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Title: German Research
Post by: Sally7216 on Saturday 01 September 07 15:11 BST (UK)
I would like to start to trace my husband's mothers' family (his mother was german) born in Holstein. I haven't got a clue how to go about this. Can anyone offer any advice please.

Many thanks.

Sally :) :)
Title: Re: German Research
Post by: Jed59 on Saturday 01 September 07 15:27 BST (UK)
you might find these sites handy

http://www.ihff.at/

www.genialogienetz.de/reg/regio.htm
 and if your german is up to speed   www.ahnenforschung.net

also www.familysearch.org/eng/Library/HHLC/frameset_fhlc.asp

hope that helps
best
jed
Title: Re: German Research
Post by: Sally7216 on Saturday 01 September 07 16:13 BST (UK)
Thanks Jed i will give that a go and no my german doesn't exist!!!

Cheers

Sally
Title: Re: German Research
Post by: Berlin-Bob on Saturday 01 September 07 16:47 BST (UK)
Hi Sally,

why not start by telling us everthing you know about the family (names, places, dates)and we'll carry on from there.

 :)

Bob
Title: Re: German Research
Post by: Sally7216 on Saturday 01 September 07 21:18 BST (UK)
Hi Berlin Bob

All i know is Herta Vogeley (Vogely or Vogeli) was born in Itzehoe, Schlezwig Holstein 1930.

Her fathers name was Waldemar Vogely or variation of the spelling. Do not know her mothers name even.

I know about Herta as she came to England in the 50's but no more on the family at all. Which isn't much for anyone to go on.

Thanks

Sally :) :)
Title: Re: German Research
Post by: loo on Sunday 02 September 07 07:34 BST (UK)
You should be able to get parish records for the place of birth, perhaps by writing to the parish, as it's not that long ago, and they should be quite legible.  German church records are better than English ones usually, have more detail.
I think you have a lot of info, and should be able to get somewhere, so don't give up!
I found mine when I never ever thought I would.  In the beginning, all I had was "possibly father was German", not even a first name.  But certs and English censuses gave me a name, a region of Germany, and a year of birth in the 1860s.  After 2 years, I found my family, and we are now in regular communication.

Here is a list of churches in the area:
http://www.kirche-itzehoe.de/kirchen.htm
Sorry it's in German.  It might help narrow it down if you knew what denomination they likely belonged to, or at least whether Catholic or Protestant, or if you could make an educated guess.

The German phone book online through www.infobel.com lists one person with the surname VOGELEY living in Itzehoe today.  We are not allowed to post the names of living persons, so you will have to look him up yourself.  There are only 218 private listings for VOGELEY in Germany, so that is not a lot to get through, relatively speaking.  There is one for VOGELY.


Title: Re: German Research
Post by: SwissGill on Sunday 02 September 07 08:51 BST (UK)
Hi

Had a look in 2 German forums but nobody seems to be looking for Vogeley.

I googled:
There was a Waldemar Vogeley in Itzehoe and in 1929 a certain Bodo Uhse made his acquaintance and wanted him to become a member of Itzehoe Town Council. Waldemar was a communist. He told Uhse that he would no longer stay around with the NS but he had great admiration for Uhse's work for the unemployed and the workers in general.

Uhse left Itzehoe for Munich in 1931 but couldn't find out what Vogeley did.

Also a variation of the name Vogeley would be Voegele (Vögele) in Germany and Voegeli (Vögeli) in Switzerland.

If you Google, you will see a number of Vogeleys in Itzehoe.

Gill


Title: Re: German Research
Post by: Sally7216 on Sunday 02 September 07 10:17 BST (UK)
Hi Gill

That would be him i know he was a communist and a football manager of some sort. Thankyou.

Also thanks to Loo

Sally
Title: Re: German Research
Post by: Sally7216 on Sunday 02 September 07 10:37 BST (UK)
My husband just said he was sure he was a socialist so perhaps he changed from communism.


Sally
Title: Re: German Research
Post by: JustinL on Tuesday 04 September 07 12:32 BST (UK)
Sally,

You should start with the civil birth certificate from the registry office (Standesamt) in Itzehoe.

Stadtverwaltung Itzehoe
Reichenstraße 23
25524 Itzehoe
Tel.:04821/603-0
Fax:04821/603-321
Email: stadtverwaltung[AT]itzehoe.de

Under German Law, only direct descendants of an individual are entitled to receive copies of birth, marriage or death certicates, so you should possible send a copy of your husband's birth certificate.

Good luck, Justin


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Title: Re: German Research
Post by: Sally7216 on Tuesday 04 September 07 12:43 BST (UK)
Thanks Justin

I didn't get anywhere with anything else. So I will give that a try. We don't speak german so hopefully they speak english. I will email first.

Best Wishes

Sally :)
Title: Re: German Research
Post by: Nathalie on Tuesday 04 September 07 15:34 BST (UK)
Maybe this Link can help you:

http://www.akvz.de/e107_plugins/akvzdb_menu/akvz.php

The members of the akvz publish the old national census-register of Schleswig-Holstein.

Use the Button *Datenbanksuche* on the left and write the names you´re looking for in Such-Option -> Name

Tell me, if you need more help  ;)

Greetings from Lower Saxony

Nathalie
Title: Re: German Research
Post by: Sally7216 on Tuesday 04 September 07 19:09 BST (UK)
Hi Nathalie

Thank you very much for your suggestion.  I will give that a try on Thursday and let you know how i get on.

Regards

Sally :) :)