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Title: come across some great info today about rev Norman Mcleod
Post by: troods on Tuesday 04 September 07 13:35 BST (UK)
Hi all

Just been reading some great info regarding Rev Norman Mcleod and his migration to first canada and then New Zealand via Australia. Now my interest lie in that my gggrandfather captained the ship 'the Margaret' out to Oz in 1852 that bought the rev.
I have been trying to trace the whereabouts of my Matson family throughout Canada for awhile now and found the info relating to Rev Mcleod fascinating.
I just googled his name and bingo a heap of sites came up.
Certainly sounds like Rev Mcleod was a very interestin man.

A very happy Troods at the moment.
Title: Re: come across some great info today about rev Norman Mcleod
Post by: jeffster on Wednesday 05 September 07 03:01 BST (UK)
Have any first names for Matson?? and/or possibly years (unless we've already helped you )

Cheers
Jeff
Title: Re: come across some great info today about rev Norman Mcleod
Post by: troods on Wednesday 05 September 07 06:57 BST (UK)
Hi Jeff

I have Cptn Thomas Matson marrying a Elizabeth Preston in 1841 Halifax and they had the follwing children
George b 1845 New Foundland
John
Maria Sarah
Rebecca Elizabeth
Thomas Jnr
The whole family left St Anns in 1852 along with Rev Mcleod to Oz.
I do know that Cpt Thomas was born in Kingston Upon Hull in 1819.
His occupation at his time of marriage was given as a master mariner.
Thats about it on the family I am afraid.
Cpt Thomas died in 1858 on board  a ship he later navigated up to the Torres Straits area from wounds he received from a accident  along with son John.
The children mother had previously died in 1854.

So I have abit of a gap regarding this Matson family and how and what year they arrived in Canada.

Regards
Troods
Title: Re: come across some great info today about rev Norman Mcleod
Post by: J.J. on Wednesday 05 September 07 14:59 BST (UK)
 ;D Actually they left in 1851, arrived 1852 according to the shipslist site...
http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/passengerlists/Sebim.html
(from St. Ann's, NS 1st November 1851, arrived April 10th 1852...)
Title: Re: come across some great info today about rev Norman Mcleod
Post by: Janice M on Wednesday 05 September 07 17:15 BST (UK)
Came across this site

http://www.barrylaidler.com/laidlerfam/laidlerall/index2.htm

http://www.barrylaidler.com/laidlerfam/index.htm

Directory Halifax Nova Scotia
(Did the Matson's continue to be seamen?)
http://www.ourroots.ca/e/page.aspx?id=279504

http://www.ourroots.ca/e/toc.aspx?id=1278

Janice
Title: Re: come across some great info today about rev Norman Mcleod
Post by: Janice M on Wednesday 05 September 07 18:21 BST (UK)
Here are some links:

Nova Scotia Genealogy
http://nsgna.ednet.ns.ca/

Nova Scotia Historical Vital Statistics
https://www.novascotiagenealogy.com/

Nova Scotia GenWeb Project
http://www.rootsweb.com/~canns/

Nova Scotia Genealogy Links
http://www.genealogylinks.net/canada/nova_scotia/index.html

Nova Scotia History
http://www.littletechshoppe.com/ns1625/histindx.html

Genealogy & History Links Nova Scotia
http://www.islandnet.com/~jveinot/cghl/nova-scotia.html

The Nova Scotia Genealogy Resources Page
http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/~ab443/genealog.html

Cyndi's List - Nova Scotia
http://www.cyndislist.com/novascot.htm

Janice

Title: Re: come across some great info today about rev Norman Mcleod
Post by: Janice M on Wednesday 05 September 07 18:43 BST (UK)
More Links:

Kingston Upon Hull
http://www.hullcc.gov.uk/portal/page?_pageid=221,203941&_dad=portal&_schema=PORTAL

