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Some Special Interests => Occupation Interests => Topic started by: Richard Knott on Saturday 18 August 07 19:10 BST (UK)
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In 1841 George Evans, 13, was an apprentice to James Troy, 35, mathematical instrument maker; he went on to be a 'rule maker'. I have found references to 'James Troy & Co' in 22 (Little) Charlotte Street, Blackfriars, and pictures of some of their intruments.
Presumably that sort of apprenticeship was a private affair between James Troy and George's father (another George) so no record would exist. Or were mathematical instrument makers part of a bigger Livery Company?
Richard
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Mathematical Instrument Makers belonged to the Clock Makers Company.
David
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Thanks, I'll make contact.
R
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Mathematical Instrument Makers belonged to the Clock Makers Company.
David
Hi David
My ancestor, Thomas Swann, 1766-1839, was described sometimes as a Quadrant Maker, sometimes as a Mathematical Instrument Maker. At the time if his marriage, 1788 Liverpool, quadrant maker. In 1824 Math Instr. Maker of 54 Banastre St, Liverpool.
His son, William Swann was for 42 years Principal Writing Engraver to Yates and Hess, Liverpool. He died 1853. (from Liverpool Mercury, 18 March 1853)
Does anyone have advice as to whether it would be possible to trace any more info about either of them with the facts I have?
Any help gratefully received!
Jean
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The records of the Clockmakers Company cover the period for which you are looking and include apprentice bindings and freemen listings Although they are a London Guild they had many members elsewhere in the UK and abroad.
Their records are held in the Guildhall Library in London and seem to be very extensive.
David
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The records of the Clockmakers Company cover the period for which you are looking and include apprentice bindings and freemen listings Although they are a London Guild they had many members elsewhere in the UK and abroad.
Their records are held in the Guildhall Library in London and seem to be very extensive.
David
Brill! Thanks for that. I assume I would have to visit to get info?
Jean
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Afew of the livery companies have some information on-line but I don't think that the Clockmakers have any. That you means you are right and a visit is probably necessary.
David
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Mathematical Instrument Makers belonged to the Clock Makers Company.
David
Hi David
My ancestor, Thomas Swann, 1766-1839, was described sometimes as a Quadrant Maker, sometimes as a Mathematical Instrument Maker. At the time if his marriage, 1788 Liverpool, quadrant maker. In 1824 Math Instr. Maker of 54 Banastre St, Liverpool.
His son, William Swann was for 42 years Principal Writing Engraver to Yates and Hess, Liverpool. He died 1853. (from Liverpool Mercury, 18 March 1853)
Does anyone have advice as to whether it would be possible to trace any more info about either of them with the facts I have?
Any help gratefully received!
Jean
Hi Jean,
I have just come across your post regarding Thomas & William Swann...I was wandering what other information you have been able to collect on them since this post? William (the engraver) was my GGGG grandfather. His son Charles Douglas Swann married Caroline Styles...their daughter Ellen Eliza married Richard Glassey Smith and they migrated here to Australia. The only children of Thomas Swann (and Mary Hodson) that I have been able to confirm are William (1789 - 1853), John (1791 - ?), Thomas (1792 - ?), James (1794 - ?). Do you have any information on the other children? Which line do you come from??
Thanks
Sally
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I am new to this. Does anyone have info on the forebears of these two
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Hi,
Richard Glassey Smith & Ellen Eliza Swann were my GG grandparents. I have gone back a number of generations from them.
Richard Glassey Smiths parents were Father: Samuel Smith Mother: Jane Glassey. Ellen Eliza Swanns parents were Charles Douglas Swann & Caroline Styles.
Do you have an ancestry.com account? I have a tree on ancestry that shows all the information back a few generations including photos etc. Alternatively if you provide me with your email address I could send you an guest invite to the tree so that you can view my tree on ancestry.
Regards
Sally
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Thankyou, Sally, for your response. We obviously share the same GG Grandparents. I am thru their daughter Ada Smith. I have some documentation prepared by her nephew, Carl Perry, son of Lucy nee Smith.
I do not yet have an ancestry.com account. How do I get my email address to you without putting it up for public view?
Regards
Hallsmith
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Hi Hallsmith
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I've been looking for Hodsons in Liverpool, wife Mary Hodson, of Thomas Swann, the Quadrant Maker.
The only possible I found, Constantine Hodson, wife also Mary. I found out via Google that he was a ship's captain, sailing from Maryland to Liverpool on The Rosendale. Cargo not known to Captain Hodson! They did have a daughter Mary, but not sure dates would fit Mary Hodson (Swann)
Does anyone have info??
Jean
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Hi all descendants of Thomas SWANN,
Like you, I'm a descendant of his. Thomas is my 3xgt g/father; Charles Douglas my 2xgt. g/f, his dau. Jessie Alice (who married Thomas Withnall PRINCE, making me a Swan(n) Prince <g>.
Charles Douglas's youngest sister married William Shaw SIMPSON (1829-1883) of 'Simpson Bowl' fame.
I've been at this game for some 30 years now, so I have quite a bit on L'pool SWANNs but I have never been confident of the parents of Thomas SWANN (c1766-1839), though I have a photo of one of his instruments.
Happy to swap information.
Trevor
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Hi Trevor. I assume you are the same Trevor that I know? Long time no hear!
I have found more about Thomas fairly recently. Get in touch!
Jean