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Please can somebody help me. I'm trying to find the baptism record of an Isaac Wormleighton born appro 1825, in according to the 1851 census Enderby. Now I have searched the parish records for Enderby with no luck and he is not on the IGI. I am now thinking perhaps he isn't C of E but I don't know where to begin looking. Another thing I know is on his marriage certificate of 1844 his father is recorded as William Wormleighton deceased. If anyone could help I would be extremely grateful. ???
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Welcome to Rootschat
Do you have the reference for 1851 or any other family members so I can find this record
I can only see Issac Wormleighton born 1815 Oadby
Tricia
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HO107/2089; Folio: 30; Page: 15
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1841 - HO107/600/18; Enderby; District: 6; Folio: 27; Page: 12
Village
William Wormleighton 30 W . H . M* (summat to do with knitting, anyone know?)
Elizabeth Wormleighton 30
Richard Wormleighton 13
Mary Wormleighton 10
Harriott Wormleighton 4
*Expected FWK - as per 1851 Isaac ....
This could be Dad, or maybe a relative ?
What occupation shown for William on the Marriage Cert ?
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1841 - HO107/604/8; St Margaret With Bishops Fee, Leicester; District: 15; Folio: 16; Page: 24
East Leicester, Wharf Street
All born in County
Martha Foster 40 Frame Work Knitter
Joseph Foster 25 do
Ralph Foster 15 do
Henry Stones 20 FWK
Ann Stones 20
John Misome 20
George Cobley 15 Lab
Isaac Wormleighton 15 Lab
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summat odd about the IGI for Enderby - up to 1845.
It doesnt have those older children we see with William and Elizabeth ....
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could this be the marriage of Harriet Wormleighton?
Q2 1849 Leicester 15 123
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Greeting’s Folks…..
Updated for Mad Pants
quote from Toni :~
could this be the marriage of Harriet Wormleighton?
Q2 1849 Leicester 15 123
Unquote ....
Here is that Harriett’s Marriage details :~
St. Margaret’s Parish Church. Leicester.
Entry No.367, APR 3, 1849, after Banns
RUBEN MARTIN, full age, Bachelor. Frame Work Knitter. of FLEET St,
Son. of THOMAS MARTIN, Frame Work Knitter.
HARRIET WORMLEIGHTON, full age, Spinster. of FLEET St,
Daughter. of WILLIAM WORMLEIGHTON, Frame Work Knitter.
Wits: CHARLES HALES, MARTHA JOINER.
Also. :~
Entry No.487, FEB 1, 1846, after Banns
WILLIAM BURDETT, full age, Bachelor. Frame Work Knitter,
of CONSTITUTION HILL,
Son. of JOHN BURDETT, Frame Work Knitter.
ELIZA WORMLEIGHTON, full age, Spinster. of LONDON Rd,
Daughter. of WILLIAM WORMLEIGHTON, Frame Work Knitter.
Wits: JOHN GOFFEY, ELLEN WORMLEIGHTON.
Hope this helps.
MIKE.
Greeting’s Again Folks…………..
Could this be Isaac’s Burial Details ?
Welford Road Cemetery. Leicester.
Details for Plot No. C.H. 734.
734 S WORMLEIGHTON ISAAC 1852 Sep 26 27 44 Fleet Street Saint Margaret 1285 Framework Knitter
734 F Tattersall Frederick 1889 Nov 4 6 Melbourne Street Saint George 30967
734 F Tattersall Esther 1895 Feb 23 36 Laurel Road Saint George 37195
Baptism. Details for Harriett Wormleighton?
Harriett Wormleighton. Born. 9th. Jan. 1821.
Baptised. 10th. September.1821.
INDEPENDENT CHURCH. Narborough. ( Next Village to Enderby )
Father:~ William Wormleighton.
Mother:~ Sarah née Spence.
No record found for Isaac though.
MIKE.
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Pardon me if I'm missing something here but according to the 41 census Harriot is 4, yet of full age in 49?
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Thanks to all who replied, ok I'll try and answer all the questions raised. What I know so far is :
The Issac in the 1841 census is the correct Issac, in Wharf Street, in fact it is Martha Fosters daughter he marries in 1844.
In 1851 he lives in Fleet Street St Margaret's with his wife Hannah and children Sarah, Catherine and Edward.
Mike correctly picked up his burial details in Welford road cemetary as being buried in plot CH734.
Issac's father is stated to be a frameworkknitter on his marriage certificate.