Genuki - Yorkshire
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/

UK Genealogy - Yorkshire
http://www.ukgenealogy.co.uk/yks.htm

Yorkshire - GenWeb
http://www.rootsweb.com/~engyks/

Yorkshire Family History
http://www.yorkshirefamilyhistory.genealogist.net/

Janice

Title: Matson Sailors and 'Down Under'
Post by: doverrog on Sunday 06 January 08 13:34 GMT (UK)
I don't know of any links between our Matson families but I though you might be interested in this Henry Matson and his adventures:-
Builder of the cottages, Henry Matson, was born in Kent in 1814 and emigrated with his brother to Australia in 1835. Shipwrecked off Tasmania, he settled there working as a harbour master and investing in two stations and a quarry. Many early Melbourne buildings were built of stone from the quarry. Living between Tasmania and Melbourne foralmost 30 years, Matson decided to emigrate to Christchurch in 1862 following the death of his first wife. Here he founded H. Matson and Co, one of the largest stock and station firms at the time. Matson’s offices were in the ....Following Matson’s death in 1885 his second wife Edith and son Conway Matson inherited the estate."
“GEORGE III 394 tons Convict ship 14.12.1834 dep London 205 convicts, Capt W.H. Moxey. 12.4.1835 Hit rocks Derwent R 133 lost, 161 survivors included Henry Matson, first mate.”
1838 Bought land in Georgetown Tasmania and 31 December 1838 bought land in Colac, Victoria, Australia.
1839 Mr MATSON will fill in for Matthew Curling FRIEND - Port Office duties - George Town.
Port Officer George Town, Tasmania.Moved to Australia..
1843 Mrs Matson and 4 chdn dep Port Phillip
THE WRECK OF THE "ISABELLA"
On 18 June 1844 the "Isabella" left Melbourne headed for London, England and Leith, Scotland. She was a 422 ton barque under the command of Captain J. F. Hardie. Her journey had started in Sydney and since arriving at Melbourne on 6 April 1844 had loaded a cargo of wool.
When she left Melbourne there was a strong fair wind and thick weather which had increased to a hurricane by 21 June when land was sighted. Captain Hardie mistakenly thought this to be part of the Kent Group of islands and tried to navigate through what he believed to be a well known channel of those islands. Unfortunately the land was actually part of Flinders Island and the ship ran aground on a reef of rocks on the morning of 22 June 1844.
All the passengers and crew were able reach shore safely before the ship broke up. After some days they made contact with a party of sealers and a few days later reached the "Flying Fish" which was on the other side of Flinders Island and about to sail for Melbourne. They were all taken aboard the "Flying Fish" and arrived at Melbourne on 2 July 1844.
On 9 September 1844 the Postmaster, Henry D. Kemp, issued a list of some letters he was holding at the Melbourne Post Office. He said that these letters had been rescued from the wreck of the "Isabella" and would be re-forwarded to London in the first direct mail. This list, with addresses abbreviated for privacy reasons, was published in the "Port Phillip Herald" on 17 September 1844, and appears hereunder:
MATSON, Robert - Rochester, Kent, England
1844 Henry went with his Uncle James Matson to Bacchus Marsh
1847 Port Phillips Directory - MATSON Henry - settler, Acheson River, Western Port    1848-9 Henry Matson sold Acheron and moved to Bullengarooke Station Near Bacchus Marsh.                    
Alice died about 1857. Henry moved to Christchurch and re-married. Built large stock and station firm and auctioneering buisness. In New Zealand Henry Matson's estate was called ‘Delce’.
'Triggs bought a farm just west of the railway crossing at Papanui next door to Henry Matson’s estate, Delce’.
'People buried here include the ‘grandfathers’ of the family, Henry Matson, 71, who died on 24 October 1885.'
The death certificate records that Henry died of Paralysis and Old Age. It also records that he had been in New Zealand for 20 years at the time of his death.
Another 'colourful' Matson was Mrs John Matson who became known as 'Klondike Kate' in the days of the gold rush in the Yukon. My greatgrandmother always maintained that Klondike Kate was a sister-in-law of James Matson who visited the family in Dover sometime around 1900 and went to stay with John Matson in the Yukon. However there were more than one 'Klondike Kates' and a 1930s newspaper cutting also refers to Mrs John Matson as 'Klondike Kate'.
Let me know if you have any Matsons in the East Kent area as , who knows, there may be a link??
Title: Re: Henry Matson
Post by: Migs17 on Thursday 24 January 08 23:47 GMT (UK)
Hi - I hope I am using this correctly - just joined  so I could answer your queries and information about the Matson clan here in the Antipodes. This is my family too - I was from NZ and now live in Tasmania.  Matsons in NZ - Henry's line , his cousin Henry Matson from 58th Foot Regiment & New Zealand Wars, and !! Capt Tom Matson who was the Captain of the Barque "Margaret " that took the settlers to Waipu from Novia Scotia - there is an obelisk with his name on in Waipu.
I posted some info on our Henry (1814 Delce Farm) on B-G Forums last night.    
HENRY MATSON b. 1814 Wingham, Kent.
Son of Robert Matson m.Elizabeth Moon 11 Aug 1808

Matson/Manifold Family Tree  byJohn Thomas Matson, son of Henry Matson and Alice (Manifold).
This dates from Robert (no birth date) and Elizabeth Moon b.Jan 9 1788.

