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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Cornwall => England => Cornwall Lookup Requests => Topic started by: aussiegalx on Saturday 15 September 07 08:48 BST (UK)
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Almon is still a huge mystery ??? A relative now tells me that his wife in 1871, Mary Ann SNELL, is listed as a WIFE, but head, and pauper in the 1871. I just found the entry on FreeCen and that is correct.
I can't find a death for Almon and it is such a strange name, easy to mistranscribe.
His wife Mary Ann SNELL was living in 40 Fore Street in St Blazey....
Is it common to have a widow say she is a wife, or is Almon somewhere else?
What happens if the head (Mary Ann) is a pauper? Could her husband be somewhere?
This family is one huge brick wall and if anyone could help, I'd be very grateful.
Jenny
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Could be him in 1861
RG9; Piece: 1547; Folio: 67; Page: 14
Bescoppa Common??, St Austell
Holman SNELL, head mar 24, Tin miner, born Cornwall, St Stephen
Mary Ann SNELL, wife mar 25, born Cornwall, St Austell
See what you mean about his name being mistranscribed. In 1851 he was Almond SNELL.
Allaman SNELL married Mary Ann COUSENTINE, Jun qtr 1859, St Austell, 5c 202.
Ian C
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Thanks for your reply ;D Yep that looks like him ;D And yeah it is a mess.. that is why he is missing in the 1841.. no sign of him
I am wondering if he could be alive in 1871 but living elsewhere, as his wife says she is his wife, not widow.. and yet who knows where he can be.
Mary Ann soon remarries a John COCKING, and I am pretty sure they come over here to Australia in the 1870's.
But if Almon did die.. or didn't.. that is the question :o
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Thanks for your reply ;D Yep that looks like him ;D And yeah it is a mess.. that is why he is missing in the 1841.. no sign of him
Hi Jenny,
can't make out if you know that only Almon is missing in 1841 or you can't find the family- they seem to be transcribed as Mull
HO107; Piece 146; Book: 4; Folio: 31; Page: 12
It is a really poor copy but there is no sign of anyone of that age in the family-the youngest child is Samuel aged 10 yrs
According to submissions on Family Search - Philippa was 'Bone' and there are 3 other 'Bones' with them in 1841- perhaps children from earlier marriage? I was wondering if Almon was a grandchild but Family Search has church record of his baptism - parents James and Philippa (apologies if I am going over old ground here).
As you say- a mystery!
best wishes
heywood
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No apologies necessary, it is always good to hear other opinions.
I am very grateful to the moderator KRIS who has helped a lot. But now this mystery just gets deeper and more confusing.
On some census sites in 1841 they are transcribed as MELL, MULL etc lol. But can't find Almon.
Also can't find him in the 1871 so no idea where he is. I have his baptism, he is the son of James and Phillipa, born in 1836.
The BONE children are very confusing, as Phillipa was BONE when she married James SNELL. I already have another topic trying to figure out if Phillipa BONE was Philadelphia SKIDGEMORE who married William BONE and thus had the BONE children that were in the census. The St Stephen in Brannel OPC showed me the James SNELL to Phillipa BONE marriage, she didn't say if she was a spinster or widow ::)
Another relative can not find any Almon SNELL deaths, neither can I.
Why do you think Mary Ann would say WIFE not widow? Unless Almon is somewhere...
This is just so confusing.
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Hi Jenny,
This Almon of yours is a real pest isn't he. I can't find him either. As you say Mary Ann lists as wife, married in 1871. I Can't find him in the census and I have been through Deaths quarter by quarter from 1863 when his youngest child was conceived until 1873 when Mary Ann remarries and I don't see him. There is no Snell with a name anything like Almon listed in that 10 year period.
Maybe he deserted Mary Ann, or went overseas and was to send for her and died or just changed his mind, so she waited 7 years to remarry. Its hard to say why some women list as married when they are Widowed, but some certainly do. Maybe she is widowed, maybe not. We have seen with his name, where not one but both his names cause enumerators and transcribers problems so maybe he is out there and I just can't find him. I tried for ages last night and again today looking in 1871 and 1881 census and I am sorry but I don't see him. If he is alive in England he really is hiding. Hope someone else can find him...........Kris :'( :'( :'(
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Kris, thanks for looking ;D Yes Almon is a pest, but you are a STAR. I really appreciate all your hard work, I really do. You have been great.
If someone like you who works so hard on it can't find him, and neither can I.. maybe he just can't be found.
It is so strange, isn't it? I will double check when she marries but it is under 7 years I think.
Maybe he did just run off? You would think having a name like Almon would be easy to find, but it is the opposite isn't it, as it could be transcribed as anything.
Thanks so much for all your hard work, I really am grateful. And I will make sure to tell my relative Jan that you have tried really hard too.
I wonder if this is ever going to get solved...
Thanks Kris ;D
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She remarried John COCKING in 1873 in St Austell. They then came over to Australia with her kids so...
Hmm I wonder if he ran off and emigrated somewhere?
These pests are sent to try us lol
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Last child born 1864 - conceived 1863 so if he did vanish he may have been gone nearly 10 years when she remarried.
I am curious about this - probably not him but an Almond Snell married in Wisconsin in 1903.
http://users.rootsweb.com/~wilangl2/vitals/marriages/marriagess.html
I wonder who he was and where he got the name from.......Kris :D
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GTMA.. I was just wondering if he took off to America. They would have to get that name from somewhere.. Almond would be dead but what if that was his son from another marriage over there.... very interesting...
I am looking at Ancestry now then to see if he turns up in an 1870 census or something...
This is very interesting. I'd LOVE to have ancestors that went over to the US hehe
Thanks again Kris, this is very interesting.
Jenny
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Sorry Jenny,
Looks like he is a no go. b 1864 Wisconsin parents James and Barber and James was born in America. Should have looked before I mentioned him......Kris :'(
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It's ok. It is the thrill of the hunt ;D
It is just annoying when they hide though. I wonder if he went to Wales, Australia or the US. Or he may have been transcribed as just A or anyone...
Aww well maybe this is just someone that can't be found. Maybe he didn't want to be.. he could have been hiding deliberately?
Anyway thanks heaps for looking for me.
Jenny
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I too have searched and searched- in fact thought I had sent a message which I cannot find- senior moment ???
The 'Wife' status for Mary Ann has been overwritten by an entry by enumerator which looks as though it could be 'Head' - vaguely see the embellishment for 'H'.
I was also wondering if Almon is shown as the father of Absalom, the youngest child - just another 'proof' or otherwise.
will continue the search ;)
heywood
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Oh that is an interesting one... is he the father of Absolom..
Thanks for that.. another mystery...
Jenny
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It was just a thought- that' all- as Kris says- you would have him there till at least 1863 for the conception!
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It's a good thought.
I just wish I had access to the West Briton Advertiser or something in that time frame to see if there was any mention of the missing Almon lol.
Aww well... this is definately intriguing.
I appreciate all the help.
Jenny