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Any details possible please about Henry Smith born in Clapham abt 1788, father of William Owen Smith born in Clapham abt 1833.
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Hi
Welcome to rootschat. Do you have any other information about this family? Other children? Census records etc? I cannot see a marriage for Henry in the Clapham area on the Sussex marriage Index - I was hoping to find a bride called Owen! I could not find them in 1841 either.
Anything else that you can add will help.
Andrea
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In 1861 William is married to Jane with a son aged 4, William Oswald. Do you have their marriage certificate? That will give an occupation for Henry. In 1851 William is a lodger in the household of Nelson Smith, also born in Clapham. I would assume he is a relation. HO107 1651 F262 p7
Andrea
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Hi again
I wonder if you are aware of the records on www.familysearch.org? That has the marriage of William Owen Smith to Jane Laggatt, 20 Sep 1856 in Clapham and it is an extracted record too. I expect you have all this.
Andrea
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Baptism...
William Owen SMITH
chr 26 Dec 1830 in Clapham
Father: Henry SMITH
Mother: Harriet
Siblings:
Harriet chr. 30 July 1815
Henry chr. 29 Nov 1818
Clara chr. 24 Feb 1822
Nelson chr. 10 Oct 1824
Mary Anne chr. 8 Feb 1829
Walter chr. 6 May 1838
Source: BIVRI citing FHL Film 1068521
1841 Claphan Sussex
HO 107/1095/4 folio 5 pp.4-5
"Clapham Village"
Henry SMITH, 53, ag lab
Harriet, 43
Mary Anne, 13
Owen, 11
Emma, 8
Walter, 2
All recorded as born in Sussex
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Strange! BIVRI records two marriages for a William Owen Smith. One of them was to Jane Laggatt (daughter of James Laggatt) on 20 Sept 1856 in Clapham. But there's an earlier one to Jane LAYST on 30 August 1856 in Patching! Coincidence?
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The only marriage for Henry Smith to a Harriet on the SMI is in Walberton 19 Oct 1813
Henry Smith of Findon to Harriet Johnson sp otp
Witnesses Edwd Burster and Jn Blackman
Dave - I would think the earlier marriage for William Owen might be a reading of the Banns and a poor transcription. It is very odd otherwise.
Andrea
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This may be Henry's baptism at Clapham:
16 August 1785, Henry, son of Richard and Sarah Smith.
But the following burial entry exists:
9 November 1804, Henry Smith. [No age recorded in my source.]
Baptisms at Clapham of possible siblings:
2 April 1775, Elizabeth, daughter of Richard and Sarah Smith.
17 October 1779, Lydia, daughter of Richard and Sarah Smith.
3 August 1783, Esther, daughter of Richard and Sarah Smith.
9 March 1787, Jane, daughter of Richard and Sarah Smith.
13 June 1790, Amy, daughter of Richard and Sarah Smith.
20 January 1793, John, son of Richard and Sarah Smith.
Possible burial of Henry's mother:
26 November 1812, Sarah Smith. [No age recorded in my source.]
By the first decade of the 19th century at least two other Smith families are baptising children at Clapham. The fathers may be sons of Richard and Sarah.
HTH,
Stovepipe
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I think we may be wasting our time on this one as mjw28 has not responded in any way.
Andrea
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Andrea
mjw28 may not be responding to your messages - but he/she has been on line since the original question was asked - so must be reading your answers.
But yes, it does look like one way traffic
Chris in 1066
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Ah well, as long as it helps...
Andrea
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I am teresa denis henry smith born 1818 mother johnson henry married jane winton henry was a private solider at long forlong sussex He is buried clapham church sussex. Jane went on to married Thomas Heryett my family line comes from Henry smith
Good luck
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Also I have a few family phones if you want me to seen them to you i still live in sussex
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Hi everyone i found Jane winton Grave I clean it up she is buried next to her dad and grand dad. in front of Thomas Heryet in Patching grave yard sussex
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You mean "Long Furlong". And try to punctuate a bit better; it can be important in getting right results - you are not "teresa denis henry smith born 1818" and it's not even clear whether "denis" is attached to you or henry or where "johnson" fits in. I'm pleased you found a relevant grave.