Robert Matson         May 22,  1809 
James Moon             July 26,  1810
John  Matson            May26,  1812
Henry  Matson          June 17, 1814
George Matson         Dec 5,    1817
In ‘Matson of St Albans’ (Christchurch NZ 1952)
The story of Henry Matson of Delce Farm is well presented.
Henry Matson was the Chief Officer on ‘George III’ he was cleared of any misconduct in the shooting of convicts.
The incident is well covered in ‘An Imperial Disaster’ by Michael Roe
Pub: Blubber Press, Tasmania 2006 ISBM 0 908528 329
I now live in Tasmania (b.New Zealand) and wrote an article about Henry Matson for The Examiner newspaper in 2006.
Henry, 1st mate Geo III, Harbour Master at George Town, Van Diemen’s Land married Alice, the daughter of William and Mary Manifold(Barnes) of Kelso (n.b. George Town - 2 words, and Tasmania was Van Diemen’s Land if researching.)
Henry crossed Goodwin, the editor of The Cornwall Chronicle a paranoid,  slighted Henry and  Matthew Curling Friend in the newspaper. Henry was refused a pay rise and felt there had been a ‘slur cast on his character’.
 3 of the sons of Robert Matson here in Tasmania at some time through the 1800’s - Henry Matson - Harbour Master at George Town; George Matson, who worked for the Bank of Australasia (not Australia) in Hobart; and James Moon Matson.
The oral history I knew as I grew up, was that Henry and John came from England together, both as ship’s officers, pioneering myth?
George Matson? a banker with the Bank of Australasia in Hobart.  Index for the Launceston Examiner 1852 - 1859, he was formerly of H.M. 7th Royal Fusiliers, and dropped the first ball of shot from the shot tower in Hobart.
 Henry’s brother James Moon Matson worked the Bacchus March quarries with Henry in Victoria. During this time Alice stayed at Purrembete with her brothers’ families, as was often the case in Colonial Australia. This was harsh country, harsh times - recession period, gold rush, bush rangers, snakes and fires- a difficult place for a woman away from the comfort of her family. Some of this is written up in The Bostock diaries.
James Moon Matson. The first reference I have found for him here in Tasmania is as the chief officer on ‘Charles Kerr’ bound for Java. Visited Launceston 21 December 1835. As Harbour Master, Henry Matson in 1835, also acted as Customs Officer according to notes from John Thomas Matson. The two brothers would have been together briefly then.
James is  in 'The Tregurtha Log’ in 1836. In Feb 1837, Tregurtha took up land with brothers Henry and James Matson in the Western Districts of Victoria.’ He(James) went with the first settlers to Victoria and was a passenger on the ‘Henry’ 3 March 1837 from Launceston(VDL) to Port Phillip (Victoria). In note 282 of ‘The Tregurtha Log’ … ‘James Moon Matson. His brother Henry was Harbour Master at George Town in 1838.……….James was involved in various pastoral activities. Apparently he never married.’
Robert? I have no record of him in the Antipodes. I presume he stayed home to take over the farm.
There are three(3) Henry Matsons.
1 - our Henry. Born 1814 Wingham, Kent.
2 - his cousin Major Henry Matson m. Isabella de Thierry, 58th Foot Regiment - New Zealand Wars. Settled in Parnell, Auckland, New Zealand. Correspondence in NZ archives has a letter to his cousin Henry (our Henry Matson).
3. Henry Manifold Matson . Henry and Alice’s son who stayed in Victoria at Purrumbete when the remainder of the family went to New Zealand in 1862 - and became the property manager.
 
Title: Re: come across some great info today about rev Norman Mcleod
Post by: doverrog on Wednesday 30 January 08 16:02 GMT (UK)
Hi Migs17
Your information is really interesting and I've sent it to my contact in New Zealand.
I posted some info on our Henry (1814 Delce Farm) on B-G Forums last night
Can you give me a link to the above please?
Title: Re: come across some great info today about rev Norman Mcleod
Post by: Migs17 on Thursday 31 January 08 01:02 GMT (UK)
Doverrog hello!! 

