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Hi All
I don't have much info to give as I have only got the names from a birth certificate.
The marriage is between Fred/Frederick Parker and /Elizabeth Tilburn.
This is the brick wall; I don't know when, where or old they'd be. All I know is, their son who is Fred Parker was born in MYTON Kingston upon HUll in 1906 December. It his his birth cert that I got the parents names from.
On the birth cert it states his dad is a Bricklayer Journeyman. I know form Fred (juniors) war papers that both his parenst had passed away before 1926 as he gives his grandma Mrs Tilburn as his next of kin.
I know this is one wall that could stay up until the release of the 1911 census.
Sorry no other info is known - I only found this much out after a nine month wait for his papers to be found and sent on to me.
I do appreciate how hard this is.
Wendy :-\
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Hi Wendy
Do you have an actual address on the birth certificate?
Is there an address for the grandmother on the WW1 papers?
Best wishes
Casalguidi
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Dear Wendy
I saw your request for help so I though I would tune into my witich's sense while sitting in my typist chair, i have left the broomstick nearby for safety. I sense you need to look in Devon and Cornwall for the name parker and fred maybe be listed under another name in another area.... hope this helps.
a fan of mary cielie, the fairy painter from Edinburgh
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You need to look for the marriage on 1837online. Since Tilburn is the less common name, look for her from 1906 backwards. If you find the right name, cross check with Fred Parker. Could be a longish job but the only way to proceed. Get the marriage certificate and you have the info to follow the trail back.
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Hi To All
In answer to your question regareding the address here it is :-
two LL's have been typed on the birth cert but could be an error
12 Paull Terrace
Wassand Street
UD
As for address on the WW1 papers for Granny
3 Brompton Mount
Cross flats
Leeds
Which is where he signed up.
I have looked on 1837onlinegoing back at least 5 years as Free bmd are not giving much away, have also tried the Yorkshire BMD's and again no luck.
Thanks to all for taking the time to read this request.
Wendy
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Wendy,
Do you have Grandma's christian name?
Perhaps we can find Elizabeths family on1891/1901, census.
Just a thought....
Good Hunting
JeannieR
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Hi JeannieR
Thanks for the reply.
Unfortunately no christian name given just says grandmother, Mrs Tilburn.
I think this may be a job for Leeds Library for the electoral register or something similar.
Wendy
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Probably a silly question, but why doesn't Yorkshire appear as one of the possible counties for searching on in the 1901 census on Ancestry.co.uk?
I could only find 1 unmarried Elizabeth Tilburn in 1901 - she's in St Pancras and there's no mother listed with the family.
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A FEW OF THE OLDER TILBURN 1901 CENSUS
John Tilburn 43 Yorks North Burton Yorks West Riding Goole
Hannah Tilburn 44 Yorks Albrough Leeds Hunslet
Elizabeth Tilburn 46 Yorkshire Knaresborough Lancaster Ashton U Lyne
Mary Tilburn 47 Yorks Boro Bridge ... ... Cook Domestic
Jane Tilburn 48 Rotherham Yorks Kingston Upon Hull Sculcoates
Harriet Tilburn 49 Yorks Shelley Yorkshire W Riding Shelley Dress Maker
Caroline Tilburn 50 Yorks Shelley Yorkshire W Riding Shelley Dress Maker
Jane Tilburn 51 Yorks Shelley York Huddersfield
Jane Tilburn 55 Yorks Lepton Yorkshire W Riding Shelley
Mary Tilburn 58 Yorks Duggleby East Riding Of Yorks Osgodby Entire Farmer & Innkeepers Wife
Louisa Tilburn 63 Ldn Southwark Kent Ramsgate Nurse Domestic
Ann Tilburn 65 Yorks Boroughbridge Yorks Leeds Retired Tailoress
Sushannah Tilburn 66 Yorks Hillton Yorkshire West Riding Kirkheaton
Mary Tilburn 68 Southwark Lond Southampton Andover
Maria Tilburn 70 Yorks Doncaster East Sussex Bexhill Living On Own Mean
William Tilburn 52 Lincoln Lincs Kingston Upon Hull Sculcoates Paint Grinder
William Tilburn 53 Yorks Bishop Wilton East Riding Of Yorks Osgodby Entire Farmer & Innkeeper
John Tilburn 55 Yorks Shelley Yorkshire W Riding Shelley Farmer
Geo Tilburn 57 Yorks Honley York Keighley Fitter Tool Works
Anthony Tilburn 60 Yorks Borough Bridge Barrow Barrow Ships Tools Fitter
Thos Tilburn 60 Yorks Leeds Yorkshire Leeds Insurance Agent
John Tilburn 64 Little Berkhampstead Herts Middlesex Tottenham General Labourer
James Tilburn 65 Suffolk Henley Ipswich St Nicholas Gardener Not Domestic
James Tilburn 68 Yorks Packlinton Yorkshire West Riding Kirkheaton Teamer On Farm
Robert Tilburn 76 Yorks Doncaster Southampton Andover
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ALL ELIZABETH TILBURN 1901 CENSUS
Elizabeth Tilburn 11 Yorks Boroughbridge Yorkshire Boroughbridge Entire
Elizabeth Tilburn 19 Yorks Ousethorpe Yorkshire Flamborough Barmaid Barman
Elizabeth Tilburn 20 Cheshire Boroughbridge Lancaster Ashton U Lyne Cotton Machine ...
