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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Carlow => Topic started by: cosmo on Sunday 12 August 07 06:54 BST (UK)
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I am looking for the Kearney family of Ballymoon Bagenalstown Carlow. The information I have is Patrick Kearney married Elizabeth ? he died in 1835 aged 48, she died 1861 aged 64. she is named in griffith's valuation. Their son Patrick married Pauline ? had 7 children
he died 1869 she died 1913 aged 76. I am looking for my grandmother, Clare O' Reilly who was with them at the time of the 1901 census, her relationship to head of house is given as cousin and as I am having no luck finding her family if anyone could fill the gaps and help me find some more about them I would be most grateful.
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births. JAMES KEARNEY 4-12-1867. BAGENALSTOWN,CARLOW, IRE. PARENTS PATRICK KEARNEY & PAULINA CUMMINS.
MALE KEARNEY 22-11-1868. JOHN KEARNEY 15-1 -1870. JOSEPH 23-10-1873. all the rest same as above.
can you give me any more info. on clare o' reilly.
regards mary.
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Hi very little on clare o'reilly her father was william o'reilly on census forms she is born in meath possibly navan. He is a land agent on one marriage certificate and a farmer on another, her age is 24 in 1901 census , the april before her first marriage to john wall of kilkenny, his second wife he was alot older and died in 1905. She married my grandfather in 1910 and on the census for 1911 she is 28.She died in 1960 age given 81, however a search in the records in lombard street showed on birth record also negative in records in roscommon office. A search was also made in co meath for church records but none were found. She had a sister Alice who was the witness at both her marriages and later became a nun. I found the kearney connection by following the address on the marriage certificate with John Wall looking on the 1901 census for bagnelstown i reconised the hand writing she could read and write and appears to have had a large marriage settlement. She says she is a cousin to Patrick Kearney aged 35 head of the household and son of pauline so maybe her mother was a kearney or a cummins? any ideas on finding out Thank you
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cosmo, i think this is them, now the josephine i think is clare, she may have been josephine clare but was called clare by her parents plus the time scale fits.
ALICE REILLY B. 9-4-1869. JOSEPHINE REILLY B.2-4-1871. JAMES JOSEPH B. 11-5-1875.
ALL BORN CASTLETOWN,MEATH, IRE.
PARENTS. WILLIAM REILLY & CLARE CUMMINS. all from civil reg.
REGARDS MARY.
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Hi Mary,
Thank you so much I have been looking for this for so long and just on an off chance tried rootschat -- with all else failing I did not believe she would ever be found. Have you any clue as to where Clare Cummins was from? again THANK YOU.
Cosmo
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mary,
I've been on cloud nine all day, such joy at finding Clare! How did you do it so late on a sunday night? still cannot believe it ! Have you a connection to the Cummins Family or the Kearneys ?
again a million thanks.
cosmo
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cosmo, no i'am not related,just like helping people find their ancestors.can't find anything more on clare cummins. if you find anything on clare get back to me and we'll have another try.
regards mary.
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Hi Mary
The only other information I have is from Pauline Kearney on the 1901 and 1911 census forms she states Co, Carlow as her place of birth. I will have to try for a marriage certificate for either Pauline or Clare to find out where. Pauline died in 1913 and left her possisions to her son Rev John Kearney " Including my marriage settlement of £1000.00," so even if this was the eldest child's settlement they were not poor. When I find more I will let you know.
Thanks again Cosmo
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My grandfather was Gerald Aloysius Kearney, whose parents were Patrick and Paulina Kearney of Ballymoon, Muine Bheag. Gerald was one of 6 sons, including Fr John Kearney. As I understand it, one of the sons remained at Ballymoon. Four of the sons went to Australia. One of the them was a priest, two were doctors and one 'made and lost several fortunes' on the goldfields of Western Australia. He was a publican at the time of his death. My understanding is that only one of the sons, Gerald, had children. I would be delighted if anyone knows that any of the others also had children. I have more information at the bottom of a drawer somewhere if anyone is interested.
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I have a James Kearney in my line born on 1814 in Baynelstow, co. Carlow. He went to the US sometime before 1853. He married Anna Moore on Jan. 24,1853 in Woonsocket, Rhode Island at St. Charles Borromeo Catholic Church with witnesses Hugo Carmody and Julia Keough. They eventually settled in Elroy WI. Any chance of this being the Kearneys mentioned here?
Note: spelling of places from his obit (1907). Also in obit was "info" that he had been chased from Ireland by mis-government.
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Hi I hope I can help a little and bring the Kearney research further on. As previously recorded Pauline Kearney was my Grandmother's Aunt. Pauline was a daughter of James Cummins and Alicia Cullen who was a niece of Cardinal Paul Cullen. She married Patrick Kearney and lived at Ballymoon which is just outside Bagnelstown in Co Carlow. When I went looking for my grandmother whose parents died of flu in 1892 within a day of each other she went to live with her aunt Pauline. I spoke to a local historian who told me that the Kearney family were well known in the area and that their grave stones were located in Ballyellin Cementry with Patrick marrying Pauline Cummins they must have been Catholic.