So good to hear from you - the BG Forums info is the same as the thread on Rootschat - so would rather just stay with Rootschat - I was born a Matson in Christchurch in New Zealand in 1945, and moved to Tasmania in 2002 and when I found that the only reference I could find to Henry here was less than flattering; Henry crossed paths with Goodwin, the editor of The Cornwall Chronicle who, suffering paranoia, slighted Henry and his superior Matthew Curling Friend in the newspaper. Posibly resulting from Goodwin’s interference through the newspapers Henry was refused a pay rise and felt there had been a ‘slur cast on his character’I decided to redress this by presenting an article to the Examiner newspaper to put his name in the archives - I am more into social history than genealogy.

 HENRY MATSON b. 1814 Wingham, Kent.
Son of Robert Matson m.Elizabeth Moon 11 Aug 1808

The family  dates are from the Family Tree commissioned byJohn Thomas Matson. His mother Alice Manifold (d.May 26, 1861)-  was the niece of William Barnes who gifted the Cataract Gorge in Launceston to the people of Tasmania. 

In ‘Matson of St Albans’ (Christchurch NZ 1952)
The story of Henry Matson of Delce Farm is well presented - I think this is online - but I have a photocopy of this I could email to you.

I have  ‘An Imperial Disaster’ by Michael Roe and could photocopy any pertinent pages.

There were at least 3 of the sons of Robert Matson here in Tasmania at some time through the 1800’s - Henry Matson - Harbour Master at George Town(2 words not one, and VDL, not Tasmania.At the time Henry (and George, and James) were here, Tasmania was Van Diemen’s Land.
).  George Matson with the Bank of Australasia (not Australia) in Hobart;   and James Moon Matson.


I have a copy of  ‘The Wished For Land’ and have contact with the Manifold and Bostock families, and a couple of receipts from Henry Manifold Matson - son of Henry and Alice. (photo attached)
The other Matson that I have had an interest in is Capt. Thomas Matson, master of the barque 'Margaret' - as I used to live in Mangawhai 20 minutes from Waipu in Northland, New Zealand, and the obelisk outside the Waipu Early Settler Museum has reference to Capt.Matson - 'sailed from Cape Breton for Adelaide Oct. 1851; arriving April 1852, from whence they were transipped to Auckland). Unfortunately, the book about the Nova Scotian settlers has transcribed Matson to Watson.  I sighted the original signature and it was that curly M that could be read as W - and the curator was immoveable on it even tho' the name Matson was on the obelisk. I see threads about Thomas that I yet have to explore properly.

If I can be of help here in Tasmania I'd love to hear from you.
Migs17
Title: Re: New Zealand Matsons
Post by: doverrog on Thursday 31 January 08 11:18 GMT (UK)
Hi Migs17.
Once again thank you for this fascinating information.

The family  dates are from the Family Tree commissioned by John Thomas Matson. His mother Alice Manifold (d.May 26, 1861)-  was the niece of William Barnes who gifted the Cataract Gorge in Launceston to the people of Tasmania. 

In ‘Matson of St Albans’ (Christchurch NZ 1952)
The story of Henry Matson of Delce Farm is well presented - I think this is online - but I have a photocopy of this I could email to you.

I have  ‘An Imperial Disaster’ by Michael Roe and could photocopy any pertinent pages.


If possible I would love to take you up on your kind offer of all three items.
Although I believe I am descended from a different branch of the Matsons, I find the social history fascinating too.

I will send you a personal message as it would probably be easier to send the above via email.

In your research for the ancestry of Captain Thomas Matson, I don't know if you have tried this web site which is the Scottish records.

http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/?gclid=CNzP0YmvoJECFQqIlAodoXG2tg

Unfortunately all my Matson info. is based around their East Kent branches.

I do have a possible clue though:-
John Matson (1746-1805) of Wingham, Kent married Mary Roberta Harvey. They had 9 children including Richard (1771-1848). Richard Matson was son of John Matson Esq, Chief Justice and Governor of Dominica, uncle of Commander Henry Jas Matson, cousin of Commander Geo Wm Matson.
Richard was an Admiral and he married Elizabeth Palmer in 1804.
They had a son named Melville Gore Matson who was born about 1805 at Ness Cottage, Inverness, Scotland. Melville lived to about 1846 and was Captain of the 39th Regiment. He had at least two children of whom I know of only one.
Elizabeth Sarah Cumming Matson born about 1827 at Ness Cottage. I don't know the name of Melville's wife but based on the daughter's name it may have been Cumming. 
Elizabeth married an Edward Fraser Advocate at Scottish Bar, Sherrif-Substitute of Sutherlandshire in 1854. The couple did not have any children.