Elizabeth Tilburn 36 Huddersfield Yorks Derbyshire Derby
Elizabeth Tilburn 42 Durham Barnard Castle Durham Barnard Castle
Elizabeth Tilburn 42 Scotland London Hackney
Elizabeth Tilburn 46 Yorkshire Knaresborough Lancaster Ashton U Lyne
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I HAVE FOUND A WASAND ST
65 Wassand St Y Yorkshire Holy Trinity St Barnabas West Division City Of Kingston Upon Hull Coltman
AND A PAULL ST
Paull Street Y Yorkshire Paull St Andrews Paull Holderness Div Of Yorks
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Hi Wendy,
Here all Elizabeth Tilburn's I could find in 1891. Last 2 are mother and daughter.
Can post full details if you want. ;) Jan
Tilburn, Elizabeth 35 Norths Wife Kettering Northamptonshire
Tilburn, Elizabeth Annie 32 Durham Sister Barnard Castle Durham
Tilburn, Elizth Ann 35 Knaresborough Yorkshire Wife Dukinfield Cheshire
Tilburn, Elizth Ann 10 Boroughbridge Yorkshire Daughter Dukinfield Cheshire
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Hi to All
Thank you troopers. You certainly haven't left any stone unturned.
I will of course bear all these replies in mind.
Hope fully my quest in Leeds at the library will help me get a first name on Grandmother. When and if it does I will post and let you know the out come
Wendy
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Anderson, Annie Maria 1902 March Leeds (1837-1929) West Riding of
Yorkshire 9b 673
Bellhouse, Alfred 1902 March Leeds (1837-1929) West Riding of
Yorkshire 9b 673
Covington, Thomas William G 1902 March Leeds (1837-1929) West Riding
of Yorkshire 9b 673
Tilburn, Elizabeth Jane 1902 March Leeds (1837-1929) West Riding of
Yorkshire
marriages
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Hi All
Ok. I have been in contact wiht the Leeds Local history library regarding the Electoral Registers - very helpful people.
asked them to check the 1926 as that was when Fred signed up giving that previous address - this is their findings.
1921 a George Tilburn living there - no wife showing up.
So they jumped to the 1926 as per request and found a George Edwin Tilburn living there with a Martha Theresa Tilburn they have taken a stab in the dark and made the assumption that this must be George's 2nd marriage. So took a small step back and looked on the 1918 and found a George and Hannh Tilburn together. Now going on the 1901 census there was a George and Hannah who had a son George Edwin Tilburn aged 6 born Leeds living at 98 Pemberton Tee Hunslet with older children.
So having this info I then looked on the 1891 census for the full family as there was no Elizabeth tilburn showing, there name had been transcribed as TELBURN, see below
Telburn, Ada
3 Leeds, Yorkshire Daughter Hunslet Yorkshire
Telburn, Annie
9 Boroughbridge, Yorkshire Daughter Hunslet Yorkshire
Telburn, Edith M
4 Bishop Auckland, Durham Daughter Hunslet Yorkshire
Telburn, Elizabeth
12 Boroughbridge, Yorkshire Daughter Hunslet Yorkshire
Telburn, Fanny
14 Boroughbridge, Yorkshire Daughter Hunslet Yorkshire
Telburn, Florence L
11 Boroughbridge, Yorkshire Daughter Hunslet Yorkshire
Telburn, George
39 Boroughbridge, Yorkshire Head Hunslet Yorkshire
Telburn, Hannah
33 Boroughbridge, Yorkshire Wife Hunslet Yorkshire
Now what I can't find is Elizabeth rough age 22 born where it says she was born, tried Parker incase she married at age 18 upwards but no joy unless Frederick Parker was her second husband and it wasn't stated on her son's birth cert. There is one who came close as Tilburn but she is still at home with her parents aged 20.
so your valuable help is till needed .
Wendy
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There is a Lizzie TILBURN in Leeds, 22, tailoress b.Boroughbridge on the government 1901 site:
http://www.1901census.nationalarchives.gov.uk/
Hope this helps
Casalguidi
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Hi casalguidi
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
many thanks for finding that one - yes she is the one the cheeky beggar taking on a form of her name, it is her she is living with her now married sister Fanny Rhodes.
Do you think there could be chance that she married somewhere under Lizzie and not Elizabeth even though on her sons birth cert it is her full name that she has given?
thank you again for the finshing touches to knocking this wall down I think I can just about put the bulldozer away now
Wendy
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Hi Wendy
I would assume that she would probably have given her full name for any marriage though anything is possible ..............
The 1901 confirms that she was known as Lizzie by the family - it may have been her sister (or even brother in law perhaps) that put her down on the census as Lizzie - maybe even not realising that Lizzie was short for Elizabeth.
Am so pleased that you are getting this brick wall down .................... so now it's just Mr PARKER then?
Best wishes
Casalguidi