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Could someone please look up Hannah McMahon born abt 1830
1851 had daughter Mary Ann McMahon registered in Broad Eye Stafford,
thanks in advance,
Nicki
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1841 H0107/1010/4 folio 37 page 23 St Mary and St Chad South pirehill Staffordshire
Broad Eye The Square
Bernard McMahon age 45 ag lab ireland
Bridget McMahon age 45 Ireland
James McMahon age 15 ag lab Ireland
Bridget McMahon age 15 Ireland
Peter McMahon age 13 Ireland
Hannah McMahon age 11 Ireland
Pam
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Did Hannah Marry?
1851 H0107/1999 folio 239 page 9 Stafford St Mary Staffordshire
3 Broad Eye
Bernard McMahon age 55 County Down transcribed Dovis Ireland Bricklayer
Bridget wife age 56 County Down Ireland Cake seller
James son age 26 Bricklayer County Down Ireland
Bridget dau age 23 Book Binder County Down Ireland
1851 H0107/2389 folio 320 page 24 Lanchester Durham
63 Berry lodge
Andrew McRittuck age 28 Lab at Iron Works Ireland
Judith wife age 25 Ireland
John son age 3 ireland
Peter McMahon age 23 born Ireland Visitor Lab at iron Works
Owen Burns visitor age 20 Ireland
Pam
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Here they are transcribed Mitnahon
1861 RG9/1906 folio 35 page 20 Stafford St Chad Stafford Staffordshire
11 St Chads Passage
Bernard McMahon age 65 widow Newry Ireland Bricklayers lab
James McMahon son age 34 married Newry Ireland bricklayer
James McMahon grandson age 2 Stafford Staffordshire
Johanna McMahon daughter in law age 28 wife of James Limerick ireland
Ellen McMahon grandaughter age 7 Stafford Staffordshire
Morgan McMahon grandaughter age 8 Stafford Staffordshire
Hannah Grindy? visitor age 27 Ireland Newry
Sarah Grindy visitor age 1 Longton Staff
John Grindy visitor age 5 months longton Staff
Pam
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Hello,
If you have not found it before, google Irish Diaspora Stafford and you will find a site about Irish immigration, and there is a listing of Irish families in Stafford. Bernard McMahon and family are named on it.
Handm
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Hello
I googled the Irish diaspora Stafford so James wife is Susanna not Johanna ? Very intering site. Thank you Handm
So 1881
James McMahon is a cousin with Mary Ann Rowley
22 Union Street
Michael Rowley lab age 34 they married 1870 bricklayers lab born Longton staff
Mary Ann Rowley age 31 Satfford Staff
Mary Ellen dau age 10 Longton
John Frances son age 6 Longton
Peter Rowley widow father age 61 gen lab county Wicklow Ireland
Florence Rowley age 12 months born longton staff
Next page
James McMahon cousin age 22 bricklayes lab Stafford Staffs
1871 RG10/ folio page Stoke up on Trent Staffordshire Reg district Stoke upon Trent Sub Reg District Longton
3 & 5 Edenson Road
Patrick Manning age 62 Registered Lodging house keeper West of Ireland
Margrett A Manning dau married age 27 west of Ireland
Mary A Rowley lodger mar age 21 Potter Stafford
Michael Rowley lodger mar age 24 lab Longton Staff
Mary Ellen Rowley age 6 weeks born Longton Staff lodger
John Cains mar age 46 lodger West of Ireland lab
Mary Cains mar age 50 West of Ireland
Thomas Baldwin lodger
William Bellis lodger
Aaron Vernon age 42 lodger married Buslem Staff
Hannah Vernon age 37married lodger Birkenhead Cheshire
James Owen lodger
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Peter Rowley head age 58 brick layers lab County Wicklow Ireland
Mary Rowley age 54 Kings County Ireland
Peter Rowley son age 12 Longton Staff
Pam
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On the 1861 census it has Morgan grandaughter age 8 I have looked and looked at it I wonder if it is possible it is Mary ann McMahon age 8. I cannot find a birth for a
Morgan McMahon. RG9/1906 folio 35 page 20
Could be James MacMahon Bernards son
1871 RG10/2816 folio 81 page 22 St Mary Stafford Staffordshire
21 Queen Street
James McMahon age 50 widow Bricklayer born Newry Ireland
Ellen dau age 18 Stafford Staffordshire
next page
James McMahon son age 15 all born Stafford
Frances W son age 8
Hugh son age 5
Bridget K dau age 3
Pam
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1891 RG12/2146 folio 83 page 50 Trentham, Dresden, Longton Staffordshire
21 Ronald Street
Michael Rowley age 44 bricklayers lab born Longton Staff
Mary A wife age 41 Stafford Staff
Peter Rowley father widower age 65 ireland
John F son age 16 pony driver Longton
Elizabeth dau age 6 Longton
Florence age 3 months Longton the other Florence must have died
Mary E Rose dau age 20 Potters scourer Longton
William Rose son inlaw age 20 Cab Driver Stone Staff
William Rose grandson age 1 month Longton
Transcribed Kose
1901 Rg13/2615 folio 27 page 46 St Mary and St Chad Longton Staffordshire
8 Lord Street
William Rose age 30 cab driver Stone Staff
Mary E wife age 30 potters warehousewoman longton
Frederick J son age 5 Longton
Ellen E dau age 1 longton
Michael T Rowley widow age 54 father in law age bricklayers lab longton
Florence Rowley sister in law age 10 Longton
Could this be Marys death
Mary Ann Rowley born 1855 died 1894 Stoke on trent Staffordshire dec quarter 6b 169
There is another death Wolstanton staff but the ages do not match for both but it depends who reported the death they might not have known the birth date.