This is all I know, it is his earlier life that is a problem at the moment. The William Wormleighton that Newf mentioned only married Elizabeth in about 1830, so unless he was illegitimate that can't be his father.
Can anyone else add anything to this as I really have reached the 'brick wall' here?
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Sorry to have gone over old ground - didnt realise you had done as much research...
The William Wormleighton that Newf mentioned only married Elizabeth in [about] 1830, so unless he was illegitimate that can't be his father.
Well, given they have a 13+ year old Richard in 1841, one of 'em must have been previously married or Richard was indeed illegit .... if so, why not Isaac, only 2 years older?
It is strange that those records miss out the other kids. Might be worth inspecting the original Register.
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don't know if this is connected:~
William Wormleighton m. Frances Glover by licence
on 16 Feb 1811 at Bitteswell Leicestershire
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Hmm, well according to the parish records William and Elizabeth Spencer married on the 28th March 1830 at Enderby, unfortunatly it is the old style certificate so no ages etc are given on it.
Well Mary and Harriot were definatly born after this date as the records confirm their baptisms as 1836 and 1837, so where does Richard fit in? I'd better go back to the IGI.
However I was quite interested in the Harriet Wormleighton Mike found baptised in Narborough in 1821. Though what is an Independant church? Is it methodist, baptist or something else? ???
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Greeting’s Again Whizzy.
Other Baptisms for Independent Church Narborough
All with Parents William & Sarah Wormleighton.:~
Samuel Wormleighton. Born 1st. Apr. 1805. Bapt. 2nd. Apr. 1805.
William Wormleighton. Born 26th. May.1807. Bapt. 9th. Jun. 1807.
Mary. Wormleighton. Born. 20th.Jun. 1819. Bapt. 3rd. Jul. 1809.
Thomas Wormleighton. Born. 1st. Aug. 1811. Bapt. 19th. Aug. 1811.
Joseph. Wormleighton. Born. 16th. Nov. 1813. Bapt. 27th. Dec. 1813.
Eliza Wormleighton.. Born.18th. Sept. 1815.Bapt. 14th.Dec. 1815.
Elizth .Wormleighton. Born. 28th. Apr. 1818. Bapt, 28th. May. 1818.
I understand that Independent Church is a follower any of the faiths
But wished to remain independent of the main stream.
But having read those above they sound a lot like Methodist Records.
Who always put both Birth & Baptism dates on the entries I have read at the Records Office at Wigston.
Plus Baptism for Enderby St. John the Baptist ( C o E.)
With Parents William & Elizabeth Wormleighton.
Eliza Wormleighton. Bapt. ……..13th.Jan. 1833.
Mary Wormleighton. Bapt. …… 16th.March.1836.
Eliza Wormleighton. Bapt. …….. 6th Aug. 1843.
Hope this helps in some way
MIKE.
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Mike,
Many thanks you're a gem.
I think a visit to Wigston is in order I'll try and get there before their 'housekeeping' week at the end of Sept.
Abi ;D ;D
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Sorry to have gone over old ground - didnt realise you had done as much research...
The William Wormleighton that Newf mentioned only married Elizabeth in [about] 1830, so unless he was illegitimate that can't be his father.
Well, given they have a 13+ year old Richard in 1841, one of 'em must have been previously married or Richard was indeed illegit .... if so, why not Isaac, only 2 years older?
It is strange that those records miss out the other kids. Might be worth inspecting the original Register.
:)I have found where Richard Wormleighton came from he was indeed an illegitimate child of Elizabeth Spencer Baptised 29th June 1828 as Richard Spencer Harris.
One little question solved but there was no mention of an Isaac Spencer though ....
Abi
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I wonder if Elizabeth and Sarah were sisters, or cousins... or have you already checked on that? ( thinking that the maiden name might have been Spencer for both?) J.J.
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Just in case maiden name was used rather than a married name....an Elizabeth Spencer married a Richard Cooper Harris
April 9th 1782 St. Mary, Leichester ...
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Hi JJ,
I had considered that and therewere a lot of Spencer's in Enderby at the that time. I have to sit down and try and sort them into some semblence of order ::)
It could be a possibilty though.
Abi
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Hi - have you found the Enderby Village site? Transcriptions of Births, Marriages & Deaths plus census 1841 though to 1901. There was an Independent Chapel in Enderby - baptism records at Wigston Record Office - not sure of the time scale but I think about 1840 to about 1900. (The chapel was still standing a couple of years ago)
google - theyorks.org.uk/enderbyvillage%201.
