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Title: Lost on 1841 census
Post by: ccr on Monday 30 July 07 19:43 BST (UK)
Helllllppppp!!!!!!!
I have tried the Ancestry Census index for this and the Scotlandspeople site and I cannot find these people.
Andrew Stevenson b. Airdrie 1813 farmer
Charlotte (wife) b. Muiravonside
Marion b 1835
Agnes 1833.
Andrew b 1839
I've tried soundex and different spellings but cannot trace them. Have tried in Stirling records and West Lothian. There they are in 1851 but were they abducted in 41? One member absent I can understand but all of them? Grateful for any help.
Title: Re: Lost on 1841 census
Post by: Annette7 on Monday 30 July 07 21:58 BST (UK)
Think I've found them at ancestry though it took some digging.   You will see from the spelling why you had problems.

1841 Drumbrother, Muiravonside, Stirlingshire

Andrew Stiviston 26    Farmer
Charlot Stiviston  36   
Marcy Stiviston     6
Arderw Stiviston  2
Andrw Stiviston  50    Ag Lab
Margeret Bowie   20
George McGillian  14
Hellen Randal     12

Aside from the strange spelling of Stevenson each of the 3 Andrew's is spelt differently.   Agnes must have died because I note there was a later Agnes in 1851 Census (think she was 9).

Annette
Title: Re: Lost on 1841 census
Post by: ccr on Tuesday 31 July 07 10:56 BST (UK)
Thank you so much Annette. That's one spelling I didn't try!
CCR
Title: Re: Lost on 1841 census
Post by: apanderson on Tuesday 31 July 07 15:52 BST (UK)
Hi ccr,

According to the British Vital Records: (All Muiravonside)

STEVENSON, Agnes   born 15 Aug 1841, christened 12 Sep 1841
Parents: Andrew STEVENSON and Janet NIMMO

STEVENSON, Mary, born 23 Jul 1843, christened 13 Aug 1843
Parents: Andrew STEVENSON and Charlotte NIMMO

STEVENSON, Cornelius, born 24 Apr 1845, christened 25 May 1845
Parents: Andrew STEVENSON and Charlotte NIMMO

STEVENSON, Janet, born 23 Feb 1847, christened 21 Mar 1847
Parents: Andrew STEVENSON and Charlotte NIMMO

STEVENSON, Jean, born 19 Jun 1849, christened 22 Jul 1849
Parents: Andrew STEVENSON and Charlotte NIMMO

Two familes in Muiravonside, same names, roughly at the same time . . . . . what's the chances?

Anne



Title: Re: Lost on 1841 census
Post by: apanderson on Tuesday 31 July 07 16:05 BST (UK)
I meant to say -

I think "Drumbrother' Farm found by Annette will possibly be a mis-transcription of DRUMBROIDER Farm.

If it is, then the farm is still there and is now a saddlery -  it's only five minutes along the road from Muiravonside.

I had a wee look to see if I could find any photos of it but there don't appear to be any.  Maybe if you got in touch with the owners, they might have something?

CENTRAL SADDLERY, Drumbroider Farm
Avonbridge, STIRLINGSHIRE
FK1 2HN, Scotland

Tel: 0044 1324 861229

Anne

Just discovered they have a web-site (no pictures) but there's an e-mail address:

sales@centralsaddlery.co.uk
Title: Re: Lost on 1841 census
Post by: ccr on Tuesday 31 July 07 16:26 BST (UK)
In reply to both your posts  Anne :The "2" families are one and the same.
Charlotte Nimmo and Andrew Stevenson were my great great grandparents. Their daughter Janet was my great grandmother. The family later moved to Whiterigg farm. (is that still there ?)
Charlotte drowned in a barrel of water in her seventies, her son Andrew hanged himself in a barn in 1890s.
Janet married John Bryce and they eventually lived in South Brae Maddiston.
I used to visit Maddiston and Laurieston every summer and stay with my grandmother. I wish now that I had asked more questions, but then don't we all!
Many thanks for your help.
I will certainly contact the farm and see if they have any photos, what a brill idea!
What are British Vital Records Anne?
CCR
Title: Re: Lost on 1841 census
Post by: apanderson on Tuesday 31 July 07 19:55 BST (UK)
British Vital Records is a CD version of IGI. You can buy the set from LDS for around twenty pounds (last time I looked anyway!)

