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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Derry (Londonderry) => Topic started by: kingskerswell on Saturday 11 August 07 19:42 BST (UK)
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I am looking for information on the above families in the very early 1800s. Anything, no matter how tenuous, will be appreciated.
Regards Morrison
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Would this fit into your family somehow?
(Edith) Alice Collins, born 8 July 1881, possibly a nurse, m. Leslie Irwin, farmer, Ballyness? Three children born in Ireland (1909-1919)- not sure if any are still alive. 1912- Leslie Irwin, Turgoland, Dungiven. I'm told the family went to Canada.
Alice Collins was a daughter of Samuel Collins, Sistrakeel then Derryork, & his 1st wife Mary Jane Gilmore.
Don't have Irwin-Collins marriage.
Have note of a Leslie Irwin born 30 Oct.1867 Dungiven dist., son of John Irwin & Jane Ramsay, but not sure if this is same person.
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Hello aghadowey,
Many thanks for your reply but unfortunately they are not the people I am looking for. According to the 1740 Religous census there were no Stewarts in the Dungiven area but by 1766 there were three, George,John and Anthony. I am particularly intersted in the first two as they are family names. The Flax Growers register lists George and William, another family name and the 1831 census lists George and Robert, yet another family name,in Gortgarn. I am trying to find a link for these names.
Regards
Morrison Stewart
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any help, JAMES ERROWIN. M. ELIZA STEWART. 6-5-1827. AT GARVAGH FIRST PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH. ERRIGAL, COLERAINE, CO. DERRY.
REGARDS MARY.
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Hi Mary,
There is a faint chance it may be relevant but my GGfather married Elizabeth Irwin who I believe came from the Dungiven area, possibly Drumaduff. There is a family tradition that the Stewarts came from the Garvagh area but I think this was in the latter half of the18th centuary. Many thanks for your interest.
Regards
Morrison Stewart
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Maybe connected?
Derry Sentinel, 22 June 1839: At her father's residence, by the Rev. William McHinch, on the 11th inst., Mr. Alexander Morrison, Derryork, to Margaret, youngest daughter of Mr. Henry Hazlett, Drumneecy.
Derry Sentinel, 15 Jan.1848: On the 4th inst., by the Rev. Joseph Gibson, in the Presbyterian Church of Scrigan, Mr. Robert Morrison, of Derryork, to Sarah, only daughter of Mr. James Morrison, of Owenbeg.
Derry Sentinel, 29 Nov.1850: On the 22nd inst., by the Rev. George Steen, A.M., of Newtownlimavady, Mr. Matthew Morrison, of Derryork, to Miss Mary McLaughlin, of Claggan.
Derry Sentinel, 29 Mar.1864: March 17, in the Bovevagh Presbyterian Church, by the Rev. Thomas Davison, A.M., Dungiven, Arthur Smith, Esq., Grove House, Leeds, to Mary, eldest daughter of Mr. Alexander Morrison, Derryork.
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can you give names, maybe first ones, it would be a help.
regards mary.
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Hi Mary,
Names I know, George Stewart (b1815) married Elizabeth Irwin (b1813)
Alexander Morrison ( b about 1815) married Margaret Haslett (b1815). These are my Ggrandparents and I am sure of them. Other names on the Stewart side are more tenuous: Family names are George, Robert, John and Isaac. Any help will be appreciated.
Regards
Morrison Stewart
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this, on www.irishgenealogy.ie this only an index, there is a fee for the info. sorry don't know the cost.
ALEXANDER MORRISON MARRIED MARGARET HAZLETT 1839.
REGARDS MARY.
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Hi Mary,
Yes I know about them, I have a record of their marriage, but many thanks anyway.
regards
Morrison Stewart
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Kingskerswell - I came across this old post & wondered if you knew anything about this Derryork family?
Married Scriggan P 28 May 1874
John O. Irwin farmer of Derryork son of John Irwin farmer to Mary Stewart, Ballyness dau of George Stewart, farmer. Witnesses - William P Anderson & Matilda Stewart.