Valry
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Hi Valry,
Thanks you the information about the website but I somehow accidently came across it a few weeks ago. I keep meaning to go down to Enderby and have a walk around but I can never seem to get there.
Many thanks
Abi
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??? ???
Well, I tried looking through the medthodist church records which are very confusing, but from what I managed to deduce they are largely stored in London and only a few select years are kept at the records office. I didn't manage to locate any information about Wormelighton family members. So I'll now try another train of thought, does anyone know what the Independant church in Narborough was, that Mike mentioned above?
Abi
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Greeting’s………. Abi….
Last Monday evening
I spoke with the Curate of St. John’s Parish Church Enderby.
He seems to think that the
“ Independent Church for Narborough” could well be the
Congregational Church in the centre of the village.
MIKE.
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http://www.narboroughcongregational.org.uk/
website for church...but the email address was found live on the net so it may be too spammed to bother with answers...You never know until you try, though, I guess.... ;D J.J.
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Hi Abi
There is/was an Independent Chapel in Enderby. Took info from this sometime ago at Wigston Record Office - unfortunately did not take fiche numbers but have headed my notes :
'A Register of Baptism belonging to the Congregation Assembly in the Independent Chapel in Enderby'. Have also written (United Reform).
Have just found: Enderby United Reform Church births & baptisms (microfiche) 1838-1905 DE 4777.
Hope it helps - Valry
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Many thanks Mike, Valry and JJ I'll try those suggestions too. I don't suppose anyone knows whether there was a congregational church in the area of Bedford street / Fleet street at all in the 1840's?
Sorry to appear so dim but I haven't got any maps of the area at that time.
Cheers Abi
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Don't know if this helps but later, in 1881:
George F. DICINSON ( actually Rev. Dickenson) was the "Independent Minister Of Enderby Chapel"
He resided at "Chapel St. The Manse, Enderby" in 1881
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An email address listed here under Chapel Street Enderby...perhaps
someone can help you there...?
http://www.urc5.org.uk/?q=book/export/html/15
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:-\ Hi JJ,
I opened the site you suggested regarding the Nrborough congreational church, but unfortunatly it wasn't much use.
Have tried the email address you suggested so we'll wait and see.
Thanks Abi
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Are you still looking for info regarding Isaac Wormleighton.
Isaac's parents were William Wormleighton and Sarah Spence who
married 18 July 1803 at Enderby.
Isaac was the youngest of at least 10 children.
If you want any more info just ask
My cousin is a direct descendent of Isaac.
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Welcome Woodsman, whizzy hasn't been on for some time but will contact by p.m. to notify in case notification is off. In the meantime...enjoy the site. Beginner information here http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/board,47.0.html
;D J.J.
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hello woodsman,
I am still looking for any information regarding Isaac wormleighton. I am a descendant of his son Edward. He is a man I can find very little about, apart from what can be gleamed from his death certificate and 2 census entries. I know his father was william wormleighton but it is his earlier life I am interested in. Do you have any earlier info ?
Regards Whizzy.
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Hi Whizzy
Isaac Wormleighton's parents were William born c 1779 and Sarah Spence c 1782
They Married 18 July 1803 at St John the Baptist, Enderby. They had at least 10 children, Isaac being the youngest. In the Record Office at Wigston there is an
Examination of William Wormleighton [ref 21 D 51 / viii / 8] where he is trying to gain settlement. In this document it names his two youngest children, Harriet and
Isaac aged 16 and 11. I have been researching the surname Wormleighton for a number of years as I had an aunt whoose maiden name was Wormleighton. She was descended from Edward's brother Isaac. If you want to get in touch my
e-mail address is (*)
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Hi Whizzy
Isaac Wormleighton's parents were William born c 1779 and Sarah Spence c 1782
They Married 18 July 1803 at St John the Baptist, Enderby. They had at least 10 children, Isaac being the youngest. In the Record Office at Wigston there is an
Examination of William Wormleighton [ref 21 D 51 / viii / 8] where he is trying to gain settlement. In this document it names his two youngest children, Harriet and
Isaac aged 16 and 11. I have been researching the surname Wormleighton for a number of years as I had an aunt whoose maiden name was Wormleighton. She was descended from Edward's brother Isaac. If you want to get in touch my
e-mail address is (*)
woodsman
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