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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Dublin => Topic started by: kooky on Tuesday 04 September 07 13:36 BST (UK)
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Have John Edward Boshell, marrying Susan Dowzard 14th July 1874 at St.Thomas, Dublin. He lived at 83, Seville Place and was a ship's mate. His father, also John Edward Boshell was a mercantile clerk. John died in June 1888 aged 47 +8mths. Therefore was born in 1840/41
I would love to discover who his mother was, either from his birth or his parents' marriage.
All the addresses I have for this family are in Dublin.
Could anyone suggest where I might look next?
Kooky
ps John and Susan are my gt gr parents.
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Hi Kooky,
I did a quick search on Griffiths and on the Dublin 1911 Census, as I'm sure you did too. No Dowzards anywhere in Ireland in Griffiths and 2 families in Dublin in 1911.
I can see 2 possiblilites: the Dowzards moved to Dublin betwen Griffiths and 1874 when your John Edward got married, or he met her on one of his overseas journeys as a ship's mate. Of the two I think the first is most likely since the male line continued in Dublin.
What is the earliest record of Dowzards in Dublin you have found from directories etc?
Wishing you well with your search,
Peter.
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Peter, thank you for your interest.
It was the BOSHELL family I am interested in here!
I await the 1901 Dublin census on line with interest.
Kooky
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There's the 1851 census - Heads of Household for Dublin only - it's in the National Archive and also on a CD.
I found it useful to point me in the right direction mid-1800s ... maybe someone would be able to do a lookup for you.
Note that poorer households often weren't in Griffith's Valuation because of subletting, etc - even if the name isn't there, the family could be living in the street.
eadaoin
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Boshell in the 1851 Dublin heads of households CD
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All Ireland search for John Boshell on the site below
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Thank you both! How much would I have to pay to look at the details for the Church Baptism in 1841?
Kooky
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Hi Kooky
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Noel, thanks. The Boshells were protestant, so this is not he! :( Kooky
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Kooky
Slaters Directory for 1894 shows a Mary Boshell-Grocer and Baker- in Finglas
Regards Quaxer
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Quaxer, thank you very much for your interest.
I'm afraid that Mary Boshell is not my relative.
Kooky
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On the Hertiage Dublin Website,
There is two marraiges for Bolshell
Boshell Jacobus -Fagan Anna 23-06-1784 St Andrews
Boshell John-Bryan Dorothy 28-10-1781 Ss Michael And John
Would these be John's grandparents. Bolshell is not a popular name in Ireland so there is a high possibly that these would be related.
There was a burial of an Edward
Boshell Edward 08-10-1879 08-10-1879 St James
And a few births
Date Of Birth Date of Baptism Surname Firstname Parish
30-03-1821 Boshell Bridget Lucan R.c.
29-01-1816 29-01-1816 Boshell Eliz Rathfarnham R.c
23-12-1849 Boshell Joannes Sandyford R.c.
23-12-1849 23-12-1849 Boshell John Christopherus Sandyford R.c.
16-02-1783 Boshell Patt Ss Michael And John
10-12-1770 Boshell Thoms St Andrews
10-12-1770 Boshell Thoms St Andrews
Also check graveyards for their graves
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Thank you for your interest!
Firstly, as far as I know the Boshells were not Roman Catholic.
I am waiting for Glasnevin to put on line deaths before 1898.
Where was /is St. James?
Kooky
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Kooky,
If the Boshells were Protestant then it is possible but unlikely that any were buried in Glasnevin , Mount Jerome being more likely. Most city graveyards were in very poor sanitary state by mid 19th Century so new larger grave yards had to be created in the then suburbs.
The only St James' Graveyard I can find is behind No.121 James' Street with records in the RCBL. If this is not correct will a reader wiyh superior knolwledge interject.
Regards Quaxer
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Quaxer,
I have a large bible which was given to Susan Dowzard[Boshell] by the Rev. R Hemphill on the occasion of her marriage in July 1874. Unfortunately she died in 1882. There are 6 death entries.
The first is Susan's. It states -'Funeral will leave 6, Charlemount parade for Finglas Graveyard etc'
I assumed wrongly that it meant Finglas, but apparently it is now Glasnevin. There is another post about this somewhere. I will try to find it tomorrow.
Capt. John Edward Boshell died in 1888 in Whitworth Hospital. The graveyard is not mentioned.
The other deaths are Dowzards, and they are in Mount Jerome.
Kooky
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The post was Glasnevin or Finglas. I still cant link it! :-[
Kooky
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The post was Glasnevin or Finglas. I still cant link it! :-[
Kooky
Is this the thread you are looking for? "Finglas cemetery-Glasnevin?"
www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,202092.0.html
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Yes! Thank you very much.
I thought it might give some background , so that Quaxer can understand what happened to me at Finglas!
Kooky
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Kooky
My source work based on The Irish Times 1859-1901 shows the following:
December 1st 1882 on P.1 death of Susan (wife of John E.Boshell)
Another matter......is the death of James Bushell in November 1884 of any interest to you?
Regards Quaxer
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Quaxer,
thank you, I have wondered which paper the cuttings are from! Is there a way I can view the entry myself?
I am not aware of a Boshell death in 1884.
Kooky
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The Irish Times Archive is available on line where you can view scans of the original articles - : http://www.irishtimes.com/search/archive.html
There are various subscription options including one-Day. The archive hold details of Irish Times newspapers published since 1859.
Shane
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I know I am probably being very thick here, but how do I pay euros, when my account is in £sterling?
There is a baptism on the IFHF site for instance, which would cost 5 euros. :-\
Kooky
PS 2 pages in and no nearer John Boshell's mother ::)
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If you pay by credit card they convert the currency for you.
(they usually take a smallish percentage as a fee.)
Shane
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OK!Thank you.
Kooky
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?Kooky
Firstly'thanks to Shane for his input
Kooky do you want the 1884 reference from The Irish Times which relates to a Bushell not a Boshell ?
Quaxer