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Title: 1851 and 1861 Peter Brown COMPLETED
Post by: quirk_cantwell on Tuesday 28 August 07 12:03 BST (UK)
I am looking for Peter Brown in the 1851 and 1861 census.
This is him in 1841 census living at Shortwood, Horsley
Peter Brown born 1801, Horsley Gloucestershire, Ag Labourer
Ann Brown age 40
Esther age 17
Job age 10
Joseph age 5
Mary age 7
Sarah age 14

Ann his wife died 1842 so I dont know if he remarried or if he is living with some of his kids. I hope someone can find him. He died in 1863 aged 73 which gives him an alternate birth date of 1790.
Thanks
Shauna
Title: Re: 1851 and 1861 Peter Brown
Post by: Necromancer on Tuesday 28 August 07 12:10 BST (UK)
1851 - HO107/1966; Folio: 301; Page: 7 - Horsley
NewMarket?

 
Peter Brown 50  Head Ag Lab Horsley
Eliza Brown 42  Wife Weaver Hampton
Joseph Brown 14  son Horsley

Title: Re: 1851 and 1861 Peter Brown
Post by: Necromancer on Tuesday 28 August 07 12:13 BST (UK)
Possible marriage - but 3 candidates (also an earlier Stroud marriage, but to an Elizabeth ... )

Marriages Sep 1845 
 
Bassett  Samuel   
Brinkworth  Edwin     
Brown  Peter      Stroud Vol 11 P 569   
Clayfield  Eliza      do do do
Fluck  Eliza     Stroud  do do
Harris  Eliza      Stroud  do do
Jones  Caroline     
Panting  John     
Title: Re: 1851 and 1861 Peter Brown
Post by: Necromancer on Tuesday 28 August 07 12:17 BST (UK)
1861 - RG9/1778; Folio: 33; Page: 7 - Horsley
Newmarket


 
Peter Brown WIDOWER 70  Head Labourer Horsley
Title: Re: 1851 and 1861 Peter Brown
Post by: quirk_cantwell on Tuesday 28 August 07 12:30 BST (UK)
Thanks Newf,
That is the Peter I want. It is sad that he wasnt with his new wife for long. Now to discover which Eliza she was.
Your help has been muchly appreciated.
Cheers
Shauna

PS: Have since found out it was Eliza Smart
Title: Re: 1851 and 1861 Peter Brown COMPLETED
Post by: charlieluca on Thursday 06 September 12 22:24 BST (UK)
hi did you find out any more about peter brown. he was my gggg grandad. i know he was married toanne born 1801 in the 41 cencus. by the 51 cencus he was married to eliza born 1809. his son joseph was my ancestor. so far cant get back any further
Title: Re: 1851 and 1861 Peter Brown COMPLETED
Post by: quirk_cantwell on Friday 07 September 12 05:50 BST (UK)
Hello distant cousin,
All I can tell you on Peter Brown is that he married Ann Wall 10/6/1819 at Horsley parish church. It does not appear that either Peter or Ann were bapt in Shortwood. Ann Brown was buried in Shortwood 10/4/1842 aged 43 and Peter was buried at Shortwood 18/10/1863 aged 73.
I am descended from their daughter Esther Brown who married Richard Page.

Sarah Brown, another daughter, married William Burrows  and Mary Ann Brown their youngest daughter married Leonard Clissold.

Did your Joseph go under the name of Josiah and marry an Elizabeth in Wales, son Richard Henry Brown? If not, can you tell me any details on him?

 Cheers
Shauna
Title: Re: 1851 and 1861 Peter Brown COMPLETED
Post by: charlieluca on Friday 07 September 12 22:16 BST (UK)
wow this is so cool. i have only been on it for a few days for my mum. truthfully i know no cousins from brown side at all. joseph the youngest of peters children married sarah davis. they had thomas in 1859, job in 62,john in  66 (my g g grandad), edwin in 69, celeb george in 78. i have found some of their children but get stuck on ansestry site as it does not go past 1922. if you want i can fill you in on what i know there and dates.

my great great grandad was john. he married sarah philips. they had 2 sons thomas henry who was killed young on somme in ww1. he is on monument here in coleford glos where i live. other son william married ethal strickland. they had 1 son thomas, my grandad. he married my nan dorothy barlow and had 1 daughter my mum who was susan brown till she married my dad.

my mum has always wanted to do a family tree as she knew her great grandad john was 1 of many. guess joseph brown left his dad peter and family in horsley to come down to the forest/monmouth for work. would love to get back past peter. may need a trip to horsley. was loads of browns there. wonderful to hear back from you. charlotte


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Title: Re: 1851 and 1861 Peter Brown COMPLETED
Post by: quirk_cantwell on Saturday 08 September 12 09:32 BST (UK)
Hi Charlotte,
Welcome to Rootschat.
Thanks for sharing your info with me. There is no guarantee I have it all correct with Peter but lets hope so. Your best bet would be to go to Gloucestershire records office which I think is in Gloucester from memory. It is a bit far for me as I live in Australia.
Rootschat can be extremely helpful if the volunteers have the resources so have a look at what is on offer for Gloucestershire and Wales. It definately isnt easy with a name like Brown. Although not complete this site: http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/MainMenu.aspx   is also very useful.
Good luck  :)
Cheers
Shauna.
Your Thomas Henry was the 3rd decendant of Peter Brown to die in WW1 at the Somme.
One was my great uncle Stanley Ewart Page
Title: Re: 1851 and 1861 Peter Brown COMPLETED
Post by: charlieluca on Saturday 08 September 12 17:50 BST (UK)
ok so you are a little way away. i lived in sydney for 10 years. i came back 5 years ago when my nan got sick. i do really miss it and all my friends there. i have spoken to my mum who wants to do a trip to horsley grave yard and to the glos registry, though they may be at stroud. i will look into that next week and let you know anything i can find out. i found there were 20 browns in horsley in 1841 and i think peters brother may have been a celeb. will have to do some digging to find that out.
did you emmigrate or did your parents and which part are you in.
Title: Re: 1851 and 1861 Peter Brown COMPLETED
Post by: quirk_cantwell on Saturday 08 September 12 23:13 BST (UK)
Hi Charlotte,
Although this site is called Rootschat it is not for personal chat  so I have sent you a personal message. I hope you can contact me as I have some info that might be useful  to you before you go to Horsley. It is the little green icon on the left. You may need to go to the home page and read the "how to use Rootschat" it is a bit fiddly for beginners but there is a lot of help available.
Cheers
Shauna