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Hi Guys
I'm looking for Catherine Rush b abt 1837 widow Uppingham with daughter Louisa born Uppingham. Catherine was formerly a Stretton.
Thanks
Paul
Here she is in 1841
1841
HO 107/896/10/46/26-27
Uppingham
North Street
Thomas Stretton 40 Ag Lab Y
Sarah 40 Y
Caroline 13 Y
Robert 10 Y
John 8 Y
George 7 Y
Catherine 4 Y
Louisa 1 Y
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Hi Paul :D
1861
RG9/2311 78 8
Clipsham, Rutland
Catherine Rush, visitor, wid, 24, Laundress, b. Rutland Uppingham
visiting a large family named Medwell.
Uppingham, Rutland
RG9/2308 3 3
High Street
Thomas Stretton, head, 63, Ag lab, b. Uppingham
Sarah, wife, 62, b. Barrowden
Louisa, dau, 21, Laundress, b. Uppingham
Catherine Rush, dau, wid, 24, Laundress, b. do.
Louisa Rush, granddau, 3, b. do.
Aaaah, ubiquity, my dream 8)
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Hi Tati
Just out of interest who was the first Catherine? Thanks for the look up.
Paul
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My guess: the same person enumerated twice ;)
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Hello, Paul
1861 census
RG9/2311 folio 78 page 7 & 8
Clipston Rutland
head of house
Henry Medwell Stone Mason b Northampton
visitor
Catharine Rush W age 24 Laundress b Uppingham
I also found the Thomas Stretton entry, confusing. !!!
Birth
Louis Rush
Dec ¼ 1857 Uppimgham 7a 229
1871 census
RG10/3302 folio 4 page 2
leicester Rd., Uppingham
Charles Peach age 24 gardener b Leics Stockerton
Catharine wife age 30 Laundress b Uppingham
George William son age 2 b diito
Louisa Rush dau in law age 12 b ditto
(this is the accepted term for Step dau )
Marriage
Charles Peach = Catharine Rush
Sept. 1867 Uppingham 7a 475
Also looked for a Stretton = Rush marriage with no sucess.
Hope thia helps
Meliora
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Hi Meliora
Thanks for the help!!
I'm also struggling with the Rush Stretton marriage. From a birth certificate of Louisa it states the Father as Alfred Rush.
Cheers
Paul
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The mystery deepens.
We have the two 1861 census entries for a Catharine Rush, one with a dau, Louisa, whose father is stated to be Alfred. As both the 2 Catharine's are widows we need a death for an Alfred Rush , 1857 (birthof Louisa) to Apr. 1861.
I searched the complete BMDs for all with the surname Rush for a death for Alfred, looking at the district for Rutland vol 7a. ( adjoing districts, Billsdon,Kettering,Market Harbourer,Oakham,Oundle & Stamford). The only one for Alfred was>>
Sept. ¼ 1858 Mile End 1c 348
I have my doublts that this is the correct one, as there was a marriage for an Alfred Rush in Shorditch.
I also searched the complete BMDs for a marriage for a Catharine Stretton, 1854 -1857 ( oneof her birth dates for the 1861 census put her birth c 1837). I found this one, thinkng, hooray, found it, right name, right distict, right date.
Marriage
Catharine Stretton
Mar ¼ 1857 Oakham 7a 327
BUT, on checking this in the freeBMDs found that the choice of spouse's named was, George Green & William Abbott. No Alfred Rush.
I then checcked the 1861 census for a Catharine Green with a spouse George & found this.
RG9/2307 folio 58 page 8
Market Overton Rutland
George Green age 37 Maltster b Market Overton
Catharine wife age 27 b Rutland Greetham
Thomas son age 3 b Market Overton
Henry Stretton, brother, age 22 b Greetham.
So, I will risk a guess here that this Catharine is perhaps a cousin to the one shown as a dau of Thomas Stretton. It means having a search for the births or bapts of these two Catharines.
There is no birth registered in the complete BMDs or a Catharine Stretton, 1837- 1841.
Just found this, souce IGI
Catharine Stretton
bapt 1834 Greetham, Rutland
father John Stretton mother Mary Tomblin
Ah, well, back to the drawing board, as they say.
Meliora
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Census info.
1841 censys
HO107/894 bk 6 folio 14 page 22
Greetham Rutland
John Stretton age 50 Ag Lab born in county Y
Mary age 40 b ditto
Sarah age 12 b ditto
John age 10 b ditto
Catharine age 8 b ditto
Thomas age 6 b ditto
Henry age 3 b ditto
1841 census
HO107/896 bk 10 folios 46 & 7 pages 28 & 9
North St. Uppingham Rutland
Thomas Stretton, age 40 Ag Lab born in county Y
Sarah age 40 b ditto
Caroline age 13 b ditto
Robert age 10 b ditto
John age 8 b ditto
George age 7 b ditto
Catharine age 4 b ditto
Louisa age 1 b ditto
1851 census
HO107/2093 folio 96 page 11
High St Uppingham Rutland
Thomas Stretton age 54 Lab. b Uppingham
Sarah wife age 54 b Bernaden
Robert son age 18 b Uppingham
George son age 16 b ditto
Catharine dau age 14 b ditto
Louisa dau age 11 b ditto
Hope these help
Meliora
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Hi Meliora
I'm blown away by all the help you have provided. Thank you very much.
I'm also very confused by the death of Alfred Rush. I have asked a friend who has the Uppingham fiche to check for a burial. I wonder if his death was ever registered?
Thank you
Paul
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Hello, Paul,
I have always understood that a burial could not take place without a death cert.
I had wondered whether Alfred had been a second given name & he had dropped the first name, but of all the Rush lookups found none with an Aflred for first or second. I also thought about a war death, but could not think, off hand, of any conflict taking place 1857-'61. The Crimean war ended in 1856, I suppose he could have been a casualty who died later but there should be a record somewhere for him.
I have searched the National Burial Index but there was nothing for him in any county.
I had been looking for Alfred in Rutland, not found anything useful so broadened the search for all counties but only found there were several Alfred's in Suffolk, but how to tell who was the right one, I just don't know.
Sorry to be at a deadend on Alfred.
Meliora
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Hello Paul
It' a long time since you were looking for a marriage of Catherine Stretton and Alfred Rush, but I'm wondering if you have found anything in the meantime.
Louise Rush, daughter of Catherine and Alfred, later became the mother of Alfred Peach Rush I believe. That birth was registered in 1888.
Can you help?
Regards
Kathleen Newman
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HI Kathleen
I'm still stuck on this one unless you've new info?
Regards
Paul
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If you're still following this then I have found x2 Louisa Rush baptisms. So one child must've have died.
Name: Louisa Rush
Event Type: Baptism
Event Date: 28 Nov 1857
Event Place: Uppingham, Rutland, England, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original): Uppingham, Rutland, England
Religion: Anglican
Father's Name: Alfred
Mother's Name: Catherine
Page Number: 27
Name: Louisa Rush
Event Type: Baptism
Event Date: 10 Jul 1859
Event Place: Uppingham, Rutland, England, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original): Uppingham, Rutland, England
Religion: Anglican
Father's Name: Alfred
Mother's Name: Catharine
Page Number: 39
Just another lead?