John Oliver Irwin (c. 1849-1924) appears to have been the son of John Irwin senior (died 1895) & Mary Ann Oliver (d 1877). Family buried Old Tamlaght graveyard, Ballykelly.
I have been researching a family of Irwin/Irvine of Ballymore & Drumrane who married into Olivers of Terrydremond so wonder if there is a connection to the Irwins of Derryork who also married into Olivers (but not sure yet which Oliver family).
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Gortinanima,
Yes I know quite a bit about this family. Mary Stewart was my grandfather's sister. However John Oliver Irwin's mother was Mary Ann Anderson according to information in an old bible. The Oliver name appears in the Stewart line as well especially the descendants of Mary Stewart. Mary had a younger brother who died in a fire in 1856 and he also had Oliver as a second name. Mary Stewart's mother was also an Irwin. I have been trying to find a connection for some years.
Regards
Edit. In 1865 John J. Irwin married MATILDA Ann Oliver in Drumachose Presbyterian Church
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John Oliver Irwin's mother was Mary Ann Anderson according to information in an old bible
Tamlagh Old Graveyard.
Inscription: Erected by J. O. Irwin Derryork in memory of his uncle James Oliver who died 16th December 1874, his mother Mary Ann Irwin who died 2nd Dec 1877, his father John Irwin who died 5th June 1895; also his wife Mary Irwin who died 30th April 1916 and his six children who died young; also the above James Oliver Irwin who died 13th March 1924 aged 74 years.
Yes, I see a William P Anderson was witness to the marriage of James Oliver Irwin so he was probably a cousin.
According to the headstone above James Oliver (c.1806-1875) was an uncle to James O Irwin (so I assumed (incorrectly) his mother was an Oliver). Must have been an uncle through marriage but not a blood uncle?
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Looks like the gravestone might have the incorrect date for James Oliver- "The Will of James Oliver late of Leek County Londonderry Farmer deceased who died 16 December 1875 at Ballymacelvennan was proved at Londonderry by the oaths of the Reverend Thomas Kennedy of Templemoyle (Limavady) Presbyterian Clergyman and Isaac Irwin of Drumaduff (Limavady) Farmer both in said County the Executors." Wording of Will is on PRONI's site and 1st bequest mentions nephew John Irwin.
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Looks like the gravestone might have the incorrect date for James Oliver- "The Will of James Oliver late of Leek County Londonderry Farmer deceased who died 16 December 1875 at Ballymacelvennan was proved at Londonderry by the oaths of the Reverend Thomas Kennedy of Templemoyle (Limavady) Presbyterian Clergyman and Isaac Irwin of Drumaduff (Limavady) Farmer both in said County the Executors." Wording of Will is on PRONI's site and 1st bequest mentions nephew John Irwin.
Nice one. Don't take dates on headstones as gospel!
(Still cannot work out how they are uncle and nephew?)
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Hi,
The Isaac Irwin, executor of James Oliver, was the brother of My Great Grandmother, Elizabeth Irwin. Trying to work out Irwin relationships in the Derryork/Ballyness/Leeke townlands at that time is a nightmare!
Regards
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hello,
this is some information l have on my grandmothers family if it helpshttp://www.niarchive.org/LimavadyCa/directory/Townland_Stories.aspx?lc=1&id=4b677510-29be-4036-99ac-47f7e53518e2&directoryid=bc3ba20b-a782-4a53-8154-af22887c333a&tabid=a39d9e7a-af87-45d2-bff0-3713791367e0
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Deborah,
Many thanks for your interest. This information is from a book about the townlands in the Gelvin electoral district and I supplied some of the information for this article.
Regards
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Stewart, Irwin, Morrison, Haslett, Murrell - Dungiven area Co. Londonderry
Hi Kinkerswell - I have noticed in the names you put forward as researching there are 2 that I am familiar with. These are Irwin and Murrell.
These 2 surnames have appeared as 2nd middle names in my Dickey family who originated in Co Derry / Scotland. My great/great grandfather left Derry for the US in 1811. A descendant of his went to NZ c. 1860s/70’s. Another descendant married an Irwin in NZ. Do you have any Derry Dickey connections in your research material as yet? Look forward to your reply. Thanks and regards – Dinny.
