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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => London & Middlesex Lookup Requests => London and Middlesex => England => London & Middlesex Completed Lookup Requests => Topic started by: kascon on Tuesday 18 September 07 11:59 BST (UK)
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this is my adopted maternal grandmother. i have found her birth i think in barnet 1902 but i cant find her husband reginald charles giles. i have their marragie via a genaeology site owned by andrew millard 1926 barnet. can anyone find him for me.
i have no idea who their parents were or anything about them and my mum is refusing to cooperate. i do know that florence known all her life as Cis had a brother Jim or James can anyone help. i cant afford to get certs so dont even mention it.
my grandfather had a little wood/electrical shop in Romford Giles and son til 70's.
kas
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looking on BMD there are these births for Reginald C* Giles
unfortunalety i cannot tell you which one is yours!
Reginald Charles A Giles Q4 1897 Southampton 2c 19
Reginald Charles Giles Q1 1902 Reading 2c 347
do. Q4 1903 Edmonton 3a 429
Reginald C Giles mmn Penny Q2 1912 Yeovil 5c 646
do. mmn Payne Q3 1913 Wandsworth 1d 1170
it would help if you knew the area he was born or if after 1911 his mothers maiden name.
the first one Reginald Charles A Giles shold be on the 1901 census
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hi
it might be the edmonton one as i know a lot of the family are from london. unfortunately my mother has gone in for an operation today and cant be reached for a few days. i possibly could try to contact my cousin as his father was supposed to have doen the tree a few ywars ago. but we dont really have any communication with him and he is 10 years older than me you cant really call us close.
i know my mum said the family didnt know much about him as he had had a row with his family over something that had happened years before and he didnt speak to his brothers. i think it had something to do with his dads death but dont quote me.
kas
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i hope your mothers op. goes ok.
there does seem to be this gap in information between 1901 & 1911 simply because the mothers maiden names were not recorded in the BMD until Q4 1911 and the 1911 census is not available yet due to the 100 year rule.
if you could possibly find the marriage certifcate for Reginald & Florence then this should give both their fathers names, (providing they weren't illegitimate) we could then possibly find Reginalds father on the 1901 census, the marriage cert shoudl give his age also and would help narrow down which birth is his.
also did he have any other siblings? this could help to find them. if the siblings wer eborn after 1911 then the mothers maiden name would be included in the index and if they were born prior to 1901 we could find them onthe 1901 census.
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Hi Kas
i cant afford to get certs so dont even mention it
Speaking as one who nearly had to take out a second mortgage when I started my own research, I know how expensive it becomes if you have to send for more than one or two @ £7 a time
However - sometimes it's the only way to get the information you need to help compile your family tree and to make sure you have the right person. It's so easy to go off down the wrong track if you don't have anything to back it up.
I love that surname Bodimead - it's really unusual but there are quite a few Reginald Giles born within a few years of Florence
Perhaps you could consider just starting first of all with Florence's birth certificate. That will give you both her parents names and her mothers maiden name. With that information, we should (hopefully) be able to find them on the 1901 and earlier censuses for you
When you have all the available info on Florence and her family, you could then consider buying a copy of the 1926 marriage cert to get Reginalds age at that time and his fathers name and occupation. Again - this information should help us trace him on earlier censuses.
With a bit of luck - that may be all you need to buy to get a lot of the information you want
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Hi again
I noticed that you mentioned that Florence had a brother James. I suspect he was younger than Florence as the only James Bodimead on the 1901 census was born 1883 and was a soldier
Although Bodimead was a less common name than Giles, there are still 39 entries for that surname - all bar 2 in the London/Middlesex areas
I am sending you a pm which may (or may not) help
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ok thanks for the pm. something i just remembered is i know roughly when they died. i can sort of go on life events for me as she died at 6.00 xmas morning. i know cos it ruined xmas for us. and i know he died 6 months before that as it was mentioned in the funeral. that she just couldnt go on without him. he had alzheimers and was blind for the last 10 years or so of his life and she had always been a mother hen round him anyway. she had always looked after him. it was said that she just didnt have anything left to live for. sad. i know it was between when my son was 4 and 8 when we lived in the house at shoebury. and he is 22 now so that would be about 13/17 years ago. that would make it about 1985/1990. not sure my maths is terrible.
so if anyone has access to death records?
kas
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Hi Kas
. It's so easy to go off down the wrong track if you don't have anything to back it up.
