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Title: Cannot find her ?
Post by: Quiller on Sunday 02 September 07 10:03 BST (UK)

Could someone please help find a death date for a Martha Tutin nee Wilkinson B.1841 Gravesend. I know she was living in Clay Cross Derbyshire according to 1901 Census, as a Widowed Mother in Law.

Any help gratefully received and acknowledged.

Quiller

Title: Re: Cannot find her ?
Post by: Necromancer on Sunday 02 September 07 10:12 BST (UK)

do you know if she stayed in the Chesterfield area ?

Or should the search be broadened out ?

Title: Re: Cannot find her ?
Post by: Quiller on Sunday 02 September 07 13:21 BST (UK)

Hi Newf

Thanks for your interest, the short answer is no,  I have no idea what became of Martha after 1901.

Anything you can come up with, appreciated.


Quiller

Title: Re: Cannot find her ?
Post by: Necromancer on Sunday 02 September 07 17:32 BST (UK)

FreeBMD as you prolly know, peters out by the late 19-teens - and she (using a few variants and just Marthas (no surname) in Chesterfield) -  with a Death date of @1837-1847  (ie let FreeBMD calculate age from that range of DoBs and compare ...) doesnt show...

So either:-

• she lived past 1920 ish
• she's totally mistranscribed
• or we need to use the forename-only technique in a broader search - which seems to 'kill' FreeBMD
• or knuckle down to trawling the Full GRO Index !

Title: Re: Cannot find her ?
Post by: Quiller on Sunday 02 September 07 19:36 BST (UK)

Hi Newf

Will use your 3rd option when perhaps FBMD is not so busy, in the meantime will begin GRO search. Have noticed a Martha Tutin getting married in Lambeth 1910 (she originally came from south) but that would put her getting married at 70, possible I know but unlikely ??

Anyway thanks for your input, do appreciate it.

Quiller

Title: Re: Cannot find her ?
Post by: philaf on Wednesday 05 September 07 14:03 BST (UK)

Hi,

I tried a search on Marthas b. abt 1841 in the Ancestry version of the FreeBMD index which is very quick - no likely hits I'm afraid. On Ancestry you can do wildcard searches so I tried Mar* & Tut* which would find Marthas Marys etc and Tutin, Tuthill etc. - again no likely hits.

Phil.

Title: Re: Cannot find her ?
Post by: Necromancer on Wednesday 05 September 07 16:08 BST (UK)

You can do all of that and more in FreeBMD - plus be working on a bang up to date database   :)

Title: Re: Cannot find her ?
Post by: philaf on Wednesday 05 September 07 16:40 BST (UK)

Hi Newf,

I wasn't aware that wildcards worked on Freebmd - I see now that they do which is good.

But - I can't find a way of entering year of birth in Freebmd with a tolerance like you can on Ancestry.

Is it possible?

The Ancestry search is infinitely faster on vague searches.

Phil.

Title: Re: Cannot find her ?
Post by: Necromancer on Wednesday 05 September 07 16:45 BST (UK)

yes Ancestry certainly has that advantage.

You can enter DoB when searching Deaths as @yyyy-yyyy - FreeBMD

Its worth browsing the help stuff on FreeBMD.

And its so much faster this last few months since they increased the server count .... but for 'vaguer' searches when its busy, its dire.

I just find so many times that Ancestry's back-level version disappoints.