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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Staffordshire => England => Staffordshire Lookup Requests => Topic started by: NicoC on Thursday 20 September 07 17:07 BST (UK)
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Back again with the same bloke & still stuck! This is my G g grandfather. Henry James W Street (1864 Leamington) married Lilian Frisby 1890 Wolstanton, Staffs. My g g grandmother Alice McCrohan (1868 Brierley Hill) is living with him in 1901 in Birmingham. However, I cannot find a death for Lilian, a marriage for Alice & Henry (he later went by the name James) or any sign of Henry pre-1891.
I'm totally stuck! I'm assuming that his birth is Henry James Wareham Street (Warwick Q1 1864 6d 514) & from that I'm assuming that his parents are Henry James Street & Eliza Wareham (1856 Q4 6d 264 Birmingham) & I know that I'll need to get some certificates but I'd really like to find some trace of him or his parents anywhere in the censuses! The thing is I can't find any of them!! I can't find Henry jnr after in 1871 or 1881 & I can't find any reference to Henry snr & Eliza apart from 1871 where there is Eliza & Henery (sic) living in Wolstanton. I'm really confused & just need fresh eyes to look.
So if you're bored....!
Thanks
P.S. Posted in both Warwickshire & Staffordshire board
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When you say Alice Mc is living with him in 1901, is this as his wife? Is Lillian there too?
Are you sure Lillian died and he did marry Alice?
Have you found Lillian elsewhere in 1901?
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Here he is in 1881
RG11 2710 73 43
Hold on I'll type it up
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Interesting household!
H.J Street Head 48 bn Coventry widower Coal Merchant, but it says 'female' (guess it doesnt mean that)
H J W Street son 17 bn Leamington Junior School assistant
W Coney 21 Boarder Asst school master
F Kynaston 22 Boarder Ironmongers asst
Ann Rhodes 29 Married servant
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Ok, now I'm really stuck! Because the one in 1871 which matches Henry snr roughly in age has him as born in Upton, Lancashire & a solicitors clerk. I'm guessing that isn't a normal change of career! Actually looking at it now I'm thinking that it's Eliza in 1881 and she's given her name as Mrs Henry Street as the birth place matches. Was it usual for women to becoem coal merchants?
Here's 1871
RG10; Piece: 2847; Folio: 23; Page: 40
Henery James Street Head 36 bn Upton, Lancashire
Eliza Street 36 bn coventry warks (transcribed nicely on Ancestry as Wancks county :o )
Joseph Hardean Street 7 bn Lemmington
Thanks for finding 1881 though, the fact that they're living in the same street helps as now I know that I have the right family in 1871 & I think I found them in 1861 but dismissed them because they were in Lancashire, so now I can go back & find them there. I'll let you know how I get on!
Nico
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When you say Alice Mc is living with him in 1901, is this as his wife? Is Lillian there too?
Are you sure Lillian died and he did marry Alice?
Have you found Lillian elsewhere in 1901?
Sorry, yes she was living with him as his wife and went by Alice Street so I assume that they were married and that Lilian had died, however, I can find no record of her death & no record of Alice an Henry's marriage
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Hi
I have just started research on Henry J Street and his family. Would you please contact me so that we can exchange information. A lot of the replies that you have had to this post as been in some cases the information that i have found.
Look forward to hearing from you.
regards
Steve
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I can't find any reference to Henry snr & Eliza apart from 1871 where there is Eliza & Henery (sic) living in Wolstanton. I'm really confused & just need fresh eyes to look.
31st August the will of Henry James Street late of Tunstall in the county of Stafford Attorney’s Clerk who died 18 May 1875 at Tunstall was proved at Lichfield by Eliza Street of Tunstall Widow the Relict one of the Executors
RG9; Piece: 2879; Folio: 98; Page: 15
1861 census
Henry J Street 27 Ashton under Lyme Lancashire Solicitor's Clerk
Eliza Street 28 coventry
steve1956 welcome to rootschat
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Many thanks Ladyhawk. The contents of the "will" confirm that i have the right family on the 1871 census
regards
Steve
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I'm assuming that his birth is Henry James Wareham Street (Warwick Q1 1864 6d 514)
from that I'm assuming that his parents are Henry James Street & Eliza Wareham
I can't find any reference to Henry snr & Eliza apart from 1871 where there is Eliza & Henery (sic) living in Wolstanton
from family beta search confirms parentage of Henry James Wareham, his marriage to Lilian birth of their two children, birth of his dau to Alice ?
can find no marriage to Alice either ??? Have you checked the 1911 census for Henry James Wareham Street & Alice this should give an
approx. date for their marriage
Henry James Street (1832) father Samuel Street
Married 26/10/1856 St. Thomas Birmingham Warwick
Eliza Wareham age 24 (1832) father Joseph
Henry James Wareham Street
Christened 1/5/1846 Leamington Priors Warwick
Father Henry James Street mother Eliza
Henry James Wareham Street age 26 (1864) father Henry James
Married 1/5/1890 Tunstall Stafford
Lilian Frisby age 23 (1867) father Jonathan Lake Firsby
Francis Henry Lee Street
Christened 26/1/1891 Tunstall
Harry Street
Christened 15/3/1892 Tunstall
parents named as Henry James Street & Lilian
Ellen Lois Louisa Street
Christened 16/7/1897
St. Peter & St Paul Aston Warwick
parents named as James Henry & Alice
This looks a possibility for Henry James W mother Eliza Street nee Wareham on 1891/1901censuses
1891 Lady Bridge Bank, Tamworth Stafford
(Head Charles Clarson widow Surveyor & Builder)
Eliza Street Widow 53 Coventry Warwickshire Houskeeper
1901 7 Albert Road Tamworth
Eliza Street 65 Coventry widow Lets Apartments (Lodg. Ho) (Own Account)
Frank Street Tunstall age 10 (1891) Grandson
there are 2 boarders 1 visitor Mary Hinchcliffe School Mistress
not sure whether this relates to your Eliza Street
Eliza Street of 30 Albion Street Tamworth Stafford widow
Died 14 March 1922 Probate London 28 April to William Henry Brown
Schoolmaster. Effects £66 15s. 9d.
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Hello Steve1956
I have only just noticed how old this original post is 2007 ::) NicoC has not been on line for a long time, I would suggest you send a PM to try and make contact if you want to check or exchange information you have now made the required number of posts :)
Have a read through these posts from NicoC re the Street family maybe helpful :)
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,257835.0.html
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,256902.msg1434761.html#msg1434761