I Googled Whiterigg Farm and found:

http://www.touchlocal.com/nat/c-764-t-8883-Mixed+Farming-Falkirk

R Taylor , Whiterigg Farm, Maddiston, FALKIRK, Stirlingshire, FK2 0BX

It seems it still there too.

It's always the same, it's not until you venture into the realms of family or local history that you wish you'd asked questions of your elders. Either that, or it's just a sign of getting old!!

Anne.

P.S. Was it you I sent photos of Bryce stone in Muiravonside a wee while ago?
Title: Re: Lost on 1841 census
Post by: ccr on Tuesday 31 July 07 23:29 BST (UK)
yes it was me. I came up there in February and had a little wander around. found some other   ancestors  in Polmont  churchyard and of course my grandmother and Bryce and Donaldson great grandparents in Muiravonside cemetery.
I'm going to contact Falkirk and see if they can tell me where the Stevensons are.
I hope I thanked you for the photos, but thanks again Anne.
CCR
Title: Re: Lost on 1841 census
Post by: bairnj on Monday 14 July 08 19:20 BST (UK)
Hi CRR

I have been having a wee look through my husbands family tree and it turns out that Andrew Stevenson and Charlotte Nimmo are his GGGgrandparents.

I haven't done an awful lot on his side of the family, but have been in contact with two other descendents and have a good bit of information on the Nimmo side of things.

Andrew and Charlottes daughter Jean (Jane) was married to an Andrew Baird, their son John Baird married Elizabeth McNab and their son Thomas Baird married Janet Allardice, their daughter Elizabeth Baird is my mother in law.

Our family  live in the Whitecross area, although we live in Falkirk.

Would be great to hear from you.

Gillian
Title: Re: Lost on 1841 census
Post by: kbryce27 on Saturday 16 May 09 05:52 BST (UK)
Hi CCR,

I am working on a family tree of the Muiravonside Bryces and see here that you are of the Janet Stevenson John Bell Bryce line. That is a family group that I do not have much information on - essentially 11 children, years of birth and some dates of death. Very little otherwise. I do have more information on other parts of the family, not sure how much would be new to you. Would love to compare notes. Drop me a line if you like.

Thanks
Katherine
Title: Re: Lost on 1841 census
Post by: andrew shanks on Saturday 30 May 09 13:21 BST (UK)
Charlotte Nimmo b17 Jan 1805 at Muiravonside is my 3rd cousin

Is this the same Charlotte Nimmo that married Andrew Stevenson?

 :)
Title: Re: Lost on 1841 census
Post by: bairnj on Sunday 31 May 09 22:17 BST (UK)
Hi there,

The Charlotte Nimmo I have that married Andrew Stevenson was born in 1805.

I haven;t been doing a lot of family research into this side as my mother in law passed away last October, so it's been quite hard to get into it.

Would be great to hear from you.

**CCR did I send you the photographs of the Nimmo memorials?**
Title: Re: Lost on 1841 census
Post by: ccr on Monday 10 August 15 16:28 BST (UK)
Hi Katherine, just got back to roots chat after a delay, (sidetrack researching for a friend ). Re your post about the  Bryce Stevenson connection I would love to see what you have in the way of info. Rehards Ccr
Title: Re: Lost on 1841 census
Post by: Debra Bouwer on Sunday 30 December 18 14:55 GMT (UK)
Hello

I just read this poist with interest. When my Mom sailed back to Scotland in 1947 they have Drumbroider farm listed as their place to stay. I know her Aunt Susan and William Owen had a farm out there? It would be interesting to hear if anyone knows of a connection?
Title: Re: Lost on 1841 census
Post by: Forfarian on Thursday 03 January 19 16:52 GMT (UK)
Drumbroider http://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NS9274