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Title: Juggins/Shucksmith Lincolnshire - Need help with Census Info
Post by: Casitaraj on Wednesday 08 August 07 09:50 BST (UK)
Kind People,

I am just embarking on researching my family history and would be greatful for help with census information to get me going.

My father's name was Dennis Juggins born in Gainsbrough.  My father Dennis had a sister Catherine, a brother known as Charles Richard Padley and a brother Sam.  Dennis was born in 1927.
His father's name (Granddad) was Charles and was also born in Gainsbourgh.  Charles partner name was Jessie Brown.

My mother's maiden name is Shucksmith and her father was Norman Shucksmith.  Norman Shucksmith was married to Eva Robinson who came from Ashby Scunthorpe.

Any help is greatly appreciated.

Casitaraj
Title: Re: Juggins/Shucksmith Lincolnshire - Need help with Census Info
Post by: Tati on Wednesday 08 August 07 10:18 BST (UK)
Hi Casitaraj,

Welcome to RootsChat  :D

I can't see the Juggins family for now - do you know when Charles was born?

Here's what I hope to be your Norman Shucksmith on the 1901 census :) Does the age sound right?

1901
RG13/3102 72 12
Broughton, Lincolnshire
Village Street

Elizabeth Shucksmith, head, wid, 37, Charwoman
Florence, dau, 13
Norman, son, 6
Annie, dau, 1 1/2
Infant, dau, under 1 month

All born Broughton.   

 :)
Title: Re: Juggins/Shucksmith Lincolnshire - Need help with Census Info
Post by: willow2670 on Wednesday 08 August 07 10:22 BST (UK)
Hi Casitaraj
Welcome to Rootschat   :)

Here is the PADLEY/BROWN marriage...

George PADLEY ~ Jessie BROWN
Year 1914 Qtr Sep Dist: Gainsbro Vol 7a pg 1769  

What year was your Mother born?

Can then try & find her parents marriage.

Sue

Title: Re: Juggins/Shucksmith Lincolnshire - Need help with Census Info
Post by: willow2670 on Wednesday 08 August 07 10:24 BST (UK)
Charles Richard Padley
Birth 9th Sep 1921
Death 1999, North Lincolnshire
Title: Re: Juggins/Shucksmith Lincolnshire - Need help with Census Info
Post by: GeoffE on Wednesday 08 August 07 10:35 BST (UK)
Birth Q2 1927
PADLEY Dennis (mother BROWN) Gainsborough 7a 1163
Title: Re: Juggins/Shucksmith Lincolnshire - Need help with Census Info
Post by: Casitaraj on Wednesday 08 August 07 10:43 BST (UK)
Hi Tati,

My granddad Charles Juggins was born 1890 and died 1971.  Unfortunately, my mother never talked much about her family - anyone wold think they had something to hide!  I am trying to find out if Norman had sisters called Florence and Annie to help confirm - I will get back to you on that.

Hi willow2670,

Mum was born 20/12/1926.

Thanks to both of you for your help.

Rita
Title: Re: Juggins/Shucksmith Lincolnshire - Need help with Census Info
Post by: Tati on Wednesday 08 August 07 10:48 BST (UK)
Well, looking at the above, I believe we have just discovered that
- either he was George Padley instead of Charles Juggins ???
- or Jessie Brown married Charles Juggins after separating from Mr Padley

Dennis was born a Padley according to Geoff's find ...  
Title: Re: Juggins/Shucksmith Lincolnshire - Need help with Census Info
Post by: Casitaraj on Wednesday 08 August 07 11:00 BST (UK)
Tati :D

I think you could be correct with the second of your assumptions and that is why Padley is basically the forgotton name in the family.

Rita
Title: Re: Juggins/Shucksmith Lincolnshire - Need help with Census Info
Post by: willow2670 on Wednesday 08 August 07 11:42 BST (UK)
Marriage
Norman SHUCKSMITH ~ Eva E ROBINSON
Year 1916 Qtr Jul-Sep Dist: Glanford B Vol 7b pg 1333

Sue
Title: Re: Juggins/Shucksmith Lincolnshire - Need help with Census Info
Post by: willow2670 on Wednesday 08 August 07 11:45 BST (UK)
poss birth
Eva E Robinson
Year 1890 Qtr Jun Dist: Glanford B Vol 7a pg 6_8

http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/

Sue
Title: Re: Juggins/Shucksmith Lincolnshire - Need help with Census Info
Post by: willow2670 on Wednesday 08 August 07 11:51 BST (UK)
This could be Eva..