I
as i have done !
i am looking for their deaths, can you just confirm is it Reginald or James death i am looking along with Florence?
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one of 8 Florence May Giles deaths to choose from 1984 - 2005
Dec 1991 Southend/S Florence May Giles d.o.b 19 Feb 1902
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here i think is reginalds death going on the info. you gave about him having passed on 6 months prior to Florence.
Reginald Cuais Giles Aug 1991 Southend/S d.o.b. 10 Apr 1901
that would tie in with this birth:~
Reginald Curtis Giles Q2 1901 Mile End Old Town 1c 524
:)
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yep that sounds like them. thats great i had an inclin if i mentioned the deaths it would lead to the births. i would never haave guessed the c was for curtis though. i naturally thought it was for charles. i have been in touch with the person who posted on his website the marraige of cis and reg and he says he was the person who helped my uncle with his research years ago. he is in touch with other of cis' siblings. didnt know she had any other than jim so this is great. but even he says he couldnt find out much about reg. maybe now we can find out more than when he looked as things aremuch more available now. after all its got to be at least 12 years since the research was done as my uncle has been deadfor about 10. he is going to look at the weekend and see if he can find the research he did. so hopefully by monday i will have more to go on.
thanks everyone.
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Hi Kas
That's great news - let's know if you find anything we can help you with. As you say - there is so much more available now than 12 years ago
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ok guys here goes
i have received the information from Dr. Millard and now my mum is being a little more co operative. seems she had been worried about her operation which was why she was not being that coop.
new information.
Reginald CURTIS not charles Giles married Florence May Bodimead in 1926 in Barnet
his parents were Joseph Curtis Giles dob 1880 in poplar and
Rosa Sophia Paterson dob 1880 stepney
Joseph parents were Frederick William Giles dob 1855 and Ellen Aiano dob 1853 m poplar mar qtr 1876
Rosa parents were Andrew Paterson dob 1856 and Harriett ? cant find a marraige for them? to know her surname. can anyone help there?
can anyone come up with a census report after 1881 or before with any of these names on them?
cheers
kas
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something else i forgot to mention i have all the information for relations of theirs from 1900 onwards but i would like a census report for 1901 for Alfred George Bodimead dob 1875 Barnet (i have the 1881 for him)and his wife Sarah Ann Dellar dob1878. cant find anything in census report for that name only Deller. in 1901 they would only have one son Alfred William born that year.
cheers
kas
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I am reading a query re Florence May Bodimeade (1902-1968) and the inquiry is about her husband Reginald Curtis Giles Born 1901 in Bow England. How can I reach the person making the inquiry because I am researching Reginald Giles for a friend and would love to share notes.?
Naomer
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Hi Naomer
Kascon who posted the original query was last online on 30 August 11,but as long as she hasn't changed her email address she should be notified that we have posted here and hopefully will come back online to reply to you.
Regards
Carol
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Hello Carol
I am new to this so please forgive my questions. Do I just wait to see of Kas returns to this site and if so she will read my message and maybe reply to me as she will have my email address form this site? Naomer
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Hi ,
No she should reply here on this site and then if the two of you find that you have the same family in common,you can then personal message each other.
It's always good to get some info on the boards as it could help others in the future(like the fact that you have found Florence's name here today ;D)
Email addresses are not allowed here in public as they could easily be scammed,so we only use personal messages to exchange private stuff or info about living people.