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Title: Peter Jewers 1821
Post by: gunnerb on Wednesday 26 September 07 21:54 BST (UK)
Looking for my ggg grandfather, born in Perthshire, moved to Westminster, London, occupation was a Horsekeeper, would like to find out more about his family/my roots in Scotland, thanks in advance for any help!!! Sarah.
Title: Re: Peter Jewers 1821
Post by: Gadget on Wednesday 26 September 07 22:07 BST (UK)
Hi

Welcome to Rootschat  :)

There aren't any Jewers b. around that time in Perthsire but there are 6 Peter Dewar (similar pronounciation)  bpt in Perthshire on the Scotlands People website - www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk between 1818 and 1824. It wouldmeaning following them through to see if they survived or remained in Scotland to make sure that any of them might be yours.

Do you have any other information that might help - children's names for example.

Regards

Gadget
Title: Re: Peter Jewers 1821
Post by: gunnerb on Wednesday 26 September 07 22:18 BST (UK)
Gosh that was quick Lol, thanks, yes i did think that the names may have changed slightly !! 
I dont know anything about his family apart from when he married Bridget Hayes, she was widower and the family disowned him as she had children from her first marriage and they thought that she was a lower class than his!! but he went on to have Five children with Bridget Hayes

Margeret Jewers 1858

Mary Jewers 1861-1890  and John Jewers 1861 (Twin brother did not Survive)

Peter Jewers 1867

Bridget Jewers 1871
 
sorry thats all the info i have. Sarah.

Title: Re: Peter Jewers 1821
Post by: Gadget on Wednesday 26 September 07 22:20 BST (UK)
Hi Sarah

Do you have him in any of the early census - 1841 or 1851?

Gadget
Title: Re: Peter Jewers 1821
Post by: gunnerb on Wednesday 26 September 07 22:23 BST (UK)
P.s im expecting a copy of Brigdets first marriage certificate in the next few days, which hopefully will have her parents listed on it???
She was from County Cork, Ireland (thats another job!!)
Cannot find her marriage cert for her and Peter though!!.
Title: Re: Peter Jewers 1821
Post by: Gadget on Wednesday 26 September 07 22:28 BST (UK)
A pity because it would give his father's name  :(

Where abouts where they living when they got together and was the 1858 child the first?

Gadget
Title: Re: Peter Jewers 1821
Post by: gunnerb on Wednesday 26 September 07 22:29 BST (UK)
1851 census - here Bridget(great-great-great grandmother) is with first husband James O Connor.

OK this is where it all starts to get complicated. This is the census image for Peter and Bridget Jewers 1861 (your great-great-great grandparents).  For the longest time I could not find them anywhere on the 1861 census. Then I got Mary Jewers birth certificate hoping she was born at home and I could get an address. I went to that address on the census and as you can see they have the surname totally wrong (not uncommon ). This is them though  - all details match. At first I couldn't figure out who Patrick, David and James Connor were then I found out that Bridget had been married before and was widowed.

Sorry im copying and pasting stuff another relation has sent me and ive just twigged that the reason she cannot find Peter Jewers is because of the spelling, What do you think???
Title: Re: Peter Jewers 1821
Post by: gunnerb on Wednesday 26 September 07 22:31 BST (UK)
Yes 1858 was his first child with Bridget,
Think they were in Kensington Or westminster.
Title: Re: Peter Jewers 1821
Post by: Gadget on Wednesday 26 September 07 22:32 BST (UK)
Um

Have yopu got the census reference for them and I'll look. You can't post full census images on here - Copyright.

Gadget
Title: Re: Peter Jewers 1821
Post by: Gadget on Wednesday 26 September 07 22:35 BST (UK)
You won't believe this but a Bridget Connor and a Peter Dewar are on the same page for marriage reg in June quarter, 1880, marylebone, vol 1a, page 878

It may not be them but  :-\
Title: Re: Peter Jewers 1821
Post by: gunnerb on Wednesday 26 September 07 22:39 BST (UK)
Yes but ive had it sent me and its too small for me to see!!! GRRRGHH lol.
Title: Re: Peter Jewers 1821
Post by: gunnerb on Wednesday 26 September 07 22:41 BST (UK)
Wow thats just amazing, Thanks for that, my aunty ALWAYS insisted that it was spelt the wrong way and it was spelt the way you have said, god the mind boggles!!
Title: Re: Peter Jewers 1821
Post by: Gadget on Wednesday 26 September 07 22:43 BST (UK)
It might be worth £7 or even phone up to check that they match before buying.

G
Title: Re: Peter Jewers 1821
Post by: gunnerb on Wednesday 26 September 07 22:46 BST (UK)
It must be them, crikey you are bloody good at this!!! wish id have come on here months ago, ill order it anyway tomorrow thanks for that.. right now you can find my irish roots lol only joking!!!!
Title: Re: Peter Jewers 1821
Post by: Gadget on Thursday 27 September 07 07:22 BST (UK)
It might not be them but it could be - 'making an honest woman of her' when they were older  ;D

Welsh records, Scots records, some English and Canadian records but Irish - Nooooooooooooooooo  ;D

Gadget
Title: Re: Peter Jewers 1821
Post by: gunnerb on Thursday 27 September 07 23:38 BST (UK)
Hi, ill let you know as soon as the certs come through the post, take care, Sarah.
Title: Re: Peter Jewers 1821
Post by: JAP on Sunday 16 December 07 03:51 GMT (UK)
Here is a link to the continuation of this story:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=273690

JAP