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Title: Date please and sex
Post by: aspin on Sunday 02 September 07 21:59 BST (UK)
Now before I ask don't say anything Derek  ;D ;D ;D :-[
 
Can anyone put a date to this litte one also

and the sex  ??? ??? :-\ :-\ :-\

a family baby but not sure who

Elizabeth
Title: Re: Date please and sex
Post by: aspin on Sunday 02 September 07 22:00 BST (UK)
sorry I forgot the baby silly me

Elizabeth
Title: Re: Date please and sex
Post by: PaulineJ on Sunday 02 September 07 22:08 BST (UK)
I think he's a boy (no hair ribbons).

date. no idea...

Pauline
Title: Re: Date please and sex
Post by: jc26red on Sunday 02 September 07 22:49 BST (UK)
I would also say boy... poor little soul having to wear that ;D
I'm useless at dating but I would say 1905-1910.

Why don't you post it on the restoration board (*) then OR will pick it up easily and.....
its a great pic to restore  ;)

jc


(*) Moderator Comment:  moved
Title: Re: Date please and sex
Post by: irene. seabrook on Monday 03 September 07 07:28 BST (UK)
I think it maybe a girl because she does not have much hair to hold a ribbon maybe the reason why there are no ribbons. I have a picture of my mother in law born 1911 and she is with her brother born over a year before her and she has a similiar outfit on. Her brother has a suit on but with a lace collar. Good luck Irene
Title: Re: Date please and sex
Post by: old rowley on Monday 03 September 07 08:16 BST (UK)
unfortunately, as I have said before, children, toddlers and young babies can, at times, be very difficult to date and even more difficult to say whether it is a boy or girl, and to me this is the case here. firstly the dating aspect is made more difficult due to the fact that the white pinafore that the child is wearing hides all the detail of the garment underneath. The only thing that I can say about the child's outfit is that it appears to have been made from a veleteen material to give it that "sheen" and that the stockings underneath would have been full length. The shoe's that the child is wearing have a double strap, single buttoning fastening to them and are open to the top (similar to Clarke shoes than many remember from their own childhoods). The toy that the child is standing next to was more than likely a studio prop rather than the child's own toy and would have been used in the photograph to a) fill the frame so that the child did not just stand in an empty space, and b) to give the study a more "natural" look as though the child had only just stopped playing with the toy to have its photograph taken. The toy it self would be a "pull along" and would have either been a single standing toy or would have had a vehicle attached by shaft's that one would attach by a small strap or chain to the horse's body. The toy it self could date from anywhere from about 1880 to well into the 1910's. Which brings me on to my guesstimate of a date. Photograph wise, I would suggest a date line of somewhere between 1900 and 1910. As for the sex of the child there is really no way of being 100% sure about this but with the evidence of a horse as a toy I would have first thought that it might be a boy (would not a girl have been given a doll to pacify her to stand still?).

old rowley
Title: Re: Date please and sex
Post by: d.weaving on Monday 03 September 07 08:17 BST (UK)
Now before I ask don't say anything Derek  ;D ;D ;D :-[
 
Can anyone put a date to this litte one also

and the sex  ??? ??? :-\ :-\ :-\

a family baby but not sure who

Elizabeth
Its a boy Elizabeth..and just like me ::)....a nice boy with it. 8).bless. 8)
Derek.
Title: Re: Date please and sex
Post by: aspin on Monday 03 September 07 08:53 BST (UK)
got a pair of shoes
These were my auntie Ella's first shoes and she wanted me to have them are they the shoes
She was born 1913
Elizabeth
Title: Re: Date please and sex
Post by: aspin on Monday 03 September 07 08:56 BST (UK)
I don't think they are I have had another look the shoes on the little one has two bars

I was hoping this was my Dad born 1908

Elizabeth

Knew you would pick this up Derek  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Date please and sex
Post by: aspin on Monday 03 September 07 09:04 BST (UK)
Thank you all for your replies
I have read through the replies again and wonder if this outfit is home made as my grt grandmother was a seamtress and would she have made this outfit for her grandchild just a thought .Rowley I think you are right about  the studio settings

Elizabeth
Title: Re: Date please and sex
Post by: sparrett on Monday 03 September 07 09:08 BST (UK)
Our Rootschat Prue has a book about dating  Rocking Horses I seem to remember..
I know this is not exacly one, but if she sees this thread, she might help by assessing the toy.
Sue
Title: Re: Date please and sex
Post by: cazza59 on Monday 03 September 07 09:11 BST (UK)
I've coloured this pic on another thread and I agree with JC, to me it's a little boy, looking at the eyes.

Caz
 
Title: Re: Date please and sex
Post by: aspin on Monday 03 September 07 09:14 BST (UK)
I have looked at the other thread and you have made a nice job Caz
Thanks Elizabeth
Title: Re: Date please and sex
Post by: miagre1 on Monday 03 September 07 10:05 BST (UK)
A dated photograph from 1906.

Both were boys. The elder being my Grandfather born 1901.

Yes their Father did look like that he had been involved in a mining accident.

Why did most of my Relies have a photo taken in a back yard?   ;D

Best regards George
Title: Re: Date please and sex
Post by: miagre1 on Monday 03 September 07 10:20 BST (UK)
Another circa 1907.

The elder boy was born 1898.

The baby girl born 1906.

I have noticed on my family photos that baby boys have a "boot" style of footwear, whereas girls have a more open style. (May be hand downs of course)

Photo taken in a back yard - no change there then.  :(
Title: Re: Date please and sex
Post by: aspin on Monday 03 September 07 14:33 BST (UK)
George have this photo restored its lovely

the back wall looks ok I have the nappies on the line or the dust bins its a laugh anyways  ;D ;D ;D

Thanks all of you again for your help just wish they had put names on the back of the photo's to help us

Elizabeth :-\ :-\