Could I suggest you write to Carlow Library to their Family History Service as the gentleman I spoke with was quite elderly at the time some 8 - 10 years ago and if he has died I know his papers were to be given in to the Library. He was able on that day to go to his files and read out to me the inscription on the relevant grave stone. As for family still on the spot the son who inherited the house and lands did not marry and died in Pauline's life time, her will grant to a son who was a priest her personal property, it was suggested that she had a daughter who married locally and that she took over the property but I have not had time to follow this line.
Cosmo
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PMK
If you still have papers in the store maybe they could throw some light on this family
looks like we are all connected.
Cosmo
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The Cummins family you are looking for were origionaly from Coolnakisha Leighlinbridge Carlow. Only relations that I am aware of are/ were Herriots of Coolnakisha. Their mother(I think)was a Cummins and their uncle was John Cummins of Coolnakisha.He died about early 1960s and had lived in Australia in his youth.May have been involved in brewery over there.
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Sorry meant to say in my last post that the above came from an elderly neighbour whom, when asked about Kearneys knew the above plus a few more bits. Told me where they lived, which families locally were/are related to them etc. Knew that some went to Australia.Unsure as to how much more he knows as tends to ramble on a bit and can get sidetracked !If you are interested can ask him again or if you like then pm me and will give you contact details(he is 80 plus so ob. no email plus has no phone but sure that can be got around)
Found him to be very certain on his facts re. local family history (eg he told me a few details re. my own family and after much digging, research and checking records he was spot on ,even on (to me!) very obscure details.
Hope the above helps and if not then no problem.
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Does he or anyone have any information on the 1800's. I am trying to find out if James Kearney born about1814 in ireland is connected. He died in1907 in Elroy, Wisconsin, USA. His obit said that he left Roscommon due to mismanagement of the government. James Kearney married in Woonsocket, RI about 1853 and moved to Chicago, Kenosha, WI before Ning up in the Elroy area.
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Sorry no.Its just Bagenalstown and its envoirns (county Carlow )that he would have knowledge of.
Does he or anyone have any information on the 1800's. I am trying to find out if James Kearney born about1814 in ireland is connected. He died in1907 in Elroy, Wisconsin, USA. His obit said that he left Roscommon due to mismanagement of the government. James Kearney married in Woonsocket, RI about 1853 and moved to Chicago, Kenosha, WI before Ning up in the Elroy area.
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His obit said Bagenestown, Carlow . It also mentioned Roscommon so I thought they were close. I will post his obit once I get home.
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His obit said Bagenestown, Carlow . It also mentioned Roscommon so I thought they were close. I will post his obit once I get home.
Well Bagenalstown Carlow would be about 100 miles by road from Roscommon.This would have been a major distance in the early 19th century ie more than half way across the country.
Know that there were a few other Kearney families from the general Bagenalstown area unrelated to the family the op is interested in.If there is a Bagenalstown connection and you pm me the details will ask him.Know that one particular family of this name lived not 500 yards from my house about 50 years ago.
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Found this whilst looking for something else .Sounds like the same family;
55 In loving memory of Mrs Pauline Kearney Ballymoon daughter of James Cummins died on the 12th September 1913. Of your charity pray for the souls of the following members of the Cummins family of Ballybar & Clonmelsh whose remains lie here. Honoria, James, Joanna, Thomas. Owen & Eliza who died between the years 1863 and 1882. An old and respected County Carlow family.
From here;
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/Tinryland_Headstones_02.htm
Also from Bagenalstown parish records;
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/Baptism_Dunleckney_17.htm
Date Child Father Mother Sponsor1 Sponsor 2
17 Mar 1833 John Kearney Patrick Kearney Elizabeth Clowry John Kearney M. Kinsella Ballyloughan
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Hi
Just wondering does this family David Dwyer ring a bell with you as Pauline Kearney is the Landholder
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Carlow/Ballymoon/Ballymoon/309338/
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai001661405/
Regards
Genseacher
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I'm a recent starter on rootschat.
A Healy woman possibly Mary Married a John Kearney. circa 1880
Their daughter Married John Shiel circa 1910 who was in Hardware/ Builders providers in Bagenalstown
Do you know which graveyard was in use for Bagnelstown circa 1900
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I will Send PM
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Do you have any dates/years for Baptisms or marriages of Grandfather
John Kearney married a ? Healy circa 1880
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I'm a recent starter on rootschat.
A Healy woman possibly Mary Married a John Kearney. circa 1880
Their daughter Married John Shiel circa 1910 who was in Hardware/ Builders providers in Bagenalstown
Do you know which graveyard was in use for Bagnelstown circa 1900
What would you like to know re. Healy/Kearney/Sheill ?
Sitting here looking out at Kearneys?Sheills farm as I speak ?
Will ask a neighbour tomorrow about them as he would know as much about them as anyone.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Carlow/Agha/Rathedon/1038528/
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Carlow/Ballymoon/Ballymoon/309337/
Both these places were owned by Sheills .One still is.
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I'm a recent starter on rootschat.
A Healy woman possibly Mary Married a John Kearney. circa 1880
Their daughter Married John Shiel circa 1910 who was in Hardware/ Builders providers in Bagenalstown
Do you know which graveyard was in use for Bagnelstown circa 1900
Either Dunleckney;
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/Dunleckney_Graves_incriptions.pdf
Or maybe the "new" cemetery on the Fenagh road(also called Dunleckney at times)