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Title: Grattan Stinson Hardy - COMPLETED
Post by: tilly56 on Sunday 26 August 07 15:24 BST (UK)
I am trying to find the death of Grattan Stinson Hardy - born 1861 in Kensington, London.  I have him in the UK censuses up to and including 1901, but no sign of a death!  He was the son of Julia Clifford and George Hardy. In the censuses he is either a tailor or "living on his own means".  He had two brothers, one of whom Lewis Rossi Hardy emigrated to New Zealand and died there. I cannot find Grattan in NZ.  The other brother Dudley Clifford Hardy died in Portsea.

I think he MIGHT have emmigrated to Canada - I would be very grateful if someone could do a look-up for me.

I thought that with such an odd name he would be easy to find - but no!

Many thanks for any help
Tilly
 
Title: Re: Grattan Stinson Hardy
Post by: Janice M on Sunday 26 August 07 17:48 BST (UK)
Why did you think he may have immigrated to Canada? Do you have some correspondence from him, and if so from what province?

If you have an idea where he could have been living, it would be easier. (BMD's are different for each province)

I checked the 1911 Census, Western Land Grants (1870-1930) and could not find him in either. 

I could not see him on "Find my Past", but there were 3 - G.S. Hardy's listed. 2 of them could not be him according to his birth year, but the other shows no age.


G.S. HARDY
MALE
DEPARTED: 1907
PORT OF DEPARTURE: LONDON
PORT OF ARRIVAL: BOMBAY INDIA

1911 Census - Canada
http://www.automatedgenealogy.com/

On the Freebmd site, there is a marriage in the last quarter of 1915, of a "Gordon" S. Hardy to a Veronica H.B. Rimmington, in Kensington. I thought that might be worth looking at.

Also a G.S. Hardy who died during 1st World War. (No age given)

Sorry I couldn't be of more help.

Janice

Title: Re: Grattan Stinson Hardy
Post by: Janice M on Sunday 26 August 07 18:01 BST (UK)
Found this on Documents on Line.

Description Medal card:
Hardy, G S
Bombay Volunteer Artillery 
Second Lieutenant
 
Title: Re: Grattan Stinson Hardy
Post by: tilly56 on Sunday 26 August 07 18:14 BST (UK)
Hello Janice
I thought he might have gone to Canada as on Ancestry.com there is a Grattan Hardy shown on a passenger list for Nova Scotia and then in the Immigrant Archives for Canada. As I no longer have the international subscription, I can't look any further..........
It seems such an unusual name, that I thought it could be him!
Many thanks for all your help - I'll look into  the info you have given me.
tilly
Title: Re: Grattan Stinson Hardy
Post by: Janice M on Sunday 26 August 07 18:21 BST (UK)
I just noticed that myself. Unfortunately, I don't have a subscribtion either. I will snoop around some of the provinces that have information available, and hopefully, someone with a subscription to "Ancestry" will be able to tell you.

Janice
Title: Re: Grattan Stinson Hardy
Post by: tilly56 on Sunday 26 August 07 18:25 BST (UK)
Hello again Janice
that's brilliant!  fingers crossed that someone can find him!
Many thanks again
Tilly
Title: Re: Grattan Stinson Hardy
Post by: Janice M on Sunday 26 August 07 19:04 BST (UK)
Here is what I found for Hardy's moving to Canada and arriving in Halifax. There were 2 years, 1910 & 1919. On the National Archives Canada site, you can search manifests for free, but they are not transcribed. I have given the links to the 2 ships and all of their arrivals for the 2 years. (Just follow the below links, then click on name of ship and then .. You will have to search page by page.)

Last name: Hardy (including variants) Hardie
First name(s):
Year of departure: 1919
Departure port: Liverpool
Ship name: Carmania
Destination country: Canada
Destination port: Halifax

Carmania Manifests for 1919
(free to view - but not transcribed)
http://tinyurl.com/2jdsg8


Last name: Hardy (including variants)
First name(s): 
Year of departure: 1910 to 1910 
Departure port: Liverpool
Ship name: Mongolian
Destination country: Canada
Destination port: Halifax

"Mongolian" manifests
http://tinyurl.com/25exu3

Janice
Title: Re: Grattan Stinson Hardy
Post by: Janice M on Sunday 26 August 07 19:26 BST (UK)
If you do find him on the manifests, it should give where he intended to live. If you let us know, we can then search for him in that City/Province.

Happy Hunting!  ;D :P

Janice
Title: Re: Grattan Stinson Hardy
Post by: tilly56 on Monday 27 August 07 07:38 BST (UK)
Bonjour Janice!
Again - many thanks for all your hard work!  My hunting will probably have to wait until Wednesday as I have to work today - but I'll let you know if I find him. 
Best regards
Tilly :)
Title: Re: Grattan Stinson Hardy
Post by: alicemaud on Monday 27 August 07 23:50 BST (UK)
Hello Ladies,
I have a sub to Ancestry and did a look up on those records for Grattan Hardy...sorry to say that they are not much help.

Under Canadian Immigration Records - Part 1 there are 3 records.

1882 - Ships List Arrivals at the Port of Halifax
Grattan Hardy - age 20 - arrived on the Circassian
National Archives of Canada Microfilm reel C-4511 Page 8

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1884 - Passenger List Port of Halifax
Grattan Hardy - age 25 - arrived on the Circassian
National Archives of Canada Microfilm Reel C-4512 Page 2

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1883 - Passenger List Port of Halifax
Grattan Hardy  - age adult - arrived on the Sarmatian
National Archives of Canada Microfil Reel C-4512 Page 8

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Under Passenger an Immigration Lists - 1500s to 1900s - there is 1 record and it is a repeat of the 1884 record but quoting a different source.

Source: SHEARON, JIM. "'Home Children' Research Continues. 'Home Children' Passenger List for the Year 1884." In Anglo Celtic Roots (British Family History Society of Greater Ottawa), vol. 3:4 (Fall 1997), pp. 12, 22-26.
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So it looks as though he may have travelled back and forth to Canada - maybe on business or visiting a relative.....I can find no other record of him - so I don't think he stayed in Canada...if you look at those microfilms, you may be able to find out what he was doing.

Sorry I couldn't help more    :'( :'(

Alice


Title: Re: Grattan Stinson Hardy
Post by: Janice M on Tuesday 28 August 07 04:00 BST (UK)
Great work Alice!

Tilly,
Here are the manifests for the arrivals that Alice found.

Quote
1882 - Ships List Arrivals at the Port of Halifax
Grattan Hardy - age 20 - arrived on the Circassian
National Archives of Canada Microfilm reel C-4511 Page 8

http://tinyurl.com/2scabn

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1884 - Passenger List Port of Halifax
Grattan Hardy - age 25 - arrived on the Circassian
National Archives of Canada Microfilm Reel C-4512 Page 2

http://tinyurl.com/2n3k6w

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1883 - Passenger List Port of Halifax
Grattan Hardy  - age adult - arrived on the Sarmatian
National Archives of Canada Microfil Reel C-4512 Page 8

http://tinyurl.com/2mpm4b


Janice
Title: Re: Grattan Stinson Hardy
Post by: tilly56 on Tuesday 28 August 07 08:15 BST (UK)
Hello Alice and Janice

That's great! Many thanks for all your hard work - I wonder why he kept going there and back? Could have something to do with his tailoring business............

I shall look up all the records.

I still can't find his death - but I'm working on it!!

Again - thank you very much for your help.
Tilly