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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => London & Middlesex Lookup Requests => London and Middlesex => England => London & Middlesex Completed Lookup Requests => Topic started by: Mrs Food on Friday 27 July 07 19:06 BST (UK)
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Hi
Can anyone tell me how to search for the Royal family in the censuses?
Found them ok in 1841 & 1851, but cannot find them in any of the others. Have tried using various search names & words but not come up with them!
Can anyone help?
Many thanks
Mrs F
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I think QV shows up as Empress of India in a later census.
Try Googling, I have seen a site that IDs all the census years with some narrative thrown in.
Now heres your challenge - find Victoria and Albert's Civil Marriage GRO entry :D
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Never looked for this but she was baptised Alexandrine Victoria :) and it was 10th Feb 1840 ::)
Gadget
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sigh - I know that :D but I've never found the GRO entry, am assured it was recorded ???
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I spect that you've seen this:
http://www.btinternet.com/~sbishop100/marreg.jpg The church record entry
I've never really bothered about this before ::) ::) ::)
Gadget
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No, never seen that actual doc, but have seen articles about the wedding - a neighbour was interested last year, so out of idle curiousity I looked for the GRO info, found it was considered to come under the rules of such, but could never locate ???
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Hi all :)
Mrs Food - the 1861 census reference is RG9/653 48 1 :D
(I can find Napoleon III, occupation Emperor of the French at Chiselhurst Kent in 1871 but can't see the Queen!)
1881: "The Queen"
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1881&indiv=try&h=426775
RG11/1325 98 1
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1871 - RG10/1302; Folio: 103; Page: 1 - Windsor Castle
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Many thanks for all your replies, very helpful.
Cheers
Mrs F
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Well, have you found the marriage yet ?
;D
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I never know what surnames to use in any of the searches, did they actually have official surnames?? Saxe-Coburg-Gotha etc??? I know they changed at some point to a more english sounding surname but am still struggling to find anything!!
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Look at the finds above for 1861 - 1881 and you'll see that surnames are not used ;)
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Well, have you found the marriage yet ?
Not me! :P :P
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What a giggle ;D
Nice to see them recorded in censuses just like the Ag Labs etc so many of us own to!
Where was Mrs Alice Keppel (ancestor of Mrs Parker Bowles) in 1901? And if she (mistress of) was actually with (by then) King Edward at midnight on the census date, would it have shown up on the census anyway!
When more recent censuses become public, what about Violet Trefusis (daughter of Alice) and her lover Vita Sackville-West? And much later might Prince Charles & Mrs PB show up together! What a circus - and so many other possibilities. No doubt things will have been managed very carefully to avoid any such solecisms! I do recall seeing John Brown in widow Queen Vic's household but just labelled as a servant ...
JAP
PS: People really are strange. I recall seeing parish registers when finding my own ancestors and being amazed that births/baptisms of "aristos" or people who were regarded as "important" were writ large - very large, sometimes even taking up a whole page! Doff your caps and tug your forelocks, guys!
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Then surely our ag lab/miners were just as careful about where they were staying on census night :P ;D
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Hi Tati,
Perhaps so ;)
But would the ag labs really distinguish between where they were staying and where they were recorded ??? And perhaps that's one reason why we find duplicate appearances :o
And perhaps even the 'royals' completing the census schedules were nowhere near as politically aware (or dissembling) as we all are now ;D
As for any of them having any conscious notion that nosy parkers like us would be studying their census returns 150 years plus into the future ...
One wonders whether they would have been delighted or appalled ::)
Looking forward to some interesting discoveries (I know there have been previous RC threads re famous people on censuses but this one seems to be restricted to 'royals').
JAP
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what a huge household in 1881 ;D (cannot view the others, as they are not Free)
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Jeane Baptiste -
i thought they had John the Baptist staying with them in 1881 that would have been some feat!
just looking through the household/ maids i wonder how they were 'picked', i geuss the ones from Isle of Wight came from Osborne House back to Windsor Castle and the Scottish ones from Balmoral? did they have Sandringham in those days Marie Downing comes from Norfolk.
Mr (John) Brown is there - of course
it would be interesting to follow a couple of them
it would also be interesting to do an address search (in 1881 or 1901) for other Royal residences