This branch have both a Scottish and a maritime connection so perhaps it may just be where Captain Thomas links in?
Good hunting.
Title: Re: come across some great info today about rev Norman Mcleod
Post by: doverrog on Thursday 14 August 08 14:16 BST (UK)
Hello Troods,
I was wondering how you got on with your research?
Did you manage to find more about Captain Thomas?
There are certainly records for Matsons in Hull who could well be descendants or siblings.
How about his family? Did you find them in Waipu or another settlement?

Title: Re: come across some great info today about rev Norman Mcleod
Post by: troods on Saturday 27 December 08 23:21 GMT (UK)
Hi everyone

I am finallly back into my genealogy after a month and abit off due it being full on at work - retail- and I am currently going through my old postings etc.

I have had no luck in regards to locating Captain Thomas's family in Hull, Yorkshire but word on the family grape vine is that we are related to the Kent Matsons. I am waiting on a reply from a fellow researcher who has done loads more work than me on this line than me so hopefully they can fill in the gaps.

Thanks for all those sites Janice. Great list.

Also I had some great help from a lady in NS who gave me some insight into the area of Halifax and New Foundland, where my ggrandfather George Matson was born in 1845.

Many thanks to you all for you ideas and snippets of info I appreciate it all.

Regards Troods
Title: Re: come across some great info today about rev Norman Mcleod
Post by: doverrog on Sunday 28 December 08 13:02 GMT (UK)
Good to hear from you again. I'm interested to hear of the possible link to the Kent Matsons, as that would certainly be news, so fingers crossed.
In the meantime Happy New Year to everyone.
Roger
Title: Re: come across some great info today about rev Norman Mcleod
Post by: k matson on Tuesday 07 September 10 10:07 BST (UK)
troods    may have some interesting stuff from ireland i think it may hold the key to our ancestors regards ken matson
Title: Re: come across some great info today about rev Norman Mcleod
Post by: troods on Tuesday 07 September 10 12:20 BST (UK)
Hi Ken

Great to hear from you - sounds very interesting indeed - tell me more lol

Thanks Troods
Title: Re: come across some great info today about rev Norman Mcleod
Post by: doverrog on Tuesday 07 September 10 12:21 BST (UK)
troods    may have some interesting stuff from ireland i think it may hold the key to our ancestors regards ken matson

The Irish stuff sounds really interesting as I have so far been completely unable to identify our Captain Thomas Matson.
My only possible piece of info is from the 1871 census -
Thomas Matson aged 59 born IRELAND and living in Patrington, Yorkshire. .
Wife is Ellen aged 56 born IRELAND. The family have two boarders, Mary Boltin aged 17 born Hull and Bridget Pollen aged 17 and born Hull.
Son Thomas aged 20 born Walmer. Kent.
Daughter Maria aged 18 born Hull, Yorkshire.
(There is a record of birth in the Elham Registration District in June Quarter 1855 2a 637 which may be this Maria.)
Son Edward aged 13 born Partington, Yorkshire
(There is a record of Birth for an Edward Matson in the June Quarter of 1860  9d 205 for Hull Registration District which may be this Edward.)
It seems as though this family may have moved between Partington and Walmer. There are other Matsons in the Walmer area at the time who may prove to have links?
As Walmer is on the coast and has seafaring links this may also fit.

Looking forward to hearing what you have found.
Title: Re: come across some great info today about rev Norman Mcleod
Post by: doverrog on Tuesday 07 September 10 12:36 BST (UK)
Hi everyone

I am finallly back into my genealogy after a month and abit off due it being full on at work - retail- and I am currently going through my old postings etc.

I have had no luck in regards to locating Captain Thomas's family in Hull, Yorkshire but word on the family grape vine is that we are related to the Kent Matsons. I am waiting on a reply from a fellow researcher who has done loads more work than me on this line than me so hopefully they can fill in the gaps.

Thanks for all those sites Janice. Great list.

Also I had some great help from a lady in NS who gave me some insight into the area of Halifax and New Foundland, where my ggrandfather George Matson was born in 1845.

