife M 30 Odiham, Hampshire
Catharine M Figg Dau 3 Huntingdon
Alfred W. R. Figg Son 2 Huntingdon
Edith Emily Figg Dau under 1m Huntingdon
37 Great Northern Street
Huntingdon, England
RG12/1237 152/10
1901 census:
Alfred W. Figg Head M 37 Coachsmith Huntingdon
Catherine Figg Wife M 40 Odiham, Hants
William R. Figg Son 12 Huntingdon
Edith E. Figg Dau 10 Huntingdon
Harold P. Figg Son 7 Biggleswade, Beds
Herbert R. Figg Son 4 Staines, Middsx
24 The Hythe,
Egham, Surrey, England
RG13/1165 53/50
Gerald
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Hello Gerald
Many thanks for the information. I had discovered some of the entries but others were new to me. It all helps to fill in the gaps.
Something I discovered from the 1901 census--a daughter,Catherine Figg who was aged 3 in the 1891 census did not appear in 1901 when she would have been 13. I tracked her down to Croydon, Surrey where she was living with her aunt :-
Mark Parfitt Head, 41, Shopkeeper/Baker born (looks like Bath/Farnorough)
Mary Elizabeth Parfitt,Wife,39, born Crondall,Hampshire
Hy James, 7,Son, born Croydon
Catherine Figg,13, born Huntingdon.
There have been several family links to Crondall which is a village located near to Odiham. Will have to see how Mary Elizabeth fits into the scheme of things.
Keep up the good work,
Regards,Rosemary
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Gerald,
I have inherited a family bible via Mabel Bessie Peskett (William Richard's daughter) and then through the Hancock family (of which I'm part). The bible was given to William Richard and Jane on their marriage on 17th July 1865 in Netherbury Church. It would seem better for you or the Peskett family to have it. Perhaps we could work out a way of getting it to you.
Best wishes,
John Hancock
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Gerald - I was sad to hear about your father. Please email me direct at jmhancock@gmail.com to discuss further.
John H.