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Dinny, sorry for the delay but I have been over in France for the weekend. However I can find no connection to the Dickey name in my tree and I have done a few look-ups and cannot connect it.
Regards
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Just wondering how these fit into your family tree-- I have an autosomal genetic link to a descendant of this Samuel Irwin -- made interesting because there is a Sarah Coughran listed in the 1831 census in the townland of Leeke, Bovevagh parish, living next to Oliver Pollock (1762- 3 Dec 1839, buried in Largy Presbyterian Church cemetery) who appears to be part of the Pollock family that sponsored my great great great grandmother Cochrane's transit to America in 1851.
Is John Oliver Irwin, son of John Irwin, Sr. related to the following Samuel???
Samuel's sister, Martha Irwin (May 1829-16 Nov 1901 - died in Philadelphia) was married to Joseph Irwin, son of James Irwin at Scrigan Presbyterian Church on 7 Sep 1852; marriage record shows both Joseph and Martha claimed Derryork as their residence in 1852.
from Biographical Annals of Lancaster County, Pennsylvania, Beers, 1903, pp. 1262-3:
SAMUEL IRWIN, a well-known and highly respected citizen of Christiana, is a self-made man, one who by his own efforts has won his way to a position of responsibility, with the great Pennsylvania railroad system.
Samuel Irwin was born in County Derry, Ireland, Nov. 9, 1833, son of John and Martha (Fleming) Irwin, farming people of County Derry, where their whole lives were passed, the father dying in 1867, in his ninety-third year. The mother passed away before her son left home, in 1848, at the age of sixty years. Of his grandparents Samuel Irwin only recalls that his paternal grandfather fell a victim of smallpox. The children born to John Irwin and wife were: William, James and John, who died in Ireland; Nancy J., who (first) married Thomas Culverson, and (second) William Hutton, and died in Philadelphia; Mary (deceased), who married Alexander Hutton: Martha, who married Joseph Irwin (no relation), and Samuel.
Samuel Irwin came from his native country to America in 1852, and located in Philadelphia, where he followed weaving for five years. He had also been a farmer in Ireland. Desiring to resume his old occupation, he removed to Lancaster county and remained for eitht years, on a farm in Sadsbury township, leaving there to enter the employ of the Pennsylvania Railroad Company, his first work being on the track. This necessitated a removal to Christiana. Soon his business ability was recognized, and he was made foreman of a track crew on the Christiana division, remaining for twenty-five years in that position, attentive to every detail of the work, and esteemed by his employers. His work included attention to signals, and so reliable was Mr. Irwin that when a serious illness attacked him he was sadly missed. Since 1895 he has had charge of the electric signals, a position of great responsibility.
Samuel Irwin was married, Feb. 4, 1854, in Philadelphia, to Matilda Seaton, and children as follows were born to this union: Martha J., who married Gus. Skillman, lives in Philadelphia, and has two children; Rachel, at home; John H., who is track foreman on the Pennsylvania railroad at Pomeroy, married Isabella Knox, and has ten children; Margaret, who married Isaac Williams, lives in Philadelphia; Samuel J. B., who married Sadie Carlin, is the shipping clerk of the Brayburn steel works; William S., who is foreman on the N. H. & H. Railroad, at West Dale, Mass., married Jean Bowland, and they have three children; Charles F., who married Amy Skillman, is a railroad foreman on the Pennsylvania line, and they have three children.
Mrs. Irwin was born in County Tyrone, Ireland, and passed away at her home Feb. 18, 1900, at the age of sixty-five years. She was buried in Atglen, Pa. She came to America when she was eighteen years old, and was a daughter of John and Matilda (McKay) Seaton, both of whom spent their days in Ireland.
The honorable positions to which Mr. Irwin has attained, and the esteem in which he is held, may be explained in one way, when it is stated that neither he nor his sons use either tobacco or drink. Their lives are hard-working and law-abiding, and all have become excellent types of American citizenship, and represent the class from which this great country has drawn her noblest and most exalted citizens.
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Thank you!
Richard Cochran
Big Rapids, Michigan