Many thanks to you all for you ideas and snippets of info I appreciate it all.

Regards Troods

Hi again do you have the marriage of Nicholas Hall to Ann Matson on the 15th March 1852 at Wye, East Ashford, Kent?
Ann is named in father’s (John) will of 1854.
1861 census shows the family living at St. Marylebone with Ann aged 37 and Nicholas aged 35. Sisters Charlotte 27 and Emma (Steddy) 29 are recorded at the same address.
Nicholas and Ann have 3 children all born Marylebone -
Ellen aged 1
Mary C. (no age given)
Nicholas J. aged 7
Title: Re: come across some great info today about rev Norman Mcleod
Post by: k matson on Wednesday 08 September 10 09:29 BST (UK)
Troods, I am conferring with Michael Matson of Dublin family,originally from Cork.
The 1st known of this line is a Capt. John Matson forn 1790  in Gothenberg,
Sweden who moved to Cork and married a Rebecca Wheeler.  I even have his photo when he was much older.  Their children were Benjamin b. 1816 d. 1890
Thomas b. 1819 did not know what happened to him ( I think he is our descendant)
John b. 1822 George b. 1824 Isaac b. 1829 (died at sea)
In the 1830s in Newfoundland there were 3 Matson Captains, John Thomas and George.  I think these were him and 2 sons.  I have a lot of info too much to send, I was previously 99% sure we were from Hull,, I thinkk I was wrong.  I also have photos of  Johns Sons (2)  Regards  Ken  Matson.
PS  There is a lot of likeness in the photos, especially of your George and John Jnr.  Perhaps DNA will work it out.
Title: Re: come across some great info today about rev Norman Mcleod
Post by: doverrog on Wednesday 08 September 10 13:17 BST (UK)
Troods, I am conferring with Michael Matson of Dublin family,originally from Cork.
The 1st known of this line is a Capt. John Matson forn 1790  in Gothenberg,
Sweden who moved to Cork and married a Rebecca Wheeler.  I even have his photo when he was much older.  Their children were Benjamin b. 1816 d. 1890
Thomas b. 1819 did not know what happened to him ( I think he is our descendant)
John b. 1822 George b. 1824 Isaac b. 1829 (died at sea)
In the 1830s in Newfoundland there were 3 Matson Captains, John Thomas and George.  I think these were him and 2 sons.  I have a lot of info too much to send, I was previously 99% sure we were from Hull,, I thinkk I was wrong.  I also have photos of  Johns Sons (2)  Regards  Ken  Matson.
PS  There is a lot of likeness in the photos, especially of your George and John Jnr.  Perhaps DNA will work it out.

According to all the research I've carried out, 'Isaac' is an unusual name for the Matson family.
I wonder if these records could refer to a son of the Isaac born in 1829? 

Record in Auckland Public Library that in 1874 Isaac Matson (25) to New Zealand “Loch Awe” 22nd June 1874.

This is the death entry for the husband of Martha nee Graham. Fairly conclusive since one of their children was named Isaac Carroll Matson.
MATSON, Jas Death
Father:Isaac
Mother:Carrol Sarah
Age at Death:43Y
Death Place:Morwell
Reg Year:   1886 Reg State: Victoria
Ref Number:13862

CD-Rom State Library Melbourne - Pioneer index
Sarah Jane d/o James Matson and Martha Graham b Edge 1870
James Graham s/o      “                    “           b Malmsbury 1873
Margaret Marie d/o   “                 “            b Tr Ar 1875
Isaac Carroll s/o      “                “           b Tr Ar 1878
Martha Catherine d/o  “                “           b Morw 1885

Please let me know what you think?
Title: Re: come across some great info today about rev Norman Mcleod
Post by: k matson on Thursday 09 September 10 01:19 BST (UK)
As you say Isaac is an unusual Matsonname however,I  do know that some are tight with their money (joke).
Isaac Matson (dob 14.7.1829)
This was the youngest son of John (1) Sweden
He is thought to have been the victim of cannibalism on the part of his crew when they lost the trade winds and provisions ran out.  His crew were subsequently hanged.  I have nothing to substantiate this but I understand that this information was gathered by Douglas Matson, through conversations with his father and other relatives.  I the story is true, there must be a record somewhere.
Regards Ken Matson
Title: Re: come across some great info today about rev Norman Mcleod
Post by: doverrog on Thursday 09 September 10 13:03 BST (UK)
As you say Isaac is an unusual Matsonname however,I  do know that some are tight with their money (joke).
Isaac Matson (dob 14.7.1829)
This was the youngest son of John (1) Sweden
He is thought to have been the victim of cannibalism on the part of his crew when they lost the trade winds and provisions ran out.  His crew were subsequently hanged.  I have nothing to substantiate this but I understand that this information was gathered by Douglas Matson, through conversations with his father and other relatives.  I the story is true, there must be a record somewhere.
Regards Ken Matson