1901 RG13/3106 Folio 6
George Robinson Head 37 b Bloxholme, Lincolnshire   Blast furnace man, Pig iron
Mary A Robinson Wife 33 b Butterwick, Lincolnshire
John W  Son 12 b Frodingham, Lincolnshire
Eva E Dau 10 b Frodingham
George Son 8 b Ashby, Lincolnshire
Arthur J Son 6 b Ashby
Percy Son 4 b Ashby
Reginald T Son 7mths b Ashby
1 Church Lane, Ashby, Lincolnshire
Reg Dist: Glanford Brigg

Sue
Title: Re: Juggins/Shucksmith Lincolnshire - Need help with Census Info
Post by: Casitaraj on Wednesday 08 August 07 11:54 BST (UK)
Hi Sue,

Thanks again for the help and I assume the site you included is where you get the info from.  It it most welcome.

Rita
Title: Re: Juggins/Shucksmith Lincolnshire - Need help with Census Info
Post by: willow2670 on Wednesday 08 August 07 11:58 BST (UK)
Rita

It would be wise to obtain copies of birth & marriages.

This will confirm you have the right family.

You can order them on-line at
http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/

The cost of a certificate is £7.00.

Sue
Title: Re: Juggins/Shucksmith Lincolnshire - Need help with Census Info
Post by: Casitaraj on Wednesday 08 August 07 16:56 BST (UK)
Hi All

Beginning to get places.  Does anyone by chance have a copy of the 1901 Census for Gainsborough in Lincolnshire.  I am looking for family name JUGGINS, particuarly a JAMES FREDRICK JUGGINS.

Thanking you in anticipation.

Rita


Title: Re: Juggins/Shucksmith Lincolnshire - Need help with Census Info
Post by: Tati on Wednesday 08 August 07 17:10 BST (UK)
I can't see one  ??? When was he born? I can only see a James Frederick Juggins born 1927 on BMD
Title: Re: Juggins/Shucksmith Lincolnshire - Need help with Census Info
Post by: Casitaraj on Wednesday 08 August 07 17:17 BST (UK)
Tati

Thanks.

James Fredrick Juggins (known as Fred) was probably born in 1927 in Gainsborough and died in 1999.

His Father was called William

and had Brother John plus two Sisters Marjorie and Betty.

Rita

Title: Re: Juggins/Shucksmith Lincolnshire - Need help with Census Info
Post by: Casitaraj on Wednesday 08 August 07 17:23 BST (UK)
Tati

James Fredrick Juggins was probably born 1927 in Gainsborough and passed away 1999.

His Father was William

and he had a Brother John + 2 Sisters Marjorie and Betty

Thanks

Rita
Title: Re: Juggins/Shucksmith Lincolnshire - Need help with Census Info
Post by: willow2670 on Wednesday 08 August 07 17:25 BST (UK)
Hi Rita
The latest census that can be viewed by the public
is 1901. So you wont see James Juggins family.

Sue
Title: Re: Juggins/Shucksmith Lincolnshire - Need help with Census Info
Post by: willow2670 on Wednesday 08 August 07 17:31 BST (UK)
Could this be James?

James Frederick Juggins
Birth 17 Apr 1927
Death 1998, Lincolnshire

Sue
Title: Re: Juggins/Shucksmith Lincolnshire - Need help with Census Info
Post by: willow2670 on Wednesday 08 August 07 17:34 BST (UK)
And also could this be James?

Birth
James F Juggins
Year 1927 Qtr Apr-Jun Dist: Rotherham Vol 9c pg 1070
Mothers maiden name: BLAKEY

Sue
Title: Re: Juggins/Shucksmith Lincolnshire - Need help with Census Info
Post by: Kevy g on Thursday 17 July 08 10:52 BST (UK)
Hi Rita,

I am also a Shucksmith descendant.

Your grandad Norman was the son of Mary Elizabeth Shucksmith nee Clark.

Mary was born in Broughton 3 February 1860 and died 11 July 1926.

She married my 2nd G Grandad Thomas Shucksmith (b.1854 - d.1885) of Beelsby 1 November 1876 in Broughton Parish Church.

Altogether they had five children, but unfortunately, Thomas died of Pneumonia 3 months before the birth of the fifth child in 1885.

After Thomas' death, Mary had five more children, including your Grandad Norman (b. 30 Sept 1895 in Broughton),. 
Some of the birth certs for these last five children give Thomas as the father even though he was dead.
She went on to marry George Henry Barker in Bottesford St. Peter's church 16 July 1903.  I confess that I haven't done any research on any children for this marriage (never even thought about it until now).
Mary is buried in Brumby Cemetery, Scunthorpe with her first husband Thomas.

Norman had one son Bernard (1917 - 1977) and three daughters including your mother.


I have a lot more to tell if you are interested.

Kevin
Title: Re: Juggins/Shucksmith Lincolnshire - Need help with Census Info
Post by: beady on Thursday 17 July 08 15:42 BST (UK)
Hi
There were no Juggins in Lincolnshire in 1881 census -- They were all in Bedford/Northants/Warwickshire.
Loads'an'loads of Shucksmith all over Lincs in 1881