Pam
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??Sarah Ann Grindy 1859 Stoke upon Trent Staffordshire sept quarter 6b 199 birth
You might have to buy the certificate to see mother and fathers names.
??John William Grindey Stoke upon Trent Staffordshire 1860
dec quarter 6b 164 birth
1901 RG13/2615 folio 28 page 47 ST Mary and St Chad Longton Staffordshire
20 Lord Street
John Francis Rowley age 26 Bricklayer all born Longton Staff
Ann F wife age 27
John T son age 2
Emily dau age 2 months
1901 Rg13/3910 folio 229 page 8 Blackburn St Michael and All Angels Lancashire
Notre Damme Convent
Elizabeth Rowley age 17 born longton Staffordshire Servant
Lots of young lady boarders
Pam
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Hiya all,
I would just like to add to the confusion of this family.
I have traced the "Grindy" family and the Hannah Grindy listed with the above McMahon family seems to be a Hannah McPerson and she married Joseph Grindy in 1858. Now what is interesting is that I've been in touch with a direct descendent of this family and she had no idea of Hannah's maiden name but thought that the name should be Mc Mann and possibly a scottish name. Mc Mahon isn't far from Mc Mann and could a Northern irish accent been mistaken for scottish accent??? I suggested she sent off for the marriage cert to see if there has been a mistake on the index or whether possibly Hannah was married to a Mcperson before.
Hannah had died before the 1871 census and the children are living with their father. There were two other children to Joseph Grindy and Hannah
Emily b.1863 Longton and James Bernard b. 1865 Longton.
Hope this helps you Nicki and that you come back to let us know how you are getting on with researching this family.
All the best and good luck
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Heloooo!
thanks for the info,It now looks like Hannah's daughter Mary Ann McMahon was illigitimate she then marries Joseph Grindey and they have 4 children Sarah,Emily,John and James.Hannah dies in 1969 ,James is only 4.From what you have found Anjo it looks like there was also another child Hannah Emily? The plot thickens, still have no more info on Mary Ann's father and perhaps never will know.
thanks again
nickolli
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Hi Nickoli
:-[ I missed a comma after Hannah.....it should have read two other children to Joseph Grindy and Hannah,
Emily b. 1863 and James Bernard b. 1865 sorry to confuse you further.
If you are certain that Mary Ann McMahon's mother Hannah married Joseph Grindy did you get the marriage cert???
I am presuming that Mary Ann's birth cert had a blank for father.
Did Mary Ann get married and did that shed any clues to her father?
The other thing that you might get lucky with is Mary Ann's chr record. In some cases even when the child is illigit the priest/vicar will state the reputed father.
(but not in all cases).
There is such a thing as bastardy bonds too which if Hannah tried to claim money off the father then there could be records. I am not too well up on how to check these bonds but i'm sure some kind soul on here could point you in the right direction.
Did you ever manage to find Mary Ann on any of the census?? Will gladly take a look if you havent the info.
Anyway All the best with your research and the best of luck to you.
Angela.
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Hope you still check in with rootschat. I have been doing this part of my tree again and found this.
Maria Anna McMahon chr 1 Jan 1852 St Austin's, Forebridge, Stafford, Staffordshire to parents George Deveny and Hannah McMahon.
(name is in latin so would be Mary Ann). I think this is your Mary Ann and now you have a possible father to her. Sorry if you already have this info but thought I'd share it anyway, just incase.
Most of the McMahon family that belong to Hannah used this church for christenings
All the best Anjo
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Thanks so much for the update, it has been quite some time since i have done any research but now you have intrigued me and cant wait to get started again.Thank you again. x