What a fascinating event. I wish I could work out if there is a link to your line and those I know about.
While on the unusual names for Matson, I have this record -
Births, 2nd quarter 1886, Faversham, Kent, Vol 2a Vol 867 Douglas Matson. Also Arthur James Matson (on the same page) his twin, or a cousin?
Do you happen to know if this is an ancestor of the Douglas Matson you refer to?
In the ancestors of the above Douglas, born 1886, there is the family name Isaac on the mothers (Orpin) side so that would also look like a possible link?
Title: Re: come across some great info today about rev Norman Mcleod
Post by: J.J. on Thursday 09 September 10 15:46 BST (UK)
Here is an account where they say it almost happened to another ship's officers...( last paragraph )  :P
http://books.google.ca/books?id=I_S1D8cnTiEC&pg=PA161#v=onepage&q&f=false

I wonder if Captain Ross Mattson was related to the ancestors  ;D Matt's son or Matsson being the original form of the name, father Mats/Matt
  ( p.s. there are lots of Isaac Mattson, Matson listed here http://search.labs.familysearch.org  )

Have you ever contacted anyone descended from George Matson & Rebecca Hoar to see if they have more?
( Helena A (Matson) Brinkman c.1851, Thomas Wm Matson c. 1852 ( also a master mariner) George Matson c.1857, Rebecca ( Matson) Frazer c.1856, Harriet E. (Matson) Watts c.1861)


 J.J.
Title: Re: come across some great info today about rev Norman Mcleod
Post by: k matson on Wednesday 29 June 11 10:30 BST (UK)
Here is an account where they say it almost happened to another ship's officers...( last paragraph )  :P
http://books.google.ca/books?id=I_S1D8cnTiEC&pg=PA161#v=onepage&q&f=false

I wonder if Captain Ross Mattson was related to the ancestors  ;D Matt's son or Matsson being the original form of the name, father Mats/Matt
  ( p.s. there are lots of Isaac Mattson, Matson listed here http://search.labs.familysearch.org  )

Have you ever contacted anyone descended from George Matson & Rebecca Hoar to see if they have more?
( Helena A (Matson) Brinkman c.1851, Thomas Wm Matson c. 1852 ( also a master mariner) George Matson c.1857, Rebecca ( Matson) Frazer c.1856, Harriet E. (Matson) Watts c.1861)


 J.J.
Here is an account where they say it almost happened to another ship's officers...( last paragraph )  :P
http://books.google.ca/books?id=I_S1D8cnTiEC&pg=PA161#v=onepage&q&f=false

I wonder if Captain Ross Mattson was related to the ancestors  ;D Matt's son or Matsson being the original form of the name, father Mats/Matt
  ( p.s. there are lots of Isaac Mattson, Matson listed here http://search.labs.familysearch.org  )

Have you ever contacted anyone descended from George Matson & Rebecca Hoar to see if they have more?
( Helena A (Matson) Brinkman c.1851, Thomas Wm Matson c. 1852 ( also a master mariner) George Matson c.1857, Rebecca ( Matson) Frazer c.1856, Harriet E. (Matson) Watts c.1861)


 J.J.
Here is an account where they say it almost happened to another ship's officers...( last paragraph )  :P
http://books.google.ca/books?id=I_S1D8cnTiEC&pg=PA161#v=onepage&q&f=false

I wonder if Captain Ross Mattson was related to the ancestors  ;D Matt's son or Matsson being the original form of the name, father Mats/Matt
  ( p.s. there are lots of Isaac Mattson, Matson listed here http://search.labs.familysearch.org  )

Have you ever contacted anyone descended from George Matson & Rebecca Hoar to see if they have more?
( Helena A (Matson) Brinkman c.1851, Thomas Wm Matson c. 1852 ( also a master mariner) George Matson c.1857, Rebecca ( Matson) Frazer c.1856, Harriet E. (Matson) Watts c.